BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange

Subject: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: RangerSteve
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 04:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlhU8-nAw2k

Now if someone in Canada could explain "Nippy Cheese", I'd be happy. And it's not "Pete Serious", the accent is on the third syllable.

And really, we never lined up in our cars for miles for pizzas.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 04:16 PM

That there cheese what'll nip ya in the nose and pallette.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 04:18 PM

Lining up in cars... nope... that would never happen for any kinda grub or drink. How silly, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: kendall
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 04:38 PM

We could do with some of Canada's culture. Let's start with civility.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:09 PM

Ya better order some soon, K... on accounta we seem to be running out. Things seem to be gettin low in the civilty departrment up here too, real quick like.

Day by day, I run into peeps that just seem to be gettin more rude and less civil.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:10 PM

gnu ... I've been noticing that too, even down here in friendly Saint John ... don't know what's going on.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:13 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Hilarious! I have some East Coast Canada relatives who do sound a fair bit like that lady. There's a definite "rural" sound in the way she talks, specially the vowells...sounds like a small town gal or farmer's daughter to me...but she obviously went to Toronto, got a degree in humanities at U of T, and began an illustrious career in Canadian television with the CBC. Fascinating. Canadians don't generally sound or look much like that anymore, but a lot of them did back then.

I suspect that "nippy cheese" is a reference to the stronger and nippier varieties of Cheddar...a cheese which can indeed be quite nippy. And it is the quintessentially Canadian cheese.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: RangerSteve
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:17 PM

LH - that's what I thought, but although it happens sometimes, we usually don't put cheddar on our pizzas, usually it's mozzarella, which ain't nippy at all. Good for her, she took our pizza and Canadianized it.

And it's true we line up in our cars for fast food at the drive-in window, but for miles? No. It hasn't gotten that bad. And, seriously, when did you ever see cars lined up for pizza?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:20 PM

Actually she does look and sounds very much like my Kindergarten teacher.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:24 PM

We pot moz on our pizza, but it is nippy too. Cheese has to be nippy or it isn't cheese.

Cracker barrel Moz... now, check that out for moz... I USED to enjoy it with a cup of tea... nippy indeed! And, Cracker Barrel Old Cheddar... that'll suck yer cheeks into yer ears. A small piece between cheek and gum left to disolve without chewing will last a big pot of tea... proper tea... King Cole tea from Sussex, New brunswick.... not that crap they got up in Uppity Canada... the Red Rose dishwater.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:24 PM

North Americans don't have enough patience to line up for miles. Hell, they barely have enough patience to tie their shoes or zip up their pants upon leaving the urinal! They certainly don't have enough patience to return their damn shopping carts a mere 10 or 20 feet to the cart collecting areas in the mall parking lots. It's pathetic. Honestly, I've never seen people so lacking in patience as North Americans. Their motto should be carved on Mount Rushmore for future civilizations to marvel at 10,000 years hence:

"Give me convenience or give me death!"

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:28 PM

They don't? Tell that to the idiots that block the roads here getting into the line at Tim Horton's DoNUTS!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:32 PM

I was agog at the fact that some Scots I know buy Canuck cheddar in their shops. I thought it odd. But, it IS good stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:33 PM

Well, we patient types will wait until all you impatient types have shot each other over cutting into line and then WE'LL be in charge.

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:35 PM

That's me gnu, and I love it. Strong firm, and sharp,not claggy or rubbery, like some cheeses I could mention.

JM

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:37 PM

There was some talk here in Saint John a while back to the stop drive thrus at Tim Hortons's ... the lineups in the morning cause traffic jams.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:39 PM

Those are the people, gnu, who are too impatient to be bothered to find a parking spot, get out of their car, lock it, walk into the Tim Horton's and order something and sit down and eat it. They're also too damn lazy to do all that. Impatience and laziness are closely linked in a lot of people.

I detest the entire concept of the drive-through. It doesn't allow me the luxury of escaping from my car, getting some fresh air and exercise, and having a refreshing break from traffic and other activities. It doesn't allow me to be around other people. It assumes I would be happier to eat my food or drink my drink in complete isolation while under stress and in cramped circumstances. Wrong assumption!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:42 PM

sIx... here, the city... THE CITY!... puts up a sign that says "Do not block traffic." or some such. I have sat behind cars that don't even pull over to the centreline so I could get around them while thay are on the street waiting. That's when I lay on the horn and leave it on. Might piss off the neighbours, but that's a good thing.

Kendall... you send that order fer some civilty in yet? Maybe you shouldn't bother?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 05:48 PM

Drivethroughs should be done away with, in my opinion. They serve little or no useful purpose and they create traffic problems and stress out the employees at the fast food outlets too.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:49 AM

'Drive-In Gospel Hour'

There's a church in rural Georgia where folks don't have to get out of their vehicles....the preacher stands on the stairs and sermonizes to the parking lot... he said that he didn't want to exclude people who do most of their business from the rolled down side window....

this might not work as well in the True North in January..
snow in the wine and all that

(ps.. I really like Georgia)

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:21 AM

I hate them as well but my daughter, a busy mother with a one year old strapped into a carseat, thinks that they are a blessing so I will play the devil's advocte.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:26 AM

There was a temporary shortage of road salt a few years back....that caused some hording for a few days. Then there was the difficulty in getting wood pellets for stoves, and the flu shots. Maybe line-ups for tickets for singers. But, never for Hortons or pizza....nor East Coast Donairs.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Charmion
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 11:22 AM

As a practising, card-carrying Canuck, I have a question for my good friends & neighbours to the south: drive-thru banking. What's up with that?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 11:55 AM

"what's up with that" you ask .... I dunno but they have one here in Rothesay New Brunswick.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 11:57 AM

... I should add that the drive thru bank is right next to a quiropractor's office.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: meself
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 12:05 PM

Drive-through banks spotted in Alberta.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 12:07 PM

I'm waiting for when they install drive-through urinals (with a hose) for men who are too lazy or impatient to get out of their car and walk to the john.....

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 12:23 PM

I always returned my shopping trolleys to the proper repositories, sometimes collecting an errant one on the way.

In fact here I am now in the UK and I still do, even though I sometimes, with the RA, find it very difficult to walk from car to trolley bank back to car, especially after a long shop.

Some of us are considerate LH.

Drive through banking was a boon to me. Try dragging an ADHD 9 year old, a tantrum throwing 3 year old and a newborn (blissfully happy and quiet most of the time) out of their respective car restraints and into a bank just to make a deposit or withdrawal, only to have to get them all back in again a few minutes later. I would drive to the cross town branch much to my spouse's consternation, just for the trouble free use of drive through. So maybe that is lazy.

Didn't do much fast fooding, drive through or otherwise. Couldn't afford it.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 12:38 PM

Yeah, I gather up the scattered shopping carts that others have left hither and yon in the parking lot and return them too. It's become a sort of hobby. I also unscramble the bloody mess of tangled-up carts when I reach the repository, because half of them have just been sort of shoved vaguely in the general direction by someone who couldn't be bothered to push them properly into the cart ahead. It usually looks like the scene of a 20-car auto wreck around those cart collector areas.

Just think! All those people saved themselves one or two precious seconds by doing an absolutely lousy job returning their cart! One wonders what they will do with those one or two vitally precious seconds when they get wherever they are going? ;-) Probably nothing worth metioning...

I get your reasons for using the drive-through, VT. With those children in tow you are in a rather different situation than I am, so for you it makes sense. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: 3refs
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 01:10 PM

It's "Old Nippy" and it's great cheese! It has nothing to do with the "Nipper Tipping" they're doing in Eastern Ontario!

We speak "The Queen's(used to be King's)English!

Our identity is getting lost!

The latest I've heard is they want to call Halloween "Black and Orange Day"!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: meself
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:16 PM

Who wants to?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: RangerSteve
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:43 PM

For those of you who don't see the point in Drive-up windows, try being handicapped. And think about those folks with 5 kids, none of whom can decide what they want. If they were inside, they'd be holding you up, but they're outside, holding us handicapped folks up instead.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: kendall
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:52 PM

Sandy, why do you hate your daughter? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 05:44 PM

Kendall,
   I love my daughter and grand-daughter dearly but sometimes I really hate the way I proofread my posts! ;-}

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Janie
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 06:45 PM

I like drive-thru's whether they be banks or food/coffee.   I'm a single Mom working 2 jobs at 3 locations, long commute, have to ferry my kid to and from the private school he attends waaayyyyy out in the country, plus get him to drum lessons, lacrosse practice, etc. I don't like it, but that is the reality. When I actually have time to take a lunch break, it is spent running errands. After I have stood in line at the post office for 20 minutes during the lunch hour rush, running through the drive-thru at the bank, and then the local fast food joint for a salad and cup of coffee to eat at my desk while catching up on my office e-mail, means I actually get to eat, or get to go to the bank.

Now, on a Saturday morning, there is nothing I enjoy more than a stroll through the local farmer's market, and then a sit down cup of coffee and scone at a local cafe, either with a book, or with a friend I haven't seen for awhile. (Where I live, banks are not open on Saturday mornings or later than 5:30 during the week.)

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: 3refs
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:29 PM

The Toronto School Board wants to change the name!
^$#%^#$^.....I said that word!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:56 PM

Toronto has drive through schools?
A novel idea. Wish they had them when I was a lad.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:58 PM

This is a pizza thread.
It is not a drive-through thread.
It is not an English usage thread.
Those who fail to keep to the topic will have to suffer the consequences

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 08:13 PM

Fancy some Calzone Bob?

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Alice
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 08:26 PM

Pizza PIE

LOL

have not heard it called PIE since the 60's.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Janie
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 08:38 PM

Well, in that case, I much prefer to make my own. Homemade crust, sometimes thick and sometimes thin, lightly baked for a few minutes before adding the toppings to insure no sogginess or cardboard texture, tomato sauce well seasoned with garlic, basil, oregano, and just a pinch of finely crumpled bay leaf, mozzarella cheese from the deli- lots of it, and no "part-skim" please, cholesterol and fat be damned - and after the assorted toppings are added, a sprinkling of freshly grated Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese.

Sharp cheddar is reserved for for TexMex dishes.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 09:06 PM

Pie. Exactly. When I first heard of it, perhaps on a TV sit-com circa 1960, it was called pizza pie. By the time I actually ate my first slice circa 1970 it was just plain pizza. It would be an interesting folklore project to track the change in usage. Could be worth a Canada Council grant.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: bankley
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 09:34 AM

"when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore'

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 09:53 AM

Ten years later and Dean would've had to sing "when the moon your eye hits-a like a nippy cheese pizza".

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 12:52 PM

Nippy cheese. I make my own pizza most of the time, now. I make my own sauce from scratch using fresh herbs, and I make a whole wheat crust. I like blending the cheese if possible. Cheddar together with mozzarella is good. I have some buffalo mozzarella in the fridge waiting for the next time I make pizza. I'll probably mix that with pecorino romano (which in my opinion is as obligatory for making pizza as mozzarella). I'll probably use fresh peppers from my garden, and vidalia onions that I still have a few of from last spring (amazingly enough).   mmmmmmm this thread is making me want to make some pizza now.

I love drive through banking. I'm having some difficulty figuring out why anyone would not like drive through banking. It's not good for everything that one needs to do in a bank, but it's great for when I only need to make a deposit (which is most of my bank transactions).

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 01:05 PM

Mrs. A from Ontario

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 01:31 PM

From: Bob the Postman - PM
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 09:06 PM

Canada Council grant? Bob, what about the impact of cultural integration through immigration with reference to traditional cuisine? What about the art of presentaion of traditional cuisine within the framework of social acceptance to overcome bias against recent historical establishment of close-knit communities of immigrants and the resultant impact upon the overall social fabric of Canada and upon the social concience of Canadaians. What about....

We are gonna get rich!

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 01:35 PM

"Aitken, born Kate Scott in Beeton, Ontario, worked as an entrepreneur, teacher and journalist both before and after marrying local businessman Henry Aitken. As a journalist, she once interviewed Benito Mussolini."

Just as I suspected, she was a small town Ontario girl. Beeton is a small rural community about 40 minutes drive from Orillia, southwest of Barrie. It's still a pretty small town even now, so it must have been very small when Kate Scott was born there in 1891. It's basically a farming area. I used to go to Beeton for an open stage thing that was happening at a coffee shop there a few years back, and a lot of the local musicians would gather to play a few tunes.

Ms Aiken has that distinctive rural Ontario accent that was quite a feature back then, but seems not to be heard nearly as much now.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 02:03 PM

I know that one, LH. Laid back and sloooow. It's just about a half step ahead of a Saskatchewany talkin... real... ah... slow.

Whenemfellers comes downere, dey seemta getlost inaconversation.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 03:56 PM

Well there ya go ...... I 'm sure she was my kindergarden Teacher ... since Beeton is a 20 minute drive from Barrie where I was living at that time ... I must say my kindergarden teacher was the only teacher I never got along with .... she was just a tad bit too nippy.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 05:28 PM

Getting back to post number one, I have never seen a line up for pizza- everyone I know either 'phones the nearest pizza delivery outlet, or buys them frozen at the supermarket. We differ in that there is a family-owned Italian restaurant four blocks away; we 'phone in the order and drive over to pick it up.

We had a dog who was nippy, but we prefer our cheese sharp. In Canada, Armstrong's old, undyed cheddar is very good, but there are better- Balderson's, etc.

Line-ups- many were lined up for hours here in Alberta waiting for H1N1 shots. Now the vaccine has run out. We schedule our shots through our doctor (too old and decrepit to line up for anything), just hope she gets her supply soon.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 09:16 PM

Some of the best pizza I've ever had was in a family owned Italian restaurant somewhere in Ontario (probably Toronto, but I'm not sure).

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Nov 09 - 12:23 AM

'North Americans don't have enough patience to line up for miles.'

Amos, my husband's jo has often taken him to the San Francisco area, and he tells me that cars lined up for miles on the freeway is a common sight. They call it 'going to work.'

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Nov 09 - 06:43 AM

"Amos, my husband's jo has often taken him to the San Francisco area, and he tells me that cars lined up for miles on the freeway is a common sight. They call it 'going to work.'..."

Just who is Jo and why do you allow her so much time with your husband? And just what are they doing while they wait in line?


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 02 Nov 09 - 12:12 PM

If it needs to be investigated and ya want pictures, call me at 1-800-GET-CHIMP. I don't usually do divorce work, but the rent is due and I'm gettin' a bit desperate.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 03 Nov 09 - 09:40 AM

Nice try, Chongo, but thanks to the internet those pictures you're offering for sale are available on free download to anyone who googles HIDDEN CAM MY WIFE CUCKOLD.

Subject: RE: BS: U.S./Canadian culture exchange
From: meself
Date: 03 Nov 09 - 11:08 PM

"Ms Aiken has that distinctive rural Ontario accent"

The thing I found really distinctive in her accent was the drawled long "i"s - the cars were "laanned up for mawls" - I would never have identified that as rural Ontario, which, if anything, more usually has very "tight" "i"s - more like "lyeened up for myeles" (if you follow me). However, I haven't spent much time around the Orillia/Barrie area, so I might have missed something ....