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BS: Troops Question President's Authority

Riginslinger 26 Feb 09 - 10:39 PM
pdq 26 Feb 09 - 10:45 PM
Riginslinger 26 Feb 09 - 11:07 PM
artbrooks 26 Feb 09 - 11:29 PM
Big Mick 27 Feb 09 - 08:13 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Troops Question President's Authority
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 10:39 PM

Well, in the interest of "getting real," the president doesn't have time to issue orders to lieutenants. The order would be coming from a senior officer, and the lieutenant would have to decide to obey the order or not. At that point, if he decided not to obey, legal issues would manifest themselves. Otherwise, it seems to me, there's no infraction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Troops Question President's Authority
From: pdq
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 10:45 PM

"In that case, I hope he enjoys his stay in Leavenworth as a private." ~ artbrooks

That speaks volumes about the poster.


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Subject: RE: BS: Troops Question President's Authority
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 11:07 PM

Well, pdq and/or artbrooks, it's perfectly plausible, it seems to me, that a lieutenant might disagree completely with the political aspirations of the president, but still maintain a great deal of respect for his commanding officer. So if an order were to be issued, coming from his CO, he might very well obey it, in spite of his distaste for the Commander-in-Chief. In that case, he can still maintian his political point of view, but he'd done nothing that is actionable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Troops Question President's Authority
From: artbrooks
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 11:29 PM

Article **: "Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President... Disagreement with an order is not relevant. Disagreement with the political aspirations of the president is not relevant. If this person exists and if he called the president a usurper, than he would, IMHO, come pretty close to "using contemptuous words".

That speaks volumes about the poster. You betcha. My post expresses the penalty for being found guilty of such a charge and specification and my personal contempt for such an individual. A military officer must respect the office, regardless of what he may think about the individual holding it. I say this from the perspective of 23 years of military service.


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Subject: RE: BS: Troops Question President's Authority
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 08:13 AM

Anyone who believes that Obama is not a US citizen is seriously ignorant of how the investigative journalists work, or they simply are using innuendo to advance a personal agenda, and hence are liars. The simple fact is that if there were any evidence to support this allegation it would be the story of the century. Limbaugh and those like him are simply using these soldiers they profess to love so much, and putting them in peril by doing so.

As to the officer's comments, he should understand that he will be held to a higher standard given his leadership position.


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