BS: Why you don't like gay marriage

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 09:30 AM

Matter of fact, Doug, there was a happy time upon this land when there were no driver's licences, no speed limits, you coud fish when and where you pleased, and there were NO taxes! :-) Admittedly, there were other nasty problems...like intertribal warfare, for instance. Anyway, things were generally pretty good for the most part and people were much freer than they are now.

Then all those frigging paleskins came across the Great Water from Europe with their Bibles and their guns and money and everything went to shit!

Now there are so many people here, so many roads, and so little unspoiled land left that it has become necessary to have driving licenses, fishing licenses, speed limits, and taxes! Disgusting, but necessary.

Be that as it may, it is not necessary to have laws prohibiting gay marriage. Driving too fast can kill people. Fishing too much can wipe out fish stocks. Driving on public roads without learning how to first is dangerous. It is (theoretically) impossible to finance government and public services without taxes...

But...it is entirely possible to live next door to a gay couple without anything happening that will cause you to lose your life or go bankrupt! You don't like their lifestyle choices? Tough! Maybe I don't like your choices in clothing. So what?

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: Peace
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 04:09 PM

One of our fromer Prime Ministers said, "We have NO business in the bedrooms of the nation." He was right.

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: Firecat
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 08:04 PM

As far as I'm concerned, people can't help who they fall in love with and want to spend the rest of their live with.

I know people who think it's "repulsive", and that "it shouldn't be allowed", and have witnessed homophobic abuse myself (I managed to get rid of the people who were doing it), but if there were no differences between people, beliefs and sexual orientation, the world would be a very boring place.

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: dianavan
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 10:21 PM

The only reason that gay marriage is an issue at all is because the insurance don't want to pay the extra benefits and social security doesn't want to pay spousal benefits.

As far as the kids go - anybody knows that you don't have to be married to have kids, anyway.

d

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 10:45 PM

And those kids I kind of feel sorry for dianavan, the ones without strong family ties.

If I am not mistaken, gay marriage was just shot down in 11 states where it was on the ballot.

Cool.

I am sick of having all of this political correct shit shoved down my throat. I think most of America just said they weren't going to stand for it, either.

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: Cruiser
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 10:46 PM

Homosexuality is repugnant behavior. If you must engage in such depraved acts don't force the rest of us to recognize and respect such by calling it marriage. Call it civil union or whatever...

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: dianavan
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 11:15 PM

Save your pity for children who have abusive fathers, Martin.

d

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: GUEST,Joseph
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 12:21 PM

I think maybe the way conservative people can protect the sanctity of marriage is by outlawing divorce, not by outlawing others to marry. I am being sarcastic, This in not about protecting marriage it is about being homophobic and trying to have power and control of a minority group. I want all you conservative people to be aware that no matter what laws you try to pass, I will still consider myself married to my husband and there is nothing you will be able to do about that. Tell that to your Churches. I don't need your Church to approve my love for my husband, there are accepting Churches for homosexuals.

Thank god you don't have as much power as Hitler, and then I'm sure homosexuals would be burned at the stake.

Ciao

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 06:01 PM

The majority of people are gettin' fed up with your political BS too, Martin. Maybe they will legislate your sorry ass out of inflicting further pain and harassment on an innocent public that would like to be left alone by mouthy knee-jerks like you. I think a majority of citizens would vote in favour of such legislation, and by your reasoning that would be the way to go, wouldn't it? The majority is always right, aren't they, Martin? Who cares about individuals who don't fit "the norm", right? Well, you sure as hell don't fit anyone's "norm", to put it mildly.

Enjoy it while you can, buddy, cos your big yap is soon gonna be illegal in my state of Illinois, pal, so mouth off while you still can or else move to Canada or Holland or some politically correct liberal place that can put up with shitheads like you! No gay marriage in Illinois and no more goddamn BS from Martin Gibson either! The majority rules, baby! Oook! Oook!

Subject: RE: BS: Why you don't like gay marriage
From: GUEST,guest "ohshenandoah"
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 09:59 PM

Getting back to the question that started the thread--
Gay marriage is linked to anal sex and many people find anal sex disgusting. Exhibit A: Martin Gibson.
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Martha C. Nussbaum [the Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago,] said "Disgust is never a good legal argument." Her dispute with disgust rests largely on psychological evidence. She cites the work of the experimental psychologist Paul Rozin, who, after testing people's reactions to different disgusting substances, concluded that the core objects of disgust — feces, spit and semen — are all things that remind people of their own animality and decay. Disgust is revulsion at the prospect of taking decaying animal products into the body, she says. It guards the body's borders.
... The problem, Ms. Nussbaum says, is that many things seem disgusting only by association. People won't eat chocolate that has been molded to look like dog doo, or soup served from a sterilized bedpan. More to the point, people learn to hate by linking their natural sense of disgust to certain people. Misogyny, she argues, is based on the idea of women as sewers, receptacles for sperm.
http://www.truthinjustice.org/emotion-law.htm
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My second point-- The bible never explicitly states that homosexuality is wrong. You can go through the Bible with a fine tooth comb, and cull out a few passages. But when you go back to the original Greek or Aramaic, the word that is used means "temple prostitute." So the patriarchs were saying, People should not have sex with whores [of both sexes] at the temples.   

I have a wonder ful cartoon of angry micro-organisms gathered round a bride and groom micro-organism. They are shouting, "You are defying millennnia of single-cell reproduction!"

In geological time, or biological time, the insitution of Western European nuclear families is just a blink.