Subject: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:24 PM So I was about to turn off the evening news tonight on MSNBC when they came up with a story about sex in folks over 57 years old... No, not gender here but sex... Folks 57 to 75, according to0 the survey are having sex 2 to 3 times a week... Hmmmmmmm??? Okay if you take the 75 year olders who might be once a weekers and average them in and still come up with 2 to 3 times a week then all I can say is either these folks all lied or I gotta get on the ball (no puun intended)... Nevermind this senseless thread unless you have any comments that ain't either lies, dreams, hallucinations or wishfull thinking... Awww, nevermind that, too... Lies, dreams, hallucinations and wishfull thing is perfectly welcome... Hey, this is Mudcat, the home of lies, dreams, hallucinations and wishfull thinkin', ain't it??? Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:31 PM With or without a partner? |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: TheSnail Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:39 PM Everything's fine; just takes a bit longer. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Alba Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:48 PM Well Bobert I don't know about NBC's poll... A good friend called me last week and we played catch up. She is always really funny and talks about everything literally! This time round was no exception and she made a remark about her sex life (she is 83 and her husband is 86) She said their sex life was kind of like - Social Security Sex. You know the kind I mean she says... you get a little each month but not enough to live on! She is a fun Lady. Best Wishes Jude |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: frogprince Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:54 PM A few years ago, in response to some darn thing a younger co-worker said, I gave her an honest broad estimate of how many time my wife and I had made love. She started calculating, and after a bit announced that that came to 3.4 times per week; which was actually about right, along about then. What I later regretted was, I didn't think to say, "And I'm getting darn sick of all those times that we get four-tenths of the way, and my wife makes me stop!" |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:57 PM Gol danged, F-prince... That's a real bummer.... Why start??? |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: frogprince Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:03 PM But I didn't know which times she'd quit on me... |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:05 PM So, in terms of an age-inhibited sex life, this poll sets the starting age at 57, which I guess implies that those of us over 57 are doomed to near-celibacy. Can you move that age up a bit, Bobert? 83 might be a good cutoff.... -Joe- |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: gnu Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:17 PM Hey... celibacy ain't so bad, once you get not use to it. Nigh eleven years for me and I don't mind. Sure, I'd like to "find love" but, not at the price I paid. Screw that. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:23 PM I'll get to work on it, Joe.... |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: katlaughing Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:18 PM That's not the way I read, Joe. The way I read it, I can't wait to get to 57 and liven things up a bit!**bg** |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bert Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:41 PM kat you're BAAAAD! |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: katlaughing Date: 23 Aug 07 - 12:25 AM LOL! In that case, I must be goooood!:-) |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Ebbie Date: 23 Aug 07 - 02:45 AM This comment is apparently one of those things a daughter shouldn't say - or think - but what the heck, I'm almost 72 years old. I can say whatever I wish, on any subject I wish. My father married again four years after my mother died. He and his new wife, thirteen years younger than he, were very happy together for four years before he died. His wife made it clear to us that they had an active sex life; she said he was "amazing". When they got married, he was 89 and she was 76. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 23 Aug 07 - 03:30 AM Some people find Blackpool Illuminations amazing. As Bill Bryden said, Amazing! if you've never actually seen a light bulb before..... |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: GUEST,PMB Date: 23 Aug 07 - 04:09 AM I wonder if people always tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but in these surveys. I remember a survey of teenage sex a few years ago, in which it was found that boys have sex all the time, girls practically never. The obvious conclusion was that there are some very busy young ladies out there. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Folkiedave Date: 23 Aug 07 - 04:16 AM All I know is it takes me all night to do what I used to do all night. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Ebbie Date: 23 Aug 07 - 03:47 PM "I remember a survey of teenage sex a few years ago, in which it was found that boys have sex all the time, girls practically never. The obvious conclusion was that there are some very busy young ladies out there." Guest/PMB You may have that almost right. There used to be far fewer girls who engaged in teenage sex than now. On the other hand, which one of the sexes do you think was more likely to lie about it? Today we often hear men confess that in their younger days they let their peers believe they were sexually active long before they actually were. *g* |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: gnu Date: 23 Aug 07 - 03:57 PM Yup. Young lads boast about their prowess and "activities" when there isn't any. Stunned, not studs. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: John MacKenzie Date: 23 Aug 07 - 04:16 PM When asked why he was pulling a piece of string along the road, the Hippie responded by saying "You should have seen it when tried to push it man!" My sex life is going that way, the pulling is OK, but it doesn't like being pushed. Then again who does? Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: artbrooks Date: 23 Aug 07 - 05:21 PM I am (almost) 61, and had been experiencing a lack of interest over a period of several years. Well, about a year ago, I was diagnosed with a pituitary tumor (a benign tumor). These things typically increase the production of a hormone called prolactin which, in males, suppresses the production of testosterone and decreases libido. It is treated easily with medication, and I am going in soon for an MRI to see if the tumor is gone. Without getting into any of the gory details about whether or not my libido has improved (I'm not dragging the average down anymore), I'd suggest that any of you guys who have been experiencing a lack of interest go and get your prolactin levels checked. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 07 - 05:47 PM I heard the report, Bobert....and it was 2-3 times a MONTH. Time to revise all those opinions, folks..*grin* |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Rog Peek Date: 23 Aug 07 - 05:53 PM Couple in their eighties have just finished lunch, when the old fella gets up and starts putting on his coat. "Where are you going?" his wife enquires. "I'm going to the doctor for some of that Viagra" he says At that, the old lady starts to put her coat on. "Where are you going?" he said "To the doctor?" she replied "What are you going to the doctor for?" "Well" she said "If you're going to get that rusty ol' thing out again, I'm going to get a tetnus shot!" |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 07 - 05:54 PM Old Fred, who is 72, goes to his doctor with the complaint that he can't perform as often as he'd like. "Well, Fred", says the doc, "you ARE 72. How often do you do it?" "Oh, maybe 3-4 times a month....but my neighbor is 80, and he says he makes love with his wife twice a week!" "Well, Fred", replies the doc. "Can't you say that, too?" |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Leadfingers Date: 23 Aug 07 - 07:24 PM 85 year old man goes to his doctor and asks if the doctor can lower his sex drive . The doctor says "Lower it ? at 85 its all in your mind !" Precisely says the old guy - Can you lower it a couple of feet ? |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 07 - 07:34 PM 70 year old man comes home with a bottle of Viagra... Wife finds it and dumps it down the well... Couldn't get the pump handle down for 3 days... Ba-doom... Nevrmind... |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: DougR Date: 23 Aug 07 - 08:55 PM Don't count us old folks out. Just ask Kendall. Heck, before he got married he was enamored of Llamas and he's older than 57. DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 07 - 09:06 PM So Dougie, my ol' pal, how you and Mrs. doin'??? Ya keepin' up the average, I hope... Don't need no slackers, ya' know... B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: katlaughing Date: 23 Aug 07 - 09:20 PM Ebbie that's great about your dad! |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Pauline L Date: 24 Aug 07 - 04:00 AM Leadfingers, I really like your contribution. |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: John MacKenzie Date: 24 Aug 07 - 05:16 AM At 85 years of age, Wally married Lou Anne, a lovely 25 year old. Since her new husband is so old, Lou Anne decides that after their wedding she and Wally should have separate bedrooms, because she is concerned that her new but aged husband may over-exert himself if they spend the entire night together. After the wedding festivities Lou Anne prepares herself for bed and the expected "knock" on the door. Sure enough the knock comes, the door opens and there is Wally, her 85 year old groom, ready for action. They unite as one. All goes well, Wally takes leave of his bride, and she prepares to go to sleep. After a few minutes, Lou Anne hears another knock on her bedroom door, and it's Wally. Again he is ready for more "action". Somewhat surprised, Lou Anne consents for more coupling. When the newlyweds are done, Wally kisses his bride, bids her a fond goodnight and leaves. She is set to go to sleep again, but, aha you guessed it, Wally is back again, rapping on the door, and is as fresh as a 25-year-old, ready for more "action". And, once again they enjoy each other. But as Wally gets set to leave again, his young bride says to him, "I am thoroughly impressed that at your age you can perform so well and so often. I have been with guys less than a third of your age who were only good once. You are truly a great lover, Wally." Wally, somewhat embarrassed, turns to Lou Anne and says: "You mean I was here already?" The moral of the story: Senior moments have their advantages. {Don't ask me who I thought of when I first heard this joke!} Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: DougR Date: 24 Aug 07 - 04:03 PM Bobert: I do not delude myself that I can do things as well as I could as a 25 year old; things like picking cotton, digging post holes, bailing hay, etc. But that's okay. I decided after I retired and got myself a bride eight years my junion that I would give up all those things anyway, so I could concentrate on the important things. :>) DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: heric Date: 24 Aug 07 - 04:40 PM George Burns had a joke about trying to insert an oyster into a slot machine. (Sorry, but he said it.) |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Megan L Date: 24 Aug 07 - 05:07 PM ach weel as my granny said when the fairmer boasted aboot the young bull he had just bought. They watched they youngster run eagerly to every cow in the field while the old bull sauntered along picking one of the cows here and there. When the calves were born most closely resembled the old bull."Aye" says me gran "Age and experience aye win oot ower hot air an water." Meg who slinks of to a quiet corner to blush |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: GUEST, Topsie Date: 24 Aug 07 - 05:47 PM After a French wedding the groom and his father and grandfather are having a nightcap in the bar before retiring, and bragging about their coming performance in bed. They agree that next morning they will let the others know how well they performed by how many times they say 'Bonjour' when they come down to breakfast next morning. At breakfast, the groom arrives and addresses the room: 'Bonjour, Bonjour, Bonjour, Bonjour, Bonjour...'. Next, his father comes in - 'Bonjour. Bonjour'. Finally the grandfather comes in, smiles at the room full of friends and relatives and says 'Bon appetit.' |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Bobert Date: 24 Aug 07 - 06:22 PM Dougie, When I grow up I want to be jus' like you... I'm old and able to buzz all night long Yeah, I'm old and able to buzz all night long If ya' hear me buzzin', baby You know there's some stingin' goin' on... B;) |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Aug 07 - 06:48 PM So, Giok, who were you thinking of??? One headline called us Old -Joe- |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: katlaughing Date: 25 Aug 07 - 07:47 PM Here's a bit more about the study: Elderly Staying Sexually Active By Rob Stein Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, August 23, 2007; Page A01 Many people maintain rich, active sex lives well into their 80s, according to the first detailed examination of sexuality among older Americans. The nationally representative survey of more than 3,000 U.S. adults ages 57 to 85 found that more than half to three-quarters of those questioned remain sexually active, with a significant proportion engaging in frequent and varied sexual behavior. Sexual problems do increase with age, and the rate of sexual activity fades somewhat, the survey found. But interest in sex remains high and the frequency remains surprisingly stable among the physically able who are lucky enough to still have partners. "There's a popular perception that older people aren't as interested in sex as younger people," said Stacy Tessler Lindau of the University of Chicago, who led the study, being published today in the New England Journal of Medicine. "Our study shows that's simply not true. Older people value sexuality as an important part of life." "This study paints a portrait of this aspect of older Americans' lives that suggests a previously uncharacterized vitality and interest in sexuality," agreed Georgeanne E. Patmios of the National Institute on Aging, the primary funder of the study. "This has not perhaps been fully appreciated." The survey found a close link between sex and health, with healthier people reporting the highest rates of sexual activity. In addition to supporting the well-known idea that illness can interfere with sex, that finding suggests that a healthy sex life may itself help keep people vibrant, the researchers said. "Individuals who remain sexually active gain the benefit of the physical exercise that comes with sex," Lindau said. "It's also possible the hormones -- the endorphins released by orgasms -- give a general sense of well-being that could be beneficial. The psychological benefits of being loved and cared for may also trickle over to physical health." Despite the intense focus on sex in popular culture, political sensitivities have severely limited funding for reliable, detailed studies of sexual activity among Americans of any age. Smaller, more limited studies have provided glimpses into the sex lives of the elderly, but no one had previously attempted an in-depth, nationally representative survey among this rapidly growing segment of the population. "We just don't know very much about sexuality in the later years," said Robert N. Butler, president of the International Longevity Center in New York, a nonprofit think tank. "There's been a tremendous amount of resistance to such studies. That's what makes this so terrific." For the study, researchers conducted face-to-face interviews with a randomly selected sample of 3,005 Americans from July 2005 to March 2006. "We found people to be grateful to have an opportunity to discuss these issues," said Lindau, noting that researchers achieved an unusually high 75 percent response rate from those they approached. "The topics we were asking about resonated with people. Many said they had never had a chance to talk to anyone about these issues, not even a spouse or their physicians." About 28 percent of men and about 14 percent of women said sex was very important, and about three-quarters of those with partners reported being sexually active, which is about equivalent to what previous research had found for people in their 40s and 50s. Being sexually active was defined as having had mutually voluntary sexual contact with another person within the past 12 months. "Our findings indicate that when it comes to sexual activity, older people are really just younger people later in life," Lindau said "There's no reason to believe they give up the basic human desire for love and intimacy and the kind of pleasure that comes from intimate relationships." The proportion of those having sex did decline somewhat with age. By ages 75 to 85, it was down to 39 percent of men and 17 percent of women. Among those who remained sexually active, frequency also fell somewhat with age. But even among the oldest age group, 54 percent of those who were sexually active reported having sex at least two to three times per month and 23 percent reported having sex once a week or more. "This just shows that the light doesn't go out. The flame doesn't go out," said Todd P. Semla, president of the American Geriatrics Society. The most common sexual activity was vaginal intercourse. But the survey found a significant proportion reported engaging in oral sex, both giving and receiving, as well as masturbation. Mirroring their younger counterparts, elderly men reported more sexual activity than women, but researchers said that was largely because women live longer than men, giving the surviving men more opportunities to have sex than women. "This doesn't necessarily mean that women aren't necessarily interested in intimacy and sexuality," Lindau said. "A substantial number of women say the reason they are not having sex is they don't have a partner." Among those who remained sexually active, nearly half reported at least one sexual problem. Forty-three percent of women reported a lack of sexual desire, 39 percent of women reported vaginal dryness, and 37 percent of men reported problems achieving an erection. Given the availability of new medical treatments such as Viagra, those findings indicate that the elderly would benefit from more frank and open discussions about sex with their doctors. "This should increase awareness among physicians to pay more attention to this," said John E. Morley, director of geriatrics at St. Louis University. "This is extraordinarily important, and we need to pay more attention to it." |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 25 Aug 07 - 08:02 PM its the tobacco that counts..... |
Subject: RE: BS: NBC Poll on Senior's Sex... From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 26 Aug 07 - 01:06 AM errrmm.. i'll be 50 next year.. so that gives me about 8 years to be one of those statistics... so is this a warning or a challenge..!!??? btw.. diet.. exercise.. healthy lifestyle.. yeah.. do most of all that.. guess i live down the gym these days.. ok.. i am in good shape for a bloke my age.. and certainly better condition than probably most guys half my age.. not boasting.. just being cautiously objective.. thing is though.. its not my libido thats slowing down.. [the dirty cruel bastard wakes me up most nights to bother the mrs.. fortunately (???) she's at that funny age to enjoy and encourage those sort of night-time raids..!!!??] ..but its me that wants a quiet life.. i long for peace and quiet .. i love napping and snoozing.. choice [a].. sexy young birds in a hot sweaty night club ??? choice [b] a shady cool spot under a tree by a lake in a forest with a crate of Thatchers vintage cider and a well set up guitar..??? errrr.. |