BS: Perhaps a Grouse?

Subject: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:05 PM

Why was a Mudcat chosen as the site mascot? From reading the BS threads these last few months, perhaps a grouse would have been more appropriate.

Sure are a lot of disguntled folks here. Me, I'm gruntled most of the time..

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:11 PM

Not a "Grouse", I'd prefer a Glelivet!

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: ranger1
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:15 PM

Would you like a ruffed grouse or a spruce grouse, Jerry?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Pogo
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:21 PM

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I'd agree Jerry...but I do hope the gruntled threads eventually outweigh the disgruntled ones.

Still perhaps...it is just all part of the delicate balance of nature...like the ebb and flow of the sea...the grouses and the mudcats, living in a symbiotic relationship so intricate we as humans cannot fathom it...

eh...

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:25 PM

I think there are ruffled grouses in here, Ranger1... :-)

Jerry

I wonder what disgruntled comes from? Have to look it up in the dikshunairy.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: ranger1
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:27 PM

Yeah, but they could be spruced up a bit, don't you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:37 PM

So, which is worse? People Jerry Rasmussen has labelled 'disgruntled' or Jerry Rasmussen starting yet another thread to whine about people he has deemed not cheerful and positive enough for his taste?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:38 PM

Definitely could use some sprucing up...

Couldn't find an explanation of where the term disgruntled came from.
I think it's kissing cousins to grumblers, though.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: open mike
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:39 PM

http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/Infocenter/i3000id.html
or perhaps a sharp tailed grouse?
http://www.ruffedgrousesociety.org/
or would you believe woodcock?
ptarmigan?
chukar?
i htink my favorite is the chachalaca or hte cendragapus obscurus!!

GROUSE, TURKEY & QUAIL-Order: Galliformes
Chachalaca-Family: Cracidae
    Plain Chachalaca Ortalis vetula
Grouse-Family: Phasianidae
    Chukar Alectoris chukar
    Gray Partridge Perdix perdix
    Ring-necked Pheasant Phasianus colchicus
    Ruffed Grouse Bonasa umbellus
    Greater Sage-Grouse Centrocercus urophasianus
    Gunnison Sage-Grouse Centrocercus minimus
    Spruce Grouse Falcipennis canadensis
    Willow Ptarmigan Lagopus lagopus
    Rock Ptarmigan Lagopus mutus
    White-tailed Ptarmigan Lagopus leucurus
    Blue Grouse Dendragapus obscurus
    Sharp-tailed Grouse Tympanuchus phasianellus
    Greater Prairie-Chicken Tympanuchus cupido
    Lesser Prairie-Chicken Tympanuchus pallidicinctus
    Wild Turkey Meleagris gallopavo
Quail-Family: Odontophoridae
    Mountain Quail Oreortyx pictus
    Scaled Quail Callipepla squamata
    California Quail Callipepla californica
    Gambel's Quail Callipepla gambelii
    Northern Bobwhite Colinus virginianus
    Montezuma Quail Cyrtonyx montezumae

i htink my favorite is the chachalaca or hte cendragapus obscurus!!

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:39 PM

So Jerry, if you so dislike grumblers and the disgruntled, why do you keep starting threads complaining about them? Doesn't that make you a disgruntled grumbler as well?

See how it works yet, Jerry?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: pdq
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 04:48 PM

Far too many Blue Grouse and Ruffed Grouse I say. Let there be more Sage Grouse and Mudcat will be a better place.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: ranger1
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:06 PM

With the weather outside at the moment, my vote is Ptarmigan.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:10 PM

Aha, then Guest... you are grumbling that I am grumbling that you are grumbling. I'm not actually grumbling, however... just observing. I always enjoyed bird watching.

Or as my friend Art would say, Thats the way the cookie grumbles.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Megan L
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:11 PM

never seen a sharp tailed but there are a few sharp tongued ones around. and ye a forgot the best wee grouse o them a Famous Grouse :)

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:13 PM

Your original question is answered by the fact that the site was first dedicated to blues, especially Delta Blues, named after the delta region of the Mississippi, where the local catfish breed is the Mudcat. Capiche?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: ranger1
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:18 PM

oh, so it's blue grouse!

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:29 PM

Thanks, Amos. You know, I always wondered why this site is supposedly devoted to blues and folk music (with blues listed first.)
There seems to be very little attention given to blues. You'd think with all the disgruntled grouses in here, there'd be more emphasis on blues.. :-)

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:32 PM

What I'm wondering, are grouse rubbish?

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Teresa
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:47 PM

I don't know about grouse, but I know mudcats eat rubbish. :)

As far as I know, Max is a blues lover. Not sure how the site changed into more folkie things, except that the Digitrad may have been an influence in that direction.

From the American heritage dictionary: disgruntled: [ dis- + gruntle, to grumble (from Middle English gruntelen, frequentative of grunten, to grunt; see grunt).]

Teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 05:51 PM

Thanks, Teresa:

I stand corrected. (Or sit corrected at the moment.) I am not gruntled. Except once in awhile. Everybody gets gruntled oncet in a while. I guess if you're gruntled too much, you become disgruntled.
Let that be a warning to all of us.. :-)

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 06:41 PM

Jerry, the Mudcat has two mascots: Cleigh Opposum and The Little Pissant.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 07:14 PM

Tsk, tsk-- it's in the FAQ (isn't everything?):

Define "mudcat"

mud cat

any of several catfishes capable of living in Muddy Waters.

Source: Webster's New World College Dictionary

Catfish and Muddy Waters are inextricably connected to the Blues. Max started the place as a blues site, but generously invited us folkies to join him. Sometimes, he's still not too sure of us. Ask him what he thinks of Gordon Bok.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Cluin
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 01:47 PM

We call `em partridge.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 01:56 PM

I'd like to swap for some partridge cartridge. You know -- partridge cartridge barterage.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Cluin
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 02:00 PM

Like in New England.... Ca'tridges f' pa'tridges.

Ayuh.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 02:54 PM

The grouse's spouse was soused.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 03:00 PM

My grandmother called em pa'tridge... pahh'tridge, with a real Maine twang, although she was from the fly infested bog country of Salmon River, Kent county, New Brunswick, Canada. One evening at supper, as a lad, I corrected her with the fact that we were actually eating Ruffed Grouse, or, more properly, Bonasa Umbellus, from the latin for good when roasted and for the ruff. She corrected me with her cane upon my tibia. Dear ol Gramma. Her latin was a perfect as a priest's. And, she had a hell of an aim.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Once Famous
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 04:38 PM

La la la la

I am so merrily, merrily gruntled!

La la la la

Jerry, come chase butterflies in the meadow with me!

La la la la

Oh! I am just so happy hanging out on Mudcat.

la la la la..............

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 04:41 PM

Pass it around man. Don't hog it !

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Once Famous
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 04:43 PM

Sorry. Nothing to pass. Except maybe a little gas.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Gurney
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 03:24 AM

Is Cleigh Opposum its proper name, or is it called Ocker Ina?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 03:47 AM

Disgruntled = pig thats lost its voice.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 12:59 PM

I've just stepped over the big, yellowed dictionary, where I looked up "frequentative". (See Teresa's post above.) A frequentative verb is one which expresses repeated action. A rough English equivalent would be "it keeps sticking."

Some grousing is frequentative, some is not.

Why not a capercaillie as a mascot? Suitable for those who indulge in capers and like caillies.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 06:50 PM

Disgruntled, dat gruntled, everywhere a gruntled grunt.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 07:15 PM

Plectorhynchus goldmani

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:02 AM

http://www.arkive.org/species/ARK/birds/Tetrao_urogallus/more_still_images.html

Well, I tried to make a blue clicky, but it didn't work.

Ctrl+C the above and paste it into your URL window to see my candidate.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 02:50 PM

That's one fancy lookin' par'ridge. White or dark meat ?

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 03:01 PM

Ruffed grouse, commonly known as Birch Partridge (white meat)... http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?id=62   Poor pictures, I must say. When a big cock feathers out like the pics on leeneia's site, it's quite impressive as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: Cluin
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:15 PM

A partridge drumming on a distant log in the bush in early fall... one of my favourite sounds.

That, and the sound of bacon frying in the morning, geese flying in a V overhead, my guitar when it's in perfect tune and my girlfriend rolling over towards me and saying good morning.

Subject: RE: BS: Perhaps a Grouse?
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:37 PM

Cluin... HEAVEN.