H M Belden. Ballads and Songs-Unfortunate Rake

Subject: RE: H M Belden. Ballads and Songs-Unfortunate Rake
From: Lighter
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 08:05 AM

But to my average ear it's hardly the "same" tune, regardless of historical relationship.

"Laredo," of course, has just one strain.

Subject: RE: H M Belden. Ballads and Songs-Unfortunate Rake
From: BenTraverse
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 12:15 PM

I agree. I'm very curious about how the melody for "Laredo" came to be, but that is probably a subject for a different threa0d. (and also one that has probably already been discussed previously!)

Also worth noting that I just through the tempo in that ABC notation because the player was playing it SUPER fast. I also don't know if it would be considered an air- probably should've left that out.

Subject: RE: H M Belden. Ballads and Songs-Unfortunate Rake
From: Lighter
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 12:38 PM

Petrie's Irish tune for "As a sailor and a soldier were walking one day" is something of a transitional form, at least to my ear:

https://tinyurl.com/2pkb7nj6

It was published in 1855, but Petrie's source (P. W. Joyce, b. 1827) had learned it "many years since," presumably in his childhood.