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Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!

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Waddon Pete 05 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM
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Sarah the flute 06 Jun 20 - 03:53 PM
Noreen 06 Jun 20 - 07:31 PM
Joe Offer 06 Jun 20 - 08:38 PM
Joe Offer 07 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM
Joe Offer 10 Jun 20 - 12:35 AM
Noreen 21 Jun 20 - 02:45 PM
Stilly River Sage 22 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM
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Monique 29 Dec 20 - 04:56 AM
Gallus Moll 29 Dec 20 - 12:15 PM
Joe Offer 29 Dec 20 - 11:38 PM
wendyg 01 Jan 21 - 12:38 PM
maeve 01 Jan 21 - 01:01 PM
Joe Offer 01 Jan 21 - 01:54 PM
GUEST 04 Jan 21 - 12:17 AM
Noreen 04 Jan 21 - 01:35 PM
Joe Offer 04 Jan 21 - 07:48 PM
GerryM 04 Jan 21 - 10:59 PM
Rusty Dobro 06 Jan 21 - 06:16 PM
Joe Offer 11 Jan 21 - 02:13 PM
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Joe Offer 12 Jan 21 - 04:33 AM
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Waddon Pete 14 Jan 21 - 05:33 AM
GerryM 14 Jan 21 - 06:49 AM
GUEST,SPB COPPERATOR on mobile 15 Feb 21 - 05:13 AM
Monique 16 Feb 21 - 11:26 AM
SPB-Cooperator 28 Feb 21 - 06:23 PM
Joe Offer 28 Feb 21 - 06:32 PM
GUEST,Splott Man 01 Mar 21 - 04:55 PM
Joe Offer 13 Mar 21 - 07:28 PM
Mrrzy 15 Mar 21 - 01:55 PM
Joe Offer 20 Mar 21 - 10:07 PM
Joe Offer 21 Mar 21 - 09:33 AM
Waddon Pete 21 Mar 21 - 09:58 AM
Tattie Bogle 23 Mar 21 - 08:31 AM
Mrrzy 24 Mar 21 - 09:49 AM
GerryM 24 Mar 21 - 06:47 PM
SPB-Cooperator 25 Mar 21 - 05:44 AM
MoorleyMan 25 Mar 21 - 05:53 AM
Joe Offer 29 Mar 21 - 09:00 PM
Joe Offer 03 Apr 21 - 06:38 PM
GerryM 03 Apr 21 - 06:56 PM
SPB-Cooperator 04 Apr 21 - 08:40 AM
GUEST,Cathal O'L 05 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM
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Waddon Pete 25 Apr 21 - 02:25 AM
Joe Offer 01 May 21 - 02:53 PM
Waddon Pete 01 May 21 - 04:17 PM
Charmion 10 May 21 - 07:40 AM
YorkshireYankee 17 May 21 - 09:26 PM
Joe Offer 31 May 21 - 08:16 PM
Felipa 01 Jun 21 - 11:37 AM
Mrrzy 13 Jun 21 - 08:10 PM
Joe Offer 13 Jun 21 - 08:23 PM
GUEST,Emmie 14 Jun 21 - 11:40 AM
Noreen 19 Jul 21 - 12:03 PM
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Joe Offer 19 Jul 21 - 03:32 PM
leeneia 19 Jul 21 - 09:45 PM
Joe Offer 14 Aug 21 - 08:54 PM
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GerryM 17 Aug 21 - 08:44 AM
Joe Offer 02 Oct 21 - 11:27 PM
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Subject: Mudcat online singaround?
From: GUEST,Chris Lamb
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 06:01 AM

Link posted here Mondays for the week's Mudcat Worldwide Song Circle.
Singing starts Mondays at 8 PM London time (7 PM today only). That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and early Tuesday morning in Sydney. Doors open half an hour earlier.


Back in March (2020), on a thread that's now closed, Joe Offer said: "And I think it would be really nice if we could have a weekly Mudcat singaround online."
Was this suggestion taken up? It would be great to put a face and a voice to some of the regular Mudcatters and to hear them sing, on Zoom, perhaps. I'd love to hear Jim Carroll sing again, for example, as I haven't heard him or Pat McKenzie sing since Critics Group days.

The many singarounds that have sprung up since lockdown started have brought together some fine singers from across the seas and enabled us to hear those we would never have been able to listen to in normal times.
Can the Mudcat community respond to this opportunity?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM

Now there's an idea!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 02:06 PM

Go for it!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 03:53 PM

That sounds good to me
Nothing much else on a Monday and 9pm start is good

Sarah


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 07:31 PM

I’m up for it too, 9pm Mondays is good for me, and Zoom works well.

Are you up for organising it Joe? ??


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jun 20 - 08:38 PM

Okey-dokey. I think we have a minyan. Well, it's supposed to be 10 adult, circumcised males, but we'll make do with what we've got.

Monday at 8 PM London time. That's Noon here in California, 3 PM at Mudcat Central in Pennsylvania, and 5 AM in Sydney.



I'll host. I'll post the link to the Zoom session here in this thread just one hour before we begin, and I'll open up half an hour early at 7:30 PM for cocktails and conversation. There will be a waiting room, and I reserve the right to reject people I don't recognize - so please use your Mudcat names. Sorry.

This should be fun!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat online singaround Monday 9 PM London time
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM

When you enter Zoom, you will usually be give the opportunity to give the name you want to be known by for the session. If you have not used Zoom since June 1, you may be asked to update to the new, encrypted Version 5 of Zoom. It seems to be quite stable, so just OK the download and there you go - good reason to show up early, though.

I'm looking forward to this.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 12:35 AM

I will post the link in this thread Monday, an hour before the gathering. I will also send links by personal message Sunday, to members who post in this thread. If you've pasted anything above, you'll get a pm from me Sunday. Sorry, I can't send personal messages to Guests, so you'll have to look here Monday for the link.
I will change the meeting ID every week for security purposes.
I can't handle anything that comes in Monday, because I'm teaching a Class Mondays and have just half an hour free after the class.
Looking forward to seeing you Monday.
Joe


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 02:45 PM

Yes that’s right Amergin, for security reasons the new link is only put up about an hour before the start each week, so less likely to attract gatecrashers.

I think it’s even better than the old HearMe (which I remember very fondly) because we can see each other too!
Joe Offer has of course gone another step further and often searches for and adds info and words for the song being sung, in the chat box in real time... which sets this Mudcat Singaround apart from all others I’ve been involved with.

Mudcat is once again in the vanguard of new ideas!
(I wonder whether the wonderful Max might join us one week?!)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays 8 PM London
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM

The link people have posted here gives the first-time user the opportunity to download the software even if they load it before or during the event.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround Mondays on Zoom
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 20 - 03:19 AM

This thread is getting pretty long, but I think I'd like to preserve it as the go-to place for the singaround.
Feel free to post whatever you like here (especially lyrics to songs you have sung or will sing), but I'll probably move most messages over two weeks old to our overflow thread (click).

I'm having the best time at this Monday singaround. My big black dog Madeleine loves it, too, and she often comes into my office to listen while we're singing.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround on Zoom-Monday!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jul 20 - 01:45 PM

If there are songs posted here, they will eventually be moved to a thread for that particular song. So, free to post lyrics here, and I'll move them in good time.
We don't currently have a way of correcting the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT), and maybe it's a good idea to leave it as Dick Greenhaus left it when he died.
I am gradually trying to ensure that there is a thread to cover every song or family of songs in the DT. The best place to look for correct lyrics is in the threads, not in the DT. If the lyrics in a thread have proper title, songwriter, and source information, you can be reasonably sure they're correct. If the title is allcaps and bold and large, that means it has been reviewed for correctness.

-Joe-

I will use this thread as the permanent notification thread for the singaround. As messages get out of date, I'll move them to the overflow thread or to song threads.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 04:56 AM

I'm sorry I didn't join lately, I'm on vacation with friends so no singaround. We're glad we still can tour around though we have a curfew from 8pm to 6am. So see you all on Monday!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 12:15 PM

re Painted Veil, I believe the phrase w\s first used in a sonnet Lift Not The Painted Veil by Percy Bysshe Shelley. It was later used as a book title by Somerset Maugham, and more recently as a film title. Not sure where Iain heard / read it - I'll ask him!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Dec 20 - 11:38 PM

Well, I kinda like the idea of random wisecracks....


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: wendyg
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 12:38 PM

So how and what time does one join this thing?

wg


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: maeve
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:01 PM

From an earlier post by Joe Offer:
8 PM London time. That's noon here in California, and 3 PM in New York, and early Tuesday in Australia and New Zealand. I had no idea what time it starts in Israel (Shlomo says it's 10 PM), but we have singers from there, too.
Come join us! We open doors half an hour before the scheduled time, sing for about 5 hours, and then chat until people are done chatting. All in all, it's a wonderful time. Some people just listen - that's OK, too. Hope you can come.
If you'd like to be included on the email list, contact me, joe@mudcat.org


For security reasons, we change the URL/address of the singaround every week, and post the URL here in this thread for only a short time.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 01:54 PM

Happy New Year, Everyone!
Our next Mudcat Worldwide Singaround is Monday, January 4. It starts at 8 PM London time, 3 PM in New York, and noon in Los Angeles. People in the rest of the world are smart and can figure out the time for themselves, but I do know that we're on Tuesday morning in Australia and New Zealand.
Doors open for cocktails and conversation half an hour before, and we start singing on the hour. We sing for about 5 hours, giving everyone the chance to sing two songs.
Hope you can join us.
I emailed the invitation just now, and I'll post it here a couple of hours before the singaround. I change the link every week to try to avoid evil zoombombers.
-Joe-

Wendy, if the email address is correct on your Mudcat registration, you should be on the email list and should have received an email.

for people who didn't get an email, you can join the list by emailing joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 12:17 AM

Please send the link to join the Singaround. Thanks, Maureen maureenhannah@telus.net Referred to me by the Seattle Folk Song Group


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 01:35 PM

Our Prime Minister is due to give a televised address at 8pm today where he is expected to announce a further lockdown, so I will have one ear on that.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 07:48 PM

Another lovely singaround. Thank you, everyone.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 04 Jan 21 - 10:59 PM

Thanks, Moorley Man – will incorporate into my notes.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 06 Jan 21 - 06:16 PM

Gerry - I learnt my song from the late Monty Parkin as ‘Marks and Spencer’, but on reflection, perhaps it should be ‘Any Title Will Do’.......


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 02:13 PM

Yeah, Joe got distracted. Plumbing emergency.
Fixed.

Doors are open. Y'all come.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!
From: pattyClink
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 03:04 PM

Went thru the 'join meeting' log in drill, and it still says "please wait for the host to start this meeting--start 12:00 pm Mudcat Worldwide Singaround.


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Subject: ADD: Lullaby for a Whaler's Child/Sailor's Child
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 04:33 AM

Lois Shiner sang a lovely lullaby she wrote:

Hi Joe, re the song today, well, yesterday.
Here's the music, not chords, but notations of notes.
A la Rise Up Singing
Copied below, the first verse.
Lois Shiner

>    G       G G      A    G    G
> Hush    Lit-tle    Sai-lor Boy
>
>   G       G    G      A      G    G   
> Hush    Lit-tle    Wha-ler's Boy

> (hiC)C C    B    C   D   C A G    (All C's in this line are hi C)
> Don't cry for your Dad-dy at Sea
>
>   G    A      A#   A    F    E
> He's on - the seas sai-ling
>
> D    G       A    G    E    C    (Middle C)
> He's out - there a'   wha-ling
>
> E    G    A    G    F E    D    C   (Middle C)
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>
> Hush Little Sailor Boy
> Hush Little Whaler's Boy
> Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
> He's on the seas sailing
> He's out there a'whaling
> But he'll be home soon, you'll see
>


Lyrics only:

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on - the seas sailing
He's out - there a' whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see

Hush Little Sailor Boy
Hush Little Whaler's Boy
Don't cry for your Daddy at Sea
He's on the seas sailing
He's out there a'whaling
But he'll be home soon, you'll see


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 11:33 PM

Here's my list of songs and poems that were sung/recited, in order, at the Singaround on 11/12 January 2021. Corrections, additions, and random wisecracks always welcome. Here you go:

Here's to the State of Richard Nixon
Penny for the Ploughboys
Que Vous Etes Beau
Old King Cole
If (poem)
We Sing Hallelujah
Weeping in the Promised Land
Banana Republics
Lincoln Park Pirates
Month of January
The Shearer's Dream
The Lambton Worm
She was Very Fond of Dancing (The Calico Printer’s Clerk)
Lili Marlene (in Irish and German)
Johnny Macree (poem)
In and Around Nashville (aka Uncle Dave's Travels, Part 3)
Bring Us a Vaccine
Kissin' in the Dark
Poor Murdered Woman
Found My El Dorado in My Backyard
Remember Me
Until the Dark Time Ends
The Farm Auction
Gardening
The January June
Broken Heartland
I Ain't Nobody in Perticular
The Long Arms of Love
Ceres and Pluto and Eris
There is a Time
Power and the Glory
Reedy River
Lullaby for the Whaler's Child
Oh, Mary Don't You Weep
She's Someone's Grandmother
Nevada Jane
Jimmy Murphy
Wayfaring Stranger
Call to Song
The Dream Tree
Silver Whistle
A Stor Mo Chroi
Luckiest Sailor
Tom Paine's Bones
Let Me Down Easy
The Far Side Banks of Jordan
The Broken Token
Philadelphia Lawyer
Noah's Ark Shanty (aka A Long Time Ago, aka In Frisco Bay)
Garden Song
The Possum Song
Keep My Skillet Good and Greasy
Way Down in North Carolina
A Chat with Your Mother
Nobby Hall
Blank Space
The Charladies' Ball
The Demon Lover (aka The House Carpenter)
Mhairi Bhan
Rose Bay Ferry
Before They Close the Minstrel Show
Take a Chance
Lolly Too-dum
Windmills
Bonnie Wee Lassie (aka Bonnie Wee Window)
Why Does It Have To Be Me?
House of the Rising Damp
Night Visiting Song
The Knitting Song
Hobo's Lullaby


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 05:33 AM

Just one correction from me Gerry. "She was very fond of dancing" is properly titled, "The Calico Printer's Clerk".

I also thought I should thank you for your work in generating this list every week. It's appreciated.

Pete


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:49 AM

Thanks, Waddon Pete. I don't think I have editing privileges here, but I'm no less grateful for corrections.

    Editing privileges? That's a good idea. Gerry and Casey and Noreen now have editing privileges on this thread, and I thank all of them for their contribution to making this weekly singaround possible.
    -Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,SPB COPPERATOR on mobile
Date: 15 Feb 21 - 05:13 AM

Won't be able to be here tonight as my router has died and I have to wait for the new one to be delivered. See you all next week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Monique
Date: 16 Feb 21 - 11:26 AM

I added a link to the lyrics on the "Mudcat singaround songs not in English thread" list.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 06:23 PM

This thread seems to have lost the last couple of weeks' posts.

Anyway, I will be joining late tomorrow as I have a Labour Party zoom meeting to go to before hand.

Se you all around 10pm my time.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Feb 21 - 06:32 PM

Yeah, I've been moving posts to the overflow threads that are crosslinked at the top. Not to worry, Steve.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GUEST,Splott Man
Date: 01 Mar 21 - 04:55 PM

Here's our contribution. For some reason Zoom wouldn't let me paste.

Bugeilio’r Gwenyth Gwyn (Watching the White Wheat)?Original Welsh words by Wil Hopcyn (1700-1741) ?English translation by David Llewellyn (2002).??Mi sydd fachgen ieuanc ffol
Yn myw yn ol fy ffansi
Myfi’n bugeilio’r gwenith gwyn
Ac arall yn ei fedi
And what a simple fool am I
Who loves at fancy’s pleasure
For whilst I tend the ripening wheat
Another reaps the treasure
 
Though they may lock you dungeon deep
Our love to die aborning
Upon a leaf, blood’s true words speak
Your deepest feelings for me
But I can’t stay, my heart would break
For you must take another
Though stars will fall, our love may shine?As endless time discovers
 
Then in a dream, your vows set free
And to your side I hurry
But from a heart, so torn in two
In this life you’ll not tarry
And now I lose for a second time
To He whose love is greater
For whilst I tend the ripening wheat
Another reaps the treasure
 
Mi sydd fachgen ieuanc ffol
Yn myw yn ol fy ffansi
Myfi’n bugeilio’r gwenith gwyn
Ac arall yn ei fedi 


Follwed by??Little Collier
 
Yr wyf i little collier, yn gweithio underground,
The rope will never tori, when I go lan y lawr.
Bara menyn when I'm hungry, cwrw when I'm dry,
Gwely when I’m tired, and Nefoedd when I die.
 
I'd like to cwrdd the manager, and siarad to him strong,
This bywyd underground might mean, I do not byw for long.
Gwrando Mister Mining Boss, us bechgyn gweithio hard
Talu decent wages or your calon will grow hard.
 
So wella our conditions, and trin my family fair,
Or dwi'n mynd i Pennsylvania, am fywyd gwell lies there.
To all bosses mawr y byd, you know chi fod yn true.?Talu living wages or no Nefoedd waits for you!
 
Repeat first verse


Tune : Pigau'r Dur )Steel Rods)

Splott Man & Dame Pattie Smith EPNS


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Mar 21 - 07:28 PM

Hi, Everyone -
Please note that because the US and UK change to Daylight Savings time on different dates, our Singaround for the next two weeks, March 15 and 22, will begin at 7 PM London time. In the US, starting times will be the usual Noon in Los Angeles and 3 PM in New York. Those of you in the rest of the world will have to figure out the starting time on your own, because you're less likely to confuse it than I would be.
We open the doors and chit-chat for half an hour before starting time, and then we sing for about 5 hours and then have an online party.

I'll post a link here about an hour before we open our doors on Monday. If you want advance notice, email me to get on the weekly email notice list. I'm sending out this week's email right now.

joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Mar 21 - 01:55 PM

Ides hope to hear you all today!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Mar 21 - 10:07 PM

Email going out now. For you folks not yet on Daylight Savings time, remember that the Singaround will begin an hour earlier than usual. I think we go back to normal coordination on Monday, March 29.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Mar 21 - 09:33 AM

I sent the email out late Saturday. Did anyone get it?
Joe


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 21 Mar 21 - 09:58 AM

Yes...loud and clear Joe!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 08:31 AM

I only ever had one email a long time ago, but I just look for the link here and seem to get in OK! Thanks for keeping it all going, Joe and Noreen, and Gerry for doing the songs sung lists....and Chris for suggesting it last June!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 09:49 AM

What'd I miss?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:47 PM

"What'd I miss?"

Mrrzy, I'll be posting the list of what was performed, in the dedicated thread, some time in the next 24 hours, I expect. I know that's a poor substitute for actually being there.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:44 AM

I'm invoking the fifth amendment. :)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:53 AM

It's ok Mrrzy, it got sorted, I did the list till Gerry arrived and passed it straight on to him.
So "What'd I miss?" - Well you of course, Mrrzy!...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Mar 21 - 09:00 PM

Another wonderful gathering. We had something over 50 participants. That keeps us singing for FIVE hours, going twice around the circle. I think we can sustain this as long as we have twenty participants. After that, I think we should talk. But for me, every Monday has been wonderful since we began.....and then I have to take a serious nap right afterwards.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:38 PM

Come one, come all! The announcement for the April 5 Singaround just went out by email. If you'd like to be added to the list or if you didn't get your announcement, email me, joe@mudcat.org


It happens every Monday and goes for about five hours. Doors open half an hour early.
Singing begins at Noon in Los Angeles, 3 PM in New York, and 8 PM in London. Hope you can come.

I've been asked to remind people to keep conversation and spoken song introductions to a minimum during the singing portion of our gathering - but we do appreciate it if you give us the name of the song before you sing, and a brief explanation is always welcome. Our schedule makes some people be up at ungodly hours, and they've come to sing, not talk. We stay open for conversation afterwards for as long as people want to stay.
In general, we have a five-minute time limit per person. Don't fill obliged to fill up the whole five minutes.
In short: Don't talk Too Much!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: GerryM
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:56 PM

Joe, perhaps someone should sing this.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Apr 21 - 08:40 AM

That's my plan scuppered for tomorrow. I was planning to do a short (less than 5 minutes) description of a Czech traditional Easter custom instead of the first song. (Illustrated if I would be allowed to screen share).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: GUEST,Cathal O'L
Date: 05 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM

Only just come across this website. Would love to join Joe Offer but am unfortunately working - I'll keep an eye out for others in future.
Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 09:52 PM

Thanks for coming, everyone. It was another perfect gathering. Time for my nap now. This has been going for 7 hours.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 07:12 PM

Emails for Monday's Singaround went out a couple hours ago. Email me if you didn't get an email and would like to attend.
joe@mudcat.org

Oh, and could one person who received my email today post acknowledgement here, so I'm sure it went out?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 25 Apr 21 - 02:25 AM

It sure did Joe! Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 May 21 - 02:53 PM

Email just went out. If one person can assure me they got the email, then I'll feel safe that it went through.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 01 May 21 - 04:17 PM

Yes Joe,

Safely received. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Charmion
Date: 10 May 21 - 07:40 AM

Hi, Joe — I would like to join the Zoom singaround from Stratford, Ontario. How do I do it?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 17 May 21 - 09:26 PM

As requested, here are the words of the parody I sang this evening.

Note: This is written by someone in the UK, and verse 4 (which I skipped this evening) refers to a now-infamous incident in the spring of 2020 during the UK's first lockdown, when Prime Minister Boris Johnson's chief adviser Dominic Cummings violated the rules he had helped to write – by driving himself and his family ~250 miles from London to Cumbria, after discovering he and his wife had clear symptoms of Covid and then about a week later drove 30 miles to scenic Barnard Castle "to test his eyesight" before returning to London (it was just a coincidence that it happened to be his wife's birthday) – and, in spite of public outrage, did not resign and was not sacked. (
More info here.)

I LOVE NOT WHERE I LIVE
A topical parody of the song 'I Live Not Where I Love'
by Colin Andrews

Come all you folks who social distance
at least two metres from your friends
Come let me tell you what I miss and
ask when will restrictions end

We're not allowed to kiss or cuddle
or give a friend a loving hug
Or even sing a song together
just in case we spread the bug

Regulations now require us
to wear a mask when in a store
To help defeat corona virus
we (must) keep our distance when outdoors

But government advice is farcical
when its adviser all the rules ignores
And takes a trip to Barnard Castle,
no apology, just a curt 'Up yours'

Around the world among all religions
folk have in their thousands died
While some leaders don't care a smidgeon
and others still the threat deny

The world has changed and life seems strange
no jet-setting to distant lands
Virtual socialising, sanitizing
and the government will wash its hands

So be aware lads be aware lasses,
if I could only have a choice
I'd fly away to safe New Zealand
far from Johnson's waffling voice
But since I'm furloughed I can't follow
my wishes or my job I'd lose
I'll stay in my pod and pray to God
for some day soon much better news


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 21 - 08:16 PM

Another lovely gathering, the last of our first year. Our one-year anniversary celebration will be next week. Bring your best songs, even if you've sung them before.
Everybody gets two chances to sing unless they arrive very, very late.
See you next week.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: one year anniversary
From: Felipa
Date: 01 Jun 21 - 11:37 AM

I don't know which are my best songs (if anyone wants to pmail me with advice ...?). But we also had a suggestion to sing songs about parties and celebrations, so I am hoping some singers take up that suggestion. And probably a couple of Mudcatters would be inspired to compose a ditty specifically for the occasion.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 08:10 PM

I did not get a link for tomorrow and I'll be late, can someobe number and note?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jun 21 - 08:23 PM

Big construction project at the Slowick-Offer household Saturday. We built a fence to keep our dogs from the neighbor's dogs (and cows).

You should have the email by now. See you Monday!!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: GUEST,Emmie
Date: 14 Jun 21 - 11:40 AM

Hi, when is the next singaround please?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 12:03 PM

Hello Emmie, it is held every Monday at the times above depending where you are in the world- or early Tuesday morning for our members in Australia and New Zealand.

You can be added to the mailing list and then you'll have the notification each week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 12:07 PM

Time again to go Mudcatting! Join singers from all over the US, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, and...where else? Hear singing in English (both British and American), Irish, Scots Gaelic, Occitan, Hebrew, French, German, Breton, and… what else?

We start sing at NOON pacific daylight time, 3 PM in New York, and 8 PM in London. We sing for around five hours, depending on how many attend, and it's always wonderful. Doors open half an hour early for schmoozing and numbering the singing order. Be sure to update to the latest version of Zoom.

Through the miracle of technology, this session will be hosted by Noreen Keene (in England with Irish connections) with backup hosting from Casey Casebeer in California. And let’s have a round of applause for the wild and wooly Mudcat session assistant volunteers, without whom all would be anarchy and pandemonium. (Anarchy and pandemonium have their place, granted, but not at an event that gets through 30 to 60 singers every session!)

Joe is on vacation, and about time. He’ll be back next week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 02:52 PM

Czech. Moravian, possibly some Silesian dialects.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 03:32 PM

Have fun, everybody. I'll miss you.
Joe, eating Rhode Island hot wieners


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: leeneia
Date: 19 Jul 21 - 09:45 PM

You did a fine job, Noreen. Thanks are due to you and Casey and the other volunteers.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 21 - 08:54 PM

Email for Monday just went out.

Let me know if you didn't and you'd like to join us. I'll add you to our weekly email list.
joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 04:00 AM

Firstly…..HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE OFFER.
Many lovely tribute songs to NANCI GRIFFITH yesterday on Mudcat Zoom Monday, especially loved Joe’s rendition of “Across the great divide” Thank you Joe, and all the wonderful performers


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: GerryM
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 08:44 AM

"Across the Great Divide" was written by Kate Wolf (but Nanci Griffith did it splendidly).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Oct 21 - 11:27 PM

I sent out the invitation for Monday, October 4. Please contact me, joe@mudcat.org, if you didn't get an invitation to Monday's sing and would like to attend.

Since 1999, the annual Getaway of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington has been the annual gathering for Mudcatters worldwide. It happens next weekend, Oct 8-11. We're going to cancel the Mudcat Singaround for October 11 and invite Mudcatters to attend the Getaway that weekend. It's a wonderful gathering. https://www.fsgw.org/getaway


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Oct 21 - 11:36 AM

Hi, Everybody -
We usually sing Mondays on Zoom - Noon Los Angeles time, 3 PM New York, and 8 PM in London. We sing for about 4 hours, and get about 40 singers from all over the world.
We won't be meeting next week because we'll all be at the FSGW Getaway (Oct 8-11, 2021), so come sing with us today and every Monday except next week (come to the Getaway next week).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Oct 21 - 08:24 PM

I I sent out Monday's invitation and Zoom link today. If you'd like to join us and didn't get an email, email me at joe@mudcat.org

During the week, I see posts from people asking about a song. Think about coming to the Singaround and singing what you know of the song for us. If you're short on time and can't wait two hours to sing, let me know in the Zoom chat and I'll squeeze you in early. The idea of the Worldwide Singaround is for Mudcatters to meet each other and share songs. I try to be as flexible as possible to accommodate everyone.

If you have any comments, feel free to speak up.

Joe


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Taconicus
Date: 22 Nov 21 - 07:20 PM

Do you ever post videos of the performances, Joe? I know you record them.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Nov 21 - 08:20 PM

Hi, Taconicus - we allow singers to record their own performances, but we agreed by consensus not to record the entire session. Sure wish I had a recording of George singing "The Queen and the Soldier" (Suzanne Vega).


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 20 Dec 21 - 12:51 PM

We hope to be able to pop in for the happy cocktail half-hour before the session tonight.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!!
From: GUEST,GUEST.MaJoC the Filk
Date: 11 Jan 22 - 07:59 AM

Wonderful first time for me last night. I mentioned afterwards to Herself that someone sang the Hedgehog Song. "No!" says she, delightedly.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 18 Jan 22 - 12:40 PM

Sorry I missed Monday - still getting over the first cold I have had for 2 years (not Covid) which has knocked me flat. Hope to be back on Monday with the semblence of a voice.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 18 Apr 22 - 02:03 PM

May be a little late tonight - cooking pan fried sea bass in a butter lemon and herb sauce for Easter.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Today!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 14 Jun 22 - 03:51 PM

A little techie question. How difficult would it be to create a world map with virtual pins showing the cities, states or countries where people who come or have come to the session live like the world map on trip advisor?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Jun 22 - 01:32 AM

Hmmm. That sounds a bit too much like work, SPB-Cooperator - but YOU are welcome to accomplish the feat. ;-)

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 22 Aug 22 - 06:21 AM

Warning, folks: there's a security update for the Zoom client for Apple systems, and possibly for other platforms: "Zoom users on macOS are encouraged to update their client immediately to version 5.11.6". More details in the article on The Register.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Oct 22 - 11:07 PM

Another lovely gathering. 30 participants, and we sang for about 4 hours. I fell asleep while people were still chatting merrily away. I woke up and the clock said 6:30. I thought it was 6:30 AM, since 6:30 AM and PM are about the same amount of brightness this time of year - but it was 6:30 PM. Thank you all for coming.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 Nov 22 - 08:00 PM

Sorry I have not been able to get along lately, but I have been so overwhelmed with developing my business that I have been lacking the energy to participate. I hope to get along for the next three Mondays, after which I will be disappearing for another month while I am in Prague/Leipzig.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 22 - 10:24 PM

We've missed you, Steve. It's always a pleasure to see you.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 28 Nov 22 - 11:39 AM

Looks like I will have to miss tonight too as I have been invited to a party to celebrate the collective completion of a large and fairly tedious piece of work.
    We miss you, Steve. Come back to us soon. -Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: GUEST,Chris the Bard
Date: 07 Jan 23 - 10:58 AM

In the Mudcat Singaround how are performers selected/organized? Also what kind of music is expected? Is there room for original contemporary folk?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Felipa
Date: 07 Jan 23 - 03:51 PM

Chris - you just have to ask Joe Offer to email you the zoom link, which changes each week. Everyone who attends is welcome to sing; you are given a number when you sign in. So we take turns singing in roughly the order that we sign in to zoom. There is some juggling to accommodate late comers when the early birds have all had a turn, or to accommodate people who have to rush off. Most people do not stay for the full 4 hours plus; some leave early and some arrive late.

Pretty much anything accoustic is acceptable. Some people accompany their singing and others don't. There is a Mudcat thread you can look at which lists songs sung at past singarounds Songs from the Mudcat Worldwide Singaround


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jan 23 - 06:52 PM

We have mostly folk, some blues, recitations, and occasional torch songs and rock songs and a bit of filk. It's supposed to be your own performance - we frown on those who want to play recordings for us or give us garden tours or display full frontal nudity...

And if you'd like to be on our notification list, email me, joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jan 23 - 10:31 PM

The link for Monday's Singaround will appear in this thread every Monday about 2 hours before we open the doors to the Zoom session. If you'd like earlier notice, email me, joe@mudcat.org, and get on the email list.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Feb 23 - 02:56 PM

I have to say how thrilled I am every Monday that this singaround thing still works. We've been going every Monday since June of 2020, and it never gets old. The people are so nice, and the songs are wonderful. And the people who have volunteered to cohost are go good about keeping everything running smoothly. This singaround is so much fun. I look forward to it every week.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Mar 23 - 11:34 AM

It was another lovely gathering. You should come.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Mar 23 - 06:03 AM

Sorry I haven't been around lately as I have had to focus my energy on my business. Look forward to rejoining the fold about mid April.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom NOW!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 23 - 04:16 AM

hi Titirangi folk music club will be hosting an international meeting on the 1 of April. go to our website for details. we started these in response to the covid thing and it has been quite successful so come along and have a sing
Tony Smyth long standing committee member of this and Auckland folk festival


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Apr 23 - 06:09 PM

Ray Nichol send some pretty good advice for online singing sessions:

VIRTUAL SESSIONS:


The following apply to most live sessions:


• Switch your settings to have microphone and video off when joining a session.
• Check your equipment and settings before joining meetings to save time.

• Be conscious of background environments and others in the room. ?
• Computers used should be in appropriate areas, and where possible be against a neutral background. ?
• Cameras may be turned off if other distractions in the household may a disruption. ?


ETIQUETTE
• In any meeting the Host is in charge, let them deal with any questions do not butt in unless asked.

• Language must be professional and appropriate, including any family members in the background.

• Be polite and remember the other people are sitting in their own homes.

• Save non-relevant discussion for elsewhere.

• Remember that most people will know the history of songs etc, no need to tell the full story every time.

• Make use of 'Chat' to ask for information on tunes privately, or to post the information on your performance.

• Repeats are fine but remember some people may have heard the same one last time.

• Possibly keep a note of your own performances to help you plan for next time.

• Try not to practice during someone else’s performance, and mute to tune up.

• Do not post links to other sessions without permission.

• If you join a session give it your full attention, joining just to perform is very rude.

• Even if there is no time limit, don't drone on.

• Choose pieces that are of an appropriate length, don't expect a welcome back if you go on for 15 minutes.

• There is no such thing as constructive criticism on Zoom sessions. Keep it to yourself.

• If you are late for the session, you can still join but expect to be at end of list.



RULES
• Participants are expected to adhere to Club rules and maintain appropriate behaviour.

• On most sessions, No Politics or Religion, Zoom groups are very mixed everyone is entitled to their own views.



RECORDING

• Sessions should NOT to be recorded on any device unless permission is granted.
• If any members would like a recording of 'their performance only' please ask Host who may send you the video file. (if you ask, we will let you record your own performance at the Mudcat Singaround, but please keep conversation and disturbances related to recording at a minimum).



We've been doing this Mudcat Worldwide Singaround for almost 3 years now, and we're still having fun. Come join us on Zoom Mondays. We start at noon Los Angeles time, which is 3 PM in New York and 8 PM in London. Doors open about half an hour earlier.

Please remember to keep song introductions short and between-song conversations at a minimum. I got a lot of complaints last week because I let some newcomers prattle on. So, folks, quit prattling. People tend to think it's boring. And if you feel driven to give tech advice, please refrain. If you're giving advice to a singer, our tech people can't talk to them. So, HUSH!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom Mondays!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 10 Apr 23 - 08:56 AM

Good points there, maybe worthy of deeper discussion but on another thread.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 May 23 - 06:44 AM

Email from Casey:

We rely, as always, on the skills of the volunteer co-hosts to do the zoomy part of running the session. Are you curious about how Joe’s Fuzzy Logic works in the second round? see the note below.

And don’t forget to post to Chat the title and origin of songs you sing (we guest hosts don’t have quite Joe’s well-known superpower for finding a song on line! Help us get your song info, so it appears on the list of songs and readings that Gerry posts to the Mudcat Worldwide Singaround thread every week.)

-------------------------------
JOE’S FUZZY LOGIC - how the singing order works in the second round.
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—The Mudcat Worldwide Singaround continues until everyone who wishes to has sung twice.

—Participants are given a number as they arrive. If you’re just listening, let the host or a co-host know, and you’ll be given the number 99, indicating to the host that you aren’t planning to sing.

—In the first round, we sing in the order of our numbers.

--There are always singers who can’t be there for the first round. This is to be expected in a large session that incorporates busy people from many time zones.

— Joe has his own system to insure that people arriving in the second round still get to sing twice.   Joe tries to avoid having anyone sing their two songs back to back. Therefore, he likes to incorporate latecomers into the queue to sing their first song soon after they arrive, and then have them sing their second song when we reach their number.

-- He accomplishes this by calling on the singers with numbers 1-10, then detouring to anyone who has only arrived in the second round and has not yet sung at all. When the late arrivals have sung their first song, he continues with singers numbered 11-20.   Then he checks once again for any additional arrivals who haven’t yet had their first song, and calls on them.   Finally, Joe continues with singers from numbers 21 on, and we sing through to the end of the queue. He may decide to let a very late arrival sing twice in a row, depending on how late the session is running.   That’s Joe’s Fuzzy Logic!


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