BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?

Subject: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:24 AM

I hope the anser is "NO!". At the grand old age of 40, however, I am beginning to think that men are SADLY lacking in the ability to think through how their actions ( or lack of actions) affect other people, and really I am not sure that they really care.

Please please please tell me I am wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:30 AM

men, like women - exist in a continuim - some are extremly selfish, others are highly oppisete. Most fall somewhere in the middle.

On the other hand, my female relatives mostly claim that anyone bearing a 'y' chromosome has to be whacked over the head with a two-by-four in order to notice anything outside himself.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Paul with cookie AWOL
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:31 AM

Look, young 'un, tell us what the problem REALLY is. No, men are not (as a whole) selfish, any more than women are. Some men, and some women, are selfish. What's he done?

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:40 AM

Smart answer, Paul, and to a great extent you are right, it is a case of "what he has done ". But my personal situation ( a break up where I had thoughtfully taken care of everyone around, whereas he thoughtlessly caused hurt to whoever was in his path ), has opened my eyes to the posiibility that men just don't think of others ( as much as women do.)

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 10:54 AM

"Are men all extremely selfish ?"

Are women all extremely selfish? That's another foolish question.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:02 AM

Fair enough ! I posed the question like that because there was another thread.. " are men all bozo'z ?"

However, stand back and think if you have found men to be more selfish in your life. Apparently women are more likely to be able to do two things at the same time, ( like put on their shoes while drying their hair), and men are less likely to be able to do two things at the same time, and this has to do with a difference between male / female brains. I wonder if there is a similar thing that makes men less likely to think about others, and perhaps how their actions affect others. I think it is a fair point.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:08 AM

To be honestly truthful - Zigz - my *personal* experience is that women are more likely to put on a show of caring about others but in the long run care less about what happens to others - whereas men tend less to care what their actions appear to be - but more considerate of what their actions actually cause.

ymmv

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:15 AM

"However, stand back and think if you have found men to be more selfish in your life."

The only answer I could give is yes and no. I have known very kind, courageous and good people of both sexes. Equally, the converse holds true. It may be a people thing as opposed to a gender/sex thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:16 AM

Good point MMario.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:23 AM

I think there is some evidence to suggest that women, on the average, are more inclined toward protecting other people (mainly due to the mothering instinct), but it's possible to do that in a selfish way too...by over-protecting, smothering, and dominating.

I get the strong impression that women are less likely, on the average, to create civil disorder, property damage, violence, and most forms of outer disruption in society...and they are more likely to contribute to order and stability and maintenance of home and family life.

You can always find individual exceptions, however, to any of these generalizations.

Here's one for you to chew on, Zigz...it is my impression that people reincarnate. I'm just about 100% sure of it at this point (for various reasons I won't go into). I'm also just about 100% sure that our souls are neither male nor female, but are beyond gender (or encompassing both genders, if you prefer). Thus, ultimately, we are not confined to being "men" or "women" beyond the short scope of various single physical lifetimes...and we all get to be BOTH male and female...but in different lives at different times.

Therefore, your present complaints about men would be somewhat ironical in light of the high probability that you yourself have BEEN a man before a number of times, and will be yet again! Beware. The gender you despise now may soon count you as one of its lifetime members.

Ha! Ha! Reality has many tricks to play on the unwary ego.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:26 AM

It depends on the person, not the gender. I think situations have a lot to do with it too.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: kendall
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:26 AM

I don't mean to "drop a clod in the churn" here, but it has been my experience that men and women tend to be attracted to certain personality types to the exclusion of all other types, then they engage in a self fullfilling prophesy. You go in with the notion that all men/women are no good, you seek out someone who fits that profile, then you announce that men/women are no damn good.This can be like the movie, Ground hogs day, doing the same stupid act over and over again.
You are not going to find a diamond in a tire store.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:28 AM

Little Hawk, Thanks for your comments.

I don't despise men, bye the way ! Like a helluva lot of women out there, I think they are quite cute but sometimes wonder what makes them tick !

I don't believe in reincarnation myself, but I enjoyed to read your point of view.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:29 AM

Zigz - This may sound callous but you might want to ask yourself why you were attracted to this man in the first place. Did he change overnight ? Were there no red flags ? In my experience people of both genders will break up with a person who was bad for them - only to start another relationship with someone else with exactly the same qualities. Good luck with your next situation.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:29 AM

Bad analogy, Kendall.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: nutty
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:30 AM

It has been proved that men have great difficulty in "Multi-tasking" , doing more that one thing at once. So perhaps that really does prove that they have one track minds.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST,Zigz
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:33 AM

Wesley, thanks for the comments. I can see how that might be the case.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:35 AM

Multi-tasking is no problem for me. I breathe and walk at the same time. Frequently, anyway.

Sex-role stereotyping is just another form of not having to think. The answer is 'there' because the person is female, male, Black, White, tall, short, slim, robust, etc, etc, etc. Ad friggin' nauseum.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:38 AM

The answer, simply put, is No.

Howzat?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:45 AM

Good point, Kendall. You too, Wesley.

Zigz, different things make different men tick. Some men want to make a conquest of every good-looking female they see, and lose interest in her soon after they have succeeded. I'd call that the "honeybee" syndrome. ;-) Other men fall in love rarely, with a particular woman, and have eyes for no one else but her. I'd call that the "romantic" syndrome. I'm of the latter type. It can lead a man to utter misery, whereas the former type can lead a man to being known generally as a shallow, self-centered, superficial jerk.

Some men are fascinated with machinery (cars, motorcycles, boats, whatever). Some aren't. Some are into sports. Some aren't. Some are inclined to faithfullness. Some aren't. Some are artistic. Some aren't. Some are aggressive. Some aren't.

If the only men who draw your attention are men who are of a certain general type, then men are all going to seem the same to you, aren't they?

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 12:34 PM

Some of the men I know are the most caring of creatures. So are some of the women. I only wish that I were less selfish than I am.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: breezy
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 01:37 PM

yes and no.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: kendall
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 04:43 PM

I read somewhere that there are plenty of mature, sensitive, loving caring men out there, but the problem is, they all have boyfriends.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 08:20 PM

Let me see if I have the question in the proper context here...

Men go out and do the hunting whilst the womenz watch Dr. Phil...

They go out a chop wood, and fix the plumbing and blow themselves up sticking their hands in lectrical boxes while the womenz watch Opra...

They are the ones who shovel thje snow, put the tire chains on, mow the grass, cut down the dead trees around the house *and* say stuff like "nice dress" when the womanz brings home the ugliest dress ever made whilst womanz watch As the World Turns...

And they are the ones who work themselves to an early death compares to their womanz counterparts whilst the womens watch Donahue...

Ahhhh, what's the question again???...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM

Bobert,

You ARE kidding, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:08 PM

He's a man with a death wish, IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:28 PM

Hey, the only womanz Iz afraid of the one closest to me... In this case it's my lovely wife, the P-Vine, who while I labor over this wored out keyboard is some 30 feet away watching a gardening show...

Did I mention that upon deciding to move down to the valley, it is the man who digs up over 500 plants and moves the little green bollocks one trailer load at a time to the new digs (pun intended)???

Okay, maybe we are selfish and like to watch the SuperBowl and maybe we ain't always Don Juan Plus and maybe we ain't capable of remembering the "exact" date of our anniversary, but I don't think we is selfish...

Stupid? Ahhhhh, yeah, okay, maybe...

That's my story...

Bobert

p.s. I think it was Feb. 9th but it might have been the 7th??? The anniversary, that is...

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:30 PM

Men aren't more selfish than women. But a men tends to assume, when lacking better information, that a woman wants the same thing he would want under similar circumstances.

And a woman tends to assume that the man knows what she wants even though she has never told him. Then when he fails to give it to her, she thinks he's selfish and uncaring.

Example: A woman is unhappy with her job. She complains to her boyfriend. He thinks she wants to solve the problem, because that's what he would want. He suggests solutions: You could talk to your boss. You could look for another job, etc. She rejects all his suggestions, because she doesn't want a solution, she just wants to be comforted. She wants him to say, "Oh, you poor thing! Your boss really is a jerk!" But she never really tells him that's what she wants, she just expects him to know it. He feels confused, discouraged, and personally rejected because she keeps rejecting his suggestions. He finally gives up making suggestions, and begins to ignore her. Now she feels rejected, and thinks he's selfish because he failed to comfort her.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Feb 06 - 09:45 PM

You got that right, Jim...

A man will try to solve the womanz problems... Yeah, it prolly is about the dumbest thing we do because should we solve it, two will grow in it's place...

Then we have two problems to solve and when we solve them it's now 4, then 8, then 16, then...

No wonder we die so early... The womenz just wear us out...

Not too sure where the "selfishness" comes into play here???

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Naemanson
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 06:52 AM

My sisters and my ex-wife all claim I am very selfish... while ignoring their own selfish attitudes. I guess we all are selfish, all of us how are stuck as humans. It comes with the territory. The reality, for me, is that I am selfish sometimes and considerate at others.

Good luck finding a partner who is not stuck in the "me only" mode. I finally did but I had to look outside my culture and race. It is refreshing to have my same old attitude seen through foreign eyes. And it is refreshing to interact with someone who does not have the same stereotypes and cultural attitudes as those of my own boring American background.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: kendall
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:26 AM

Ask my wife.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Amos
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:32 AM

Hardest and best lesson I ever learned was NOT to solve things, but just say "awww...I understand....". Makes all the difference.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: John P
Date: 01 Mar 06 - 10:10 AM

Men are different than women in a variety of evolutionary ways already noted in this thread. It's the whole gatherer as opposed to hunter thing. The different roles require different sorts of brains. Why is there a stereotype that women like to shop? It's important that the women of the tribe know where all the good roots and berries and edible bugs are. Why is there a stereotype that men like to work on cars and play sports? It's important for the men of the tribe to be able to get to the game and be big, strong, and fast enough to batter it to death. Of course, it's a lot more complicated than that, with all the societal training and pressures that are brought to bear on both sexes.

Men are different than women. If you look at their actions from a feminine point of view, of course they don't make any sense. No more than women make sense to men who don't try to put themselves in the other's shoes. Not putting oneself in the other's shoes is something that men do, that women do, that bosses do, that friends do, that co-workers do, that politicians do, that parents, children, roommates, strangers, and police officers do. It doesn't make the other person evil -- it just means there is some piece of understanding missing.

That said, there are some people who are bonafide assholes. One can understand the issues that have brought that person to where they are now, but it still doesn't excuse repeated bad behavior, or mean that one needs to put up with it.

John Peekstok

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 07:56 AM

think through how their actions ( or lack of actions) affect other people, and really I am not sure that they really care

Huh? This is a man problem? or a person problem? see below.

Take the example of a departing SO (her choice) who (seriously) needs reassurance which contrary to the man's wishes he duly does by phone regularly.
When the phone stops being answered he thinks "off the hook" - not an unknown situation.
After due course and concern he asked her friend who offers no information.
Then phone goes disconnected, friend still uninformative - could be a financial problem but how can you tell?
Then phone goes back and eventually and the person answering tells about a move elsewhere.

Now does has this friend or the ex-SO demonstrated "thinking it through"?

So the real answer is some people can respond and dig a bit deeper before making considered judgements about how to act. some can't

tick all of the above.

The women know they did not get it right but did they care? The man is not exactly bothered to engender anything other than polite conversation since.

Yes it does matter in the context of the question, and courtesy for that matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 08:31 AM

Depends on the individuals concerned and the situation.

My mother is one of the most selfish people I have ever met, so much so that I have no contact with her now. I have known a couple of people who were unselfish the the nth degree and they were difficult to be around for too long.

I think that we all need a degree of selfishness in our lives but that it needs to be kept in check. I've told Kendall that I am unlikely to raise major objections to most of the things we discuss but, if I dig my heels in then I am serious and will expect to be taken note of.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 08:35 AM

Bobert says: They are the ones who shovel thje snow, put the tire chains on, mow the grass, cut down the dead trees around the house *and* say stuff like "nice dress" when the womanz brings home the ugliest dress ever made whilst womanz watch As the World Turns...

And they are the ones who work themselves to an early death compares to their womanz counterparts whilst the womens watch Donahue...

And then you go on to say that the only woman you are afraid of is your wife....heck man, there's not one soul here threatening you are trying to make you afraid.

If your wife sits around the house while you do all that stuff, well, you picked her, eh?

I'd say that's not an accurate view of women by any means. I'd like to think you are kidding around....that stupid way you type and all...but I do recall you writing about moving all the plants...so are you writing fact? fiction? a little of both? who knows? I don't REALLY care and I'm sure no one else does either...we all know that people are people and there are selfish people of both genders.

Just keep in mind all the work your wife does to take care of you...if it's a marriage that is going to last, there is a balance in there...no one would stand the kind of situation you stated for terribly long.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 12:47 PM

One very unselfish man I knew visited a man near his own age who was completely immobilized by MS (had nerves cut because of spasms, and flat on back) in a nursing home every Saturday for years and years until the man's death.

Another one I know did legal work for the elderly for many years at the Senior Center. I'd like to marry a man like those two men.
mcm

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: kendall
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 04:02 PM

As far as I know, neither Jacqui nor I have any complaints. She is generous to a fault, and she actually enjoys doing what I tell her to do. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 05:13 PM

When it suits me, that is. Gives the old guy a feeling that he runs things, doesn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: kendall
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 07:24 PM

I DO run things. The dish washer, the vacuum cleaner, rubbish bin, my mouth....

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 07:36 PM

There are a few peculiar things about my wife and me. In some ways, we fit the stereotypes; in other ways, we have a strange role reversal.

For instance, I'm the one who likes to shop. I usually do nearly all the grocery shopping because I rather enjoy it—at least I prefer it to most other household work. Likewise, if we need to get something from a hardware store, department store, liquor store, whatever, it's usually me who gets it. We used to go shopping together, but we rarely do any more, because she always got impatient because I always wanted to linger and look at things that weren't on the shopping list. We won't go to a bookstore together. Although my wife reads a lot more than I do, she will only go to a bookstore to get a specific book that someone has recommended to her—she hates to browse. I love it. I could spend hours in a bookstore.

When it comes to mechanical stuff, my wife always leaves it to me—even the simplest stuff. If a light bulb needs to be changed, a new roll of toilet paper needs to be hung, if it's time to change the clocks at the beginning or end of daylight savings time, or if we need to program the VCR to tape something, it's always me who does it. My wife was once nearly paralyzed with fear when a squirrel got into our house. I had to leave work in the middle of the day to come home and chase it out.

But my wife is the one who mows the lawn. I guess she considers it an adjunct of gardening. She is a rather fanatic gardener.

I could tell you more—

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 07:40 PM

Michelle, Michelle, Michelle...

Yeah, *we* moved over 500 plants.... Wish that weren't a fact but, it was, and *our* backs still can attest to that...

Now, I reckon that you just ain't read 'nuff of my stuff 'cause lot of it is tongue-in-cheek... Heck, I've started many a "women" threads just as a means of folks havin' a little subject to banter around... I ain't this real serious person... I thought that was evident...

Okay, I can get purdy danged bent outta shape at Bush and his follies but even when I'm blasting him I'd like to think I'm doing it lovingly... Meaning, I love to jump on him... No, not really... I came to his defense on "PortGate" last week when everyone else was jumpin' on him...

And, yeah, I can get atd bent outtta shape when an anonomouse GUEST uses this forum to attack a battle tested Marine vet as I di when you and I had a little riff but when it come to most stuff, I'm about as laid back a gfuy as yer gonna find...

And I love my wife and she is tough as nails... Yer purdy tough, too, so, hey, I'd prolly really like you too if I were to meet you... I like women who are tough... WYSuzie is tough... She done whupped up on me a time 'er two but, hey, I loves her fir it...

Yeah, I know I can be pain in the butt because, yeah, I am intense... I argue intensely and I fun just as intensely... But intense ain't all that bad...

And I have the utmost respect for women but I sho nuff still love teasin' and messin' wid 'um... Guess there's more than just a little mischief to me...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 08:19 PM

Bobert, Bobert, Bobert....

   I figured half as much. :) I'm not tough...just tired of putting up with shit from people and decided not to put up with it anymore. I can't say if I'm like your wife or not as I don't know her, but I do know WYSIWYG and we aren't alike at all. I'm my own bird just as she is.

   I'm glad to hear you are just "funnin." I have a feeling that the mountain women in your neck of the woods would just as soon kick your sorry ass for making those kind of comments as guttin' a possum.

So says Michelle of the PA Mountain Woman Association. *G*

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 08:37 PM

bobert hear's the crack of a kitty whip over his head most of the time. poorguy. he's unhappy but he can't do anything about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 09:16 PM

Charter Member

Mountain Women International President

That's my cousin Ruthie when she was 3. I believe she resides on a mountain near Bobert.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 09:34 PM

That ain't true at all, GUEST... Ain't no kitty whips in this house though I got a new kitty that's looking fir a whippin'... Tried to mark my Martin hardshell case... Hey, that case and I been around, pal... It's got to collest collection of stickers and artwork on it and no kitty, especially no new one, gonna stink it up...

Ahhhh, as fir mountain womenz, they is the toughest of all womenz... They know how kill bears with their bare hands and then bring the sumabitch home and make it into bear stew, bear jerky, bear scrapple, bear burgers and when they're done use the rest to make up some yummy bear pie fir desert... Sho nuff... Seen it with my own one and half eyes...

Now, as fir me, I ain't no mountain womanz... When I see a bear I don't see food... "Go 'way, bear"... Now maybe that is being "extremely selfish male" but no way I'm I allready wondering where I put grandma's recipe fir bear ice cream... Nope, it's "Go 'way, bear"...

But I has over the last 20 years living on the side of the Blue Ridge become quite the hillbilly... I likes the up-'n-downess of livin' on the mountain and I like mountain folk and I like moonshine and I like hunched over the back of an old truck talkin' about dumbass men stuff that womenz don't much care for...

Maybe I am extremely selfish????

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 09:39 PM

Bobert,

Around these parts, the old men in their bibs would be hanging around the rear end of an old rusting Ford...say from the 1960's or so...and they'd be talking about crops, tractors and the price of coffee going up a nickel at the local greasy spoon. I couldn't care less about the conversation, but those folks, they are GOOD people. There was a song on the country station not long ago with the line...Good people..they ain't bad...they'll feed your dog while your gone and cover ya up when you're sleepin' on the lawn...good people..they ain't bad.

So...ya'll can have your talk about tractors, potato bugs and the newest hot rod...if that's being selfish...by God, enjoy it!

:) Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 09:42 PM

Aha...here it is....

GOOD PEOPLE

My cousin Bobby's on the county road
Pickin up trash for the car he stole
You see him in them orange clothes you?d swear he's evil
He's had sticky fingers since he was a kid
If it wasn't nailed down considered it his
For the lyin cheatin dog he is he's GOOD PEOPLE

GOOD PEOPLE they ain't bad
GOOD PEOPLE they get ya back in a fight
Loan ya couple bucks
Buy you a beer when you're down on your luck
Too bad their ain't more of us GOOD PEOPLE

Girl down the street in that doublewide
She ain't ashamed of them no tan-lines
She?s 36-24-35 and barely legal
She gotta big 'ol tattoo on her back
All the wives on the block says she?s white trash
She may not be high class but she?s GOOD PEOPLE

GOOD PEOPLE they ain?t bad
GOOD PEOPLE they?ll bring you food when you?re sick
Feed your dog when you?re gone
Cover you up when you pass out on the lawn
Why we gotta look down on GOOD PEOPLE

GOOD PEOPLE they ain?t bad
GOOD PEOPLE give you the shirt off their back
Never steer you wrong,
Go outta their way to make you feel at home
Raise hell stand up let me hear ya if you?re one of us
GOOD PEOPLE

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Mar 06 - 10:54 PM

Hey, you talkin' 'bout my neighbors...

Last month when it snowed I got my tractor 'bout half stuck on the side of the hill and knewed that if I'd done one more thing trying to get her unstuck that me and the tractor was going down the side of the hill together and, well, I love that tractor, but not 'nuff to die with it...

So my nieghor, Ron Wilson, and the Gray boyz see'd what a fix I was in so they come up and 'bout a half an hour of chainin' this to that 'n that to this and a little tuggin, we all got my tractor back on level ground...

Then, o' course, it was time fir "the chat"... The Gray boyz gotta a big Dodge pickup with a snow blade on her but it don't matter... We spent an hour talkin' baout what took us a half hour to do in gettin' my tractor outta harms way...

Yeah, I gotta admit that I felt a little selfish but not a lot since an hour before all it would have taken is jst a little less meat on the side of that hill an' this ol' hillbilly would be writtin' this from the "other side"... But, hey, all kiddin' aside, men will do some dumbass stuff when it comes to equipment...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Are men all extremely selfish ?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:06 PM

I don't mean to "drop a clod in the churn" here, but it has been my experience that men and women tend to be attracted to certain personality types to the exclusion of all other types, then they engage in a self fullfilling prophesy.

There is a folk tale that I feel is relevant here.

A person sat a crossroads was approached by a traveller. "What are the people like in the next village?", the traveller asked.

"Well" said the person at the crossroads, "What were they like at the last village?".

"Miserable folks", said the traveller, "Never spoke to strangers. cliquey lot, no hospitality, made me feel most unwelcome".

"They are identical in the village you are coming to" said the man at the cross roads".

A couple of hours later another traveller approached the person at the crossroads. "What are the people like at the next village?" asked the traveller.

"Well" said the person at the crossroads, "What were they like at the last village?".

"Great folks" said the traveller "full of fun, liked a laugh, most hospitable people, take the skin off their backs to give you a welcome".

"They are identical in the village you are coming to," said the man at the cross roads.