Worldwide Singaround thread overflow

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 01:37 PM

This Monday will be my last in the folk 'wilderness' this time it will be me in transit arriving at Gatwick about 10:30 pm London time, then 2-3 hours to get home.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:00 PM

Hi, Felipa

I go to another weekly singaround that has themes. It can be nice, bu I'm not inclined to require it for the Mudcat Singaround. I see singers often inspire each other and carry a theme along, and I think I prefer that sort of spontaneity.
Cheers!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 03:46 PM

I just got an email from Pelagie, asking what time we'll be starting this coming Monday. The UK goes to standard time this Sunday, 25 October. I suppose the same applies to Ireland and the rest of the EU. Am I correct?

The US goes to standard time on Sunday, November 1.

The math confounds me here. This coming Monday, if we start the singaround at 8 PM London time (which is what I'm inclined to do), what time will it be in California?

-Joe, puzzled-

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It appears from the converter below that on October 26, it will be 8 PM London time and 1 PM California time.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20201026T200000&p1=136&p2=4962

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Felipa
Date: 14 Oct 20 - 05:15 PM

Joe, Ireland follows Greenwich time, but in France etc. it is an hour different and if they have "summer time" ("daylight savings time" in US). There was talk of the E.U. doing away with seasonal time changes for member states in future.

re themes, I suggested having occasional theme nights,not weekly and that the theme would not be obligatory. I did enjoy the themed sessions at the virtual Getaway. There the theme was pretty much obligatory but in some cases very widely interpreted.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:33 AM

Because we have a number of singers in the UK who come in late, I'm going to schedule the Singaround according to London time this coming Monday. So the Singaround will start as usual at 8 PM London time, but at 1 PM Los Angeles Time and 4 PM New York time.
I'll be sending out the email in a few minutes.
See you Monday.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 06:08 AM

Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 07:33 AM

> Isn't London eight hours later than Los Angeles? (or am I overlooking some Standard vs Daylight Savings thing?)

Normally it's eight hours, but not in the brief period when one is on daylight saving and the other isn't.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 20 - 02:36 PM

Well, I screwed that up, as Bev Praver gently told me. The discrepancy in time changes happens on Monday, October 26. And on THAT day, the Singaround will start at 1 PM Pacific Time and 4 PM Eastern, and 8 PM London time.

But this coming Monday is October 19, and it will be at the usual times.

Sorry for the confusion.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:16 PM

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround-Normal time this week
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Oct 20 - 01:23 PM

Ah no, that was not a puzzled response, it was meant to be a wry smile!

: )

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM

Thirty-four of us in here now. A great night is being had by all!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Tim Chesterton
Date: 20 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM

Bit of shameless self-promotion here:

Thanks to those who were saying nice things about my own original tune for 'Cold Blow and the Rainy Night' at the singaround today.

If you like it, it's on my CD 'Folk Songs and Renovations.' You can get the single track here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM

Once upon a time, my voice teacher gave me a tip about stage fright. She said there is bound to be at least one person in the audience who wishes you well and looks friendly. Focus on that person.

Now, the week before last, I was singing and looking for that person, and I realized to my dismay that most of the faces I saw were not people, but photographs. I suppose they were people who didn't want to listen to others, just to sing themselves. So they ambled off to walk the dog or balance their checkbook, leaving their lifeless picture in their place. Pfui.

Last Monday, I am happy to say, there were many more live people in place, and I felt better about singing my song. Keep up the good work, everybody.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 02:46 PM

And it was a very lovely song you sang and well sung too on Monday!

I do try to stay live on Zoom unless it is absolutely necessary to switch off video because I think this is what you would do in a real folk club if you spent your evening there ....plus you never know what you might miss.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: pattyClink
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:06 PM

Oh, leeneia, don't despair and think people aren't interested in hearing the other singers. The session lasts 5 hours, and that's a very long time to sit in rapt attention with an encouraging look on one's face. I cut my video every now and then while I take a break for a snack or bathroom break or stretch, or just be 'at ease', and I'd rather mute my video and still hear the singer, than have the singer see me scratch myself or fork down some food.   I think you just had the bad luck to be in the spotlight when too many people were taking a break. We love hearing you!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 04:50 PM

Hear hear!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 06:45 PM

The other thing is, that if people are having problems with their broadband connection, it helps to switch off the video and just use the audio, so don't take it personally if people are not all avidly watching: or they might be having their supper and don't want to be seen stuffing their faces...! I might bring my knitting next week, or do my ironing!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Oct 20 - 07:05 PM

It people are singing and having connection problems, I will sometimes switch off their video so the sound comes through better. This is not meant as an insult (usually ;-)

They should feel free to switch their video back on once they're finished singing.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: leeneia
Date: 22 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM

Thanks, Sarah. I'm glad you liked it.

I thought my voice sounded pretty bad, (it being ragweed season) but now I think that since we are right on top of our own voices, so to speak, we hear minor imperfections that listeners do not.

I encountered the same thing with a recorder once. I made a tape of myself, and I sounded better than I thought I did.

But I wish I had a clear, reliable voice like you, Schlomo and Noreen.
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As for the other matter, it's hard to believe that 80 or 90% of the group had an errand at the same time. And attention doesn't have to be avid; it's enough if a person moves a little once in a while. But that's over now. People were back for the last session.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 12:23 AM

Hi, Everyone -

I hope you will be able to join us for Monday's Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on 26 Oct It will be at the usual 8 PM London time, but an hour later than usual in the rest of the world (1 PM Los Angeles, 4 PM New York) - due to the vagaries of the change from Daylight Savings Time. We'll be back in sync next week.

Could be interesting - Casey and I have been threatened with an electric power blackout, but Noreen and others have volunteered to fill in if we can't make it.

See you Monday.

I sent out the email just now. If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, [e-mail]


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 10:25 PM

Joe - I had sent you an email about a week ago requesting info info on the Singaround. I did not get the email today tht you describe here. Can you send me the Zoom URL for tomorrow’s Singaround? Is that all I need to be able to play a song tomorrow, or do you pre-select the singers?

Jim Burrill
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 20 - 11:59 PM

Sorry I missed you, Jim. You're on the list now and should have the email.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe_F
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:01 AM

It is now 11 am Monday, and I likewise have received no notification of the URL. Am I actually on the mailing list?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 11:57 AM

I was on it, but seem to have slipped off it a while back. I usually get the link from the Mudcat Facebook page.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM

Hi y'all dentist today so aching jaws. Might come listen, though. Say Hi to Robert Rodriquez and everyone else though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Oct 20 - 12:45 AM

A very spooky day of songs. Lots of good singing, some of it moderately scary. My house generator lasted all day on a 6-gallon tank of gas, and the mains power finally came on as our singaround was ending.
One woman from the San Francisco Bay area sang a "Broken Token" song. When she introduced the song, she said it was written by Vikki Appleton Fielden. I started to introduce Vikki to the singer, but Vikki shushed me. So, we all held our tongues while the singer sang Vikki's song - and we all got a good laugh out of it afterwards. The woman sang very well, and Vikki was thrilled to have somebody sing her song.
Thank you all for a wonderful gathering.
Back to the usual times for next week's gathering. This daylight savings discrepancy lasts only one week, and then the US and UK are back in sync again.

-Joe-

We missed you, Casey. Hope the electric power is back on at your wilderness home. Thanks to Noreen for doing a great job of hosting, and to Dawn for assisting.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 28 Oct 20 - 04:01 PM

Where is Joe and Noreen? 8pm gmt and meeting not open for me!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 Oct 20 - 09:08 AM

Hi folks,

I won't be able to join you all until about 10pm GMT as I have another - important - zoom meeting to go to - nothing to do with folk or music.

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Oct 20 - 04:13 PM

We were there on Monday 26th October Bradfordian, and will be there again next Monday 2nd November. I presume you were hoping we were there on another day?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Oct 20 - 08:32 PM

The email has gone out for Monday's Singaround, which starts at 8 PM London time. If you'd like to join us and didn't get an email, contact me by email and I'll add you to the list.
Joe Offer
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 01 Nov 20 - 08:14 AM

I've noticed that their are quite a few parodies about trump floating round. I know we don't do themes, but with the looming election and the gloom and doom around the world if anyone has any they can share it might lend itself to some much needed levity... On a selfish note, preferably after I am able to get to the session.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 10:18 AM

Oh I got levity planned. And some truly foul language.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: voyager
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 07:48 PM

I got-a-way with this Mudcat Hootenanny Tonight. What a hoot.
Very much enjoyed singing our family version of 'Fox Went Out on a Chilly Night' - Mudcat thread

https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=168801&messages=10#4077945

voyager

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Nov 20 - 11:02 PM

Another delightful singaround. I'm glad Tim/Voyager came and sang the version of 'Fox Went Out on a Chilly Night' that was passed on through his family. I think I'll take up that version myself, but I wanted to hear if from somebody who knew it first.
Such wonderful singing and such nice people, every Monday.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 07 Nov 20 - 01:50 PM

I will be drinking a glass or two of prosecco on Monday night to share the celebration of the result.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Nov 20 - 03:06 PM

Come join us and sing on Monday, November 9. We start singing at Noon Los Angeles, 3 PM New York, and 8 PM London time. And some hardy souls from New Zealand and Australia will join us at the crack of dawn Tuesday. Doors open half an hour beforehand for cocktails and conversation. We sing two times around the group, which takes 4 to 5 hours, and then we have a cocktail hour afterwards.

I've emailed out the link for Monday's sing just now. If you're not on the list and would like to be, contact me by email, [e-mail].

Hope to sing with you soon.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Nov 20 - 11:51 PM

I sent out the emails with Monday's link yesterday (Saturday). If you didn't get an email and would like to join us, send me an email.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 12:28 PM

That's great Gerry thanks! So many great songs I missed by leaving early.
Do you remember who sang Song for Vic? Not heard that for too long.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 03:20 PM

The breeches/petticoat swap is sung after the 4th verse in the live rendition.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 04:14 PM

Moorley Man, Monique, thanks for filling in some gaps. The things I miss by insisting on getting dressed and having some breakfast before joining the festivities!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Nov 20 - 09:27 PM

We're glad you come in clothing, Gerry... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 07:42 AM

I’ve not been logging the songs I do on Mudcat Zoom. On 16th I did a poem “November” by Thomas Hood.which is listed as “No Sun, no moon”

Nice to see that someone else sang “More hills to climb”, it’s a great song that I have done previously on Mudcat Zoom.

On another note, “Andy’s gone with cattle” sounds interesting. If that’s a parody, anyone have the lyrics to share?
Brad.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 08:01 AM

gerry, for your list, the titles of the two songs I did were:

Somebody Would Shout Out Shop   (Weston & Lee - 1915), and
The Gallant Shopping (Lyrics S P Belsey - 1986, Tune Trad)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:29 PM

Thanks, SPB. Bradfordian, Andy's Gone with Cattle is not a parody, it's a poem written by the Australian poet Henry Lawson in 1888, set to a tune collected by John Manifold.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:34 PM

The lyrics to Andy's Gone with Cattle are in the Digital Tradition. Maybe /mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=286 will get you there.

There are a couple of mondegreens in the DT version. "cheat" should be "cheek", and "tomorrow" should be "torrents".

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 06:32 PM

Try this: Andy’s Gone With Cattle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 20 - 07:00 PM

Emails have been sent out - Saturday, I think. If you'd like an advance link by email, contact me.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Now!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 04:45 PM

30 people here now, but it's been up to 49. Come join us. The singing is wonderful.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 23 Nov 20 - 10:55 PM

We got up to #49 today, Joe, just an unusual number of late (but very welcome!) arrivals.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:53 PM

andys gone with cattle sounds like this,ignore the tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5w75f_Lz_A&list=UU-GtPNIEDLICv5yKnirJAPg&index=31