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Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)

The Borchester Echo 19 Aug 06 - 04:16 AM
Ruth Archer 19 Aug 06 - 04:32 AM
The Borchester Echo 19 Aug 06 - 04:56 AM
GUEST,Jon 19 Aug 06 - 06:32 AM
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Lizzie Cornish 19 Aug 06 - 07:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 04:16 AM

Ah! Now I see. A Womad basher. That says it all. Come back when you've grown up. Maybe.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 04:32 AM

I'm not a "basher", just expressing an opinion of an event i've actually experienced. Which is more than you're able to contribute to the current debate.

Unpleasant? Honey, you've re-defined the word. My "filthy mitts" are all over the traditional music and dance you purport to love so much: I just got £17k from the Arts Council to bring traditional dance and music into local schools, delivered by some of the finest practitioners in the country. So I wonder which of us is contributing more to the health of the tradition?

There are plenty of people who know who i am and what i do - the fact that you don't means nothing. Crikey, i've totally sunk to your level and given you what you want: a fight. I'm removing myself from this now to deprive you of the oxygen of attention on which you so clealy thrive.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 04:56 AM

If the crumpet on a high seaside donkey is actually making such an important contribution to the tradition as it thinks it is (even though this seems to be at the expense of a dozen other projects starved of the Arts Council funding that s/he boasts of cornering), it would surely consider with as much disdain as I do the 'continuity and family', let's all be uncontroversially smug, middle-class R2 listeners attitude of the MOR punter who wouldn't recognise a Playford tune or a Child ballad if it bit them on the arse.

But that would involve reading and comprehending the drift, not single-word-nit-picking. I re-entered this thread to shoot down someone who was being gratuitously offensive in seeking to impose said hideous lifestyle and musical constraints on everyone attending a festival. Bizarre. And I'll continue to oppose that sort of censorious crap without anyone's 'permission'. To descend for a moment to somewhere approaching the crumpet's level (at whom the criticism was not originally aimed so I can't see what the fajitas it's going on about), Sidmouth was 'mine' before it was 'yours'.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 06:32 AM

with your family around you.. Is that such a crime? Only in some quarters apparently.

No pub lover but Diane seems (admitedly jumping in with her DMs on) to have taken exception to you saying:

That is what the world of folk should be about - continuity and family.

I would normally let that pass but as you do ask, I will say this. I can't say I'm fond of that statement. It's only a "qualifier" missing as far as I'm concerned. That maybe what the world of folkmusic is to you or what you feel it should be but it isn't that to me and I don't think it should be that.

The world of folkmusic to me is diverse with people with quite different tastes, ideas and backgrounds and it represents all. Saying it should be about the family is to me, exclusive and it would cut me out for one. That it can cater for the family, that events children enjoyed were at Sidmouth are IMO great plusses but not IMO a whole way the world of folk music is or should be.

The world of folk music to me is not about political activism either. In the main it provides me a way to finding, listening to , talking with, (best of all for me) playing music with other like minded people.

In some ways, in truth, my main motivation is the persuance of my own enjoyment and interests, I don't feel as if I need be on any crusade to make converts, I am selective in what I take out of it (eg. I don't like all that may be classed as folk by some or even agree that some stuff is folk music at all, people exist in the world of folk who next to nothing in common with me except the general banner "folk", etc.)

On the other hand, if anyone is interested, I try to share any bit of knowledge, experience, etc. I've had in my own very small way and try to put back into when I can and that too from my view point is something folk music should be about - that sort of sharing.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:00 AM

Diane,
I know you to speak to - we've met in person a few times at various festivals over the last few years. However, you have just become a bully online. I know you find Lizzie annoying, but I think I speak for most people on the BBC, fRoots and this this board in saying that you are far more of an annoyance - for most readers you are only barely being tolerated at the moment. Stop belittling other peoples lives and beliefs, and stop presenting your own as fact. Nobody cares where you used to work, or who you hung out with in the 60s if you use it as a weapon to beat other posters down. Your views are no more valid than anyone elses, and the majority of your postings are simply childish insults.

I have attended Sidmouth since the 80s, and this years was easily back up in "specialness" terms. I am neither smug or MOR. I am more than familiar with both Playford and Child. I AM middle class, but through no fault of my own.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:15 AM

I know who Joanie is Sweetums....leave her alone, she's doing far more for folk music than many other people....

The one thing that I've really enjoyed in this thread is reading how much everyone who DID come to Siddy HAS enjoyed it this year, and I'm really pleased about that. It'll be passed on to the people who organised it, although I'm sure many of them already have been reading what's been said. I'll bet it's made them feel great as well!

And Jon, I'd not get too pedantic about those words above. I think perhaps what was meant was merely that Sidmouth has a very special atmosphere, in that it is very safe for children and families in general...And you don't have to have children to be part of a family you know....we ALL belong to families of some sort or another.

I remember reading somewhere one of the more 'famous' folkies' Mum saying that she'd always felt that when her children were younger they were safe to wander round Siddy on their own, as there were people everywhere and so many wonderful things for the children to take part in. It DOES have a special atmosphere and the rest of the year round it is still a wonderful place for children to grow up.

There were just as many people here with their elderly parents as there were with their children, and people who were just down on there own as well...Sidmouth is for everyone, as are all folk festivals, but it is a lovely place to come with children.

And the folk festival community in general is hugely supportive, caring, peaceful and uplifting and there's nothing wrong with that. It is what our society in general is desperately short of right now...and I've said many a time that society has a great deal to learn from the folk world, for as Jan said, it IS about family (of all sorts), community and continuity....and long may that continue.....


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:29 AM

If, as someone said LC is on Prozac, what the fuck is CR on??
G


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:35 AM

I remember reading somewhere one of the more 'famous' folkies' Mum saying that she'd always felt that when her children were younger they were safe to wander round Siddy on their own, as there were people everywhere and so many wonderful things for the children to take part in. It DOES have a special atmosphere and the rest of the year round it is still a wonderful place for children to grow up.

That doesn't sound especially unusual to me and while I haven't been anywhere where there are "special childrens festivals", the forming of sort of "families" where people will keep an eye on other people's property, kids, even other adults if they've had a few to many... is familiar to me.

It strikes me that it might be something that is going though. A few years back, I had a Walkman stolen from some we thought to be "some of us", something you never used to dream of happening, I've read elsewhere that some festivals (and presumably larger more popular ones) have suffered from "tent thieves" who are buying season tickets to rob.

I'd like to think I'm wrong but I can't really imagine Sidmouth or anywhere being "special" enough to escape from this.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:37 AM

And Jon, I'd not get too pedantic about those words above.

Lizzie, I only responded as Pudlover asked and asked in a way which didn't really reflect what she had said (OK perhaps not meant to say) at first.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:45 AM

Well, I'm not even going to begin speculating who you are, Guest. If you actually were a friend you'd call or mail me like a normal human being. As I pointed out several posts back, I only re-entered this thread after a particularly smug and insulting post pontificating on how Sidmouth-goers should be family-orientated non-boat-rockers and status quo upholders from somehow who had just showed up and felt like preaching. In doing so I've not disclosed any details of my own lifestyle, present or past activities. Those who know me are aware of who I am, who I 'used to be' and what I do. Those who don't have no right to tell me how I should live, conjecture on how I might or - particularly in this context - tell me what I should think and do. Particularly when they can't be arsed to READ THE SODDING THREAD, but just pick out the odd word here and there. I've told no-one how they should lively up their lives (though could well have implied it) but will continue to have a lot to say to those with an appalling 'good enough for f*lk' lackadaisical approach and complete unawareness of and lack of respect for the tradition. Though not at the BBC. Haven't been there for ages since the forum got lost in MySpace. At fRoots I rip up misguided boorish anoraks before breakfast. I've reiterated several times what I used to find 'special' about Sidmouth and is absent now. Others say they are content, well, good for them. I'm not. What do you want me to do? Pretend? Lie? I don't do these things and thus retain self-respect.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:48 AM

That's OK Jon, but don't get led down Diane's road. It's being inferred that all sorts of things were meant by that comment, merely to start an arguement. I know Pudlover, very well, she has become a dear friend, purely because of Sidmouth you know! I'm sure that many other people have life-long friends because of Sidmouth too....

Yes, there was an instrument stolen from Sidmouth this year, I'm sure you read about it on here and on the BBC. It's happening all over the place, I think Annie put a piece from Steve Heap on the BBC board, saying that he's aware of these 'gangs' who are targetting folk festivals now...

Even more reason for us all to come together, as a community and as a nation, to first accept what is happening in our society and then to try and bring back some of the values and commnunity spirit that once used to be there.

And MacKenzie! Where were you hiding then????? ;-)

I'm not on Prozac...I'm on folk/roots music and Myspace! :0)

And now...we're off to Dartmoor to climb a few tors....


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:50 AM

. . . I just noticed that about a million posts back I put the demise of the old Sidmouth at 1994 instead of 2004. It just feels like that long ago . . .


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:51 AM

Uh Oh...Sweetum's woken up again! Never mind...she can have a field day in here whilst I'm having a Moor Day 'out there'....

;0)


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 07:55 AM

what the fuck is CR on??

Headache pills. To be succeeded shortly by a lot of vodka. And probably crack cocaine.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:02 AM

*yawn*


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:02 AM

Nice one Countess ¦¬]

Lizzie I was hiding from you, and successfully it would appear. I was hiding in full view in The Bedford The New Tavern, The Swan and The Anchor, among others!
Giok


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:09 AM

It's being inferred

Surely you mean implied: ferro ferre tuli latum, the most irregular of all Latin irregular verbs. Even that isn't quite right. 'Twas no 'implication' but a blatant attempt to impose Kinder Kirsche Kuche on the masses.

Yeah, I know who the crumpet is too. Trying to blag clogs all over the place. Why can't the little bastards buy their own?


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:13 AM

That's OK Jon, but don't get led down Diane's road.

No, Lizzie, my road is different to Diane's and I think always will be. I think I have more in common with her within "folk" than I have with you but that's as far as it goes.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:16 AM

that's as far as it goes

Phew!


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:17 AM

LOL


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 08:24 AM

That very nice Bob Walton has just reported on Sidmouth @ fRoots, from which I'm sure he won't mind if I reproduce the following:

Without the Arena, and all the benefits and problems it brings (the treadmill that Mrs Casey was continually tring to tame) the festival will never be the same, IMHO. Whether it can retain that unique Sidmouth atmosphere without that and the more international flavour remains to be seen: I guess there's a danger that it will turn into just another week long British Folk Festival. I sincerely hope not, but who knows.

So go and kick him instead. If you dare.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:05 AM

Sounds as though he is sitting on the fence there CR. He may have damned by faint praise, but it is very faint, as is his condemnation.
G.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: GUEST,pragmatist
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:09 AM

I miss the arena shows and the international teams, and agree that without them sidmouth has lost some of its special magic, but let's be realistic.
The reason that sidmouth was unique in these features is because no other organisers have had the nerve, or should that be foolhardiness, to mount something similar.
Before the collapse of the communist countries many of the foreign teams were heavily subsidised by their governments. Now they have to be paid for. The Arena infrastructure was a huge expense, and in wet weather lost money hand over fist.
The present organisers have done a marvellous job to keep the folk week going, having gambled their own money on the Bedford concerts, the Lastminute ceilidhs, the Ham etc. It might not be the old festival with its special magic, but it has given a lot of people a lot of pleasure.
Could the people complaining that sidmouth is now just another standard festival please make constructive suggestions about how a return of the arena could be financed.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:26 AM

In the rest of it, which you can read on the fR Letters Board, he goes on about having a lovely time blah blah blah, which I'm sure anybody could manage given the array of things to do. Point is that, like me, he doubts whether Sidmouth can be anything more than just another festival. That's not a bad thing to say and certainly not a matter for twisted knickers. Many people seem to like standardised festivals just as they apparently like shopping in high street chains. Just as you'll get the same stuff from any branch of Tesco, there's not much difference between what's on offer at Warwick, Priddy or Cleethorpes. Just visit your nearest branch for your trollyful of Watersons, Carthys, Lakepersons and Chumbawambas.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:29 AM

"Could the people complaining that sidmouth is now just another standard festival please make constructive suggestions about how a return of the arena could be financed."

You did read this didn't you CR?

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:31 AM

Could the people complaining that sidmouth is now just another standard festival please make constructive suggestions about how a return of the arena could be financed

I could. But it would be an extremely long diatribe on the iniquities of arts funding in general and I . . . really . . . can't . . . be . . . arsed.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:39 AM

"I . . . really . . . can't . . . be . . . arsed".

Until you can don't expect me to have any sympathy for your point of view.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:48 AM

Why should I have a point of view on funding? It's not my area and never has been. Artistic direction and stage management, yes. How to pay for it is someone else's problem. I could formulate the arguments to put to ACE (or anybody else with dosh) but I haven't (obviously) the patience to make up budgets and try and convince people who don't care that they should ,


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:00 AM

"Artistic direction and stage management"

I thought what you were saying was that what is put on at Sidmouth make it too run-of -the-mill.

You have experience in the fields you mention?

Offer you services to the organising team and make a more constructive contribution.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:17 AM

Well, of course, I could. I could say 'this is who I want to book and this is what I want to do and this is how I want to organise it. I'll need x-no of stages all under cover, x-no of crew, technicians, runners etc. Additionally, I need rehearsal space (so often overlooked) and cash on hand for props, costumes, day payments. You have the money upfront (not from box office receipts) to pay for venue hire, fees and expenses and accommodation that my faithful sidekick producer has detailed here, haven't you?'

I don't think they'd regard this as a 'constructive contribution'. Not until they'd sorted the funding hurdle.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:20 AM

you haven't the patience, or you haven't the skill? Fundraising is a highly skilled area, but the funding itself is so skewed in particular directions that getting funding for programming in festivals is VERY difficult. I've managed to get £4k towards my programme, but I was very crafty. I was told at the outset of the consultation process that funding for programming in festivals is rare as hen's teeth. And anyway, any funding achieved is year-on-year (must be re-applied for, with no guarantee of renewal) and you have to prove that what you're doing in subsequent years represents "new activity". The only reprieve from this loop is to become a Regularly Funded Organisation, and that is VERY hard. So The organisers of Sidmouth could re-introduce the arena one year, and not be able to achieve the funding for the next. The application process is long and labour intensive. For large-scale fundraising you really need a dedicated member of staff - I doubt the current committee would be in a position to create such a post.

It is incredibly easy to be flippant about all of these issues; addressing them in any meaningful way is another matter.

BTW, I presume the "iniquities" of the funding system refers to grants like mine, as you took a sidelong swipe at it earlier. Well, I played the game. I looked at the Arts Council's priorities and criteria, I consulted with my local office, and made sure my project was fulfilling a need, which is essential to a successful application. The system may be imperfect, but the key is not to get bitter and negative and instead try to make good things happen within its confines.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:36 AM

Thats strikes me as an Own Goal Diane.

You are saying that what you have to offer isn't going to be seen as helpful and I imagine that means you are not goiing to offer.

Therefore all your postings to this thread have been to no avail.

You haven't convinced the rest of us and you can't convince the festival organisers so the whole thing has been a waste of your effort and our time.

Goodbye!

Our paths (and swords?) will cross somewhere else in Mudcat I'm sure.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:37 AM

I have neither the patience nor the skill. I've already said that in no way would I involve myself in funding applications. I know about the long and intensive process from others who have been embroiled in it. I didn't 'take a swipe' at the grant you succeeded in getting, I merely drew attention to the fact that many, many other equally valid projects would have missed out because allocation is so unfair and the amount of money available so inadequate. Even if a fundraiser post, which I agree is desirable, were to be created I wouldn't be applying for it. My skills lie in spending the money effectively once in place, not worrying about where it's going to come from. And it's not going to get better without radical reorganisation of priorities at governmental level which result in vastly increased arts funding on a par with other European countries (and probably others but I don't have adequate information) where massive free festivals with municipal and national funding are the norm.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:41 AM

How much more simply can I put it?
Give me the money and I'll do it.
But they haven't got the money.
So what I say I want to do won't be seen as helpful.
Will it?


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:48 AM

. . . does anybody mind if I go out to . . . er . . . Tesco now?


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 12:18 PM

"Countess"--

Just what do you have against cherries? (Kinder, Kirsche, Kuche) (sic)

If you're trying to put us down through your erudition, you'd best proofread a bit more carefully.

And by all means go to Tesco--just please don't patronize Asda (now owned by Walmart).

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Gervase
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 12:24 PM

At fRoots I rip up misguided boorish anoraks before breakfast.
I think that says it all, really.
I can breathe a sigh of relief that, insofaras I am aware, my path and Diane's have never crossed. The internet may be a remarkable phenomenon, but it has alllowed rather too many people with Asperger's a free rein to show their bullying side under the cloak of anonymity.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 12:52 PM

Of course Sidmouth will be 'just like any other festival' as long as it books the same acts as all the other festivals seem to do. It may be just me, but every festival I look at seems to have Seth Lakeman, Coope Boyes and Simpson,Spiers and Boden, Flook etc.
Good acts they may be, but are folk festivals getting like our identikit high streets have become?
Giok


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:54 PM

I went to Sainsburys actually. And bought some cherries from the stall by the church. OK? No idea why I'm telling you this. I'm not anonymous. Far too many people know me, or presume to do so. Nor have I Asberger's. If I had I'd ignore all the shite some people come out with and be totally unaffected. As it is, I'm barracked by the literacy-challenged who are capable only of picking out words in isolation regardless of grammatical structure and context.

I've not been in Sidmouth for two years for oft-explained reasons. It's not written down anywhere that I must to go, nor that I should put up with a format I'm not satisfied with, nor that I must assume 'family and continuity' as a goddam motto. People keep forgetting, or more likely, have a compulsive urge, to put words into my mouth that I never said, the latest being that I am refusing to offer assistance to the organising committee with a funding application. It's because it's not what I DO, fer chrissake.

I come on forums (with decreasing frequency} to answer questions and impart information. Those who never bother to read what's gone before are one kind of irritant. More insidious is the boorish anorak who has detailed knowledge of one tiny area. You make a statement about whatever. Oh no, he says (jeez, isn't it always a he?) and launches into a hectoring diatribe that's entirely unrelated except for . . . yeah, it's that 'one-word' syndrome in another form. (I just said . . . ah, sodoff). If it's 'bullying' to snap at them to shut the fuck up occasionally, then I'm a bully.

'lizziecornish' has more pseudonyms and aliases than anyone on the internet. She's a random spam generating program, y'know, who has cloned all the posters who claim they 'know' her. When she's not embarrassing the hell out of performers that she's 'discovered' and fawns over with sycophantic inaccuracy, she's spreading inexplicable rumours like I and others were secretly in Sidmouth last year. None of us was. One such was the Editor of fRoots against whom she launched one of her most vicious hate campaigns. She imagines it irritates him greatly to call the mag 'Folk Roots' and does so at every opportunity yet when some poor punter asked where to buy a mag of this name (which it used to bear), she swooped in with her 'gypsy' cloak snarling that getting the name right might help. Oh, but it's not just me and him, it's anybody who actually knows more than her about music (and that's a lot of people) that she gets into a strop with when they don't agree that her latest fave is the best ornot agree with her about anything, really, from education policy (she knows best and home educates - jeez, can you imagine?) to what to do when she's finally driven her children to drink). She did a lot of that during the MySpace controversy when floundering about way out of her depth, even to the extent of telling a prestigious musbiz lawyer that Rupie Murdoch wouldn't screw artists (ha!)

So 'gervase', in your quest for bullying online pests, do cast your eyes in the right direction, there's a good chap.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:08 PM

"Countess"--


"Kinder, Kirsche..."--just be sure to proofread if you want to impress--or put us down. Otherwise it's just possible you may come across as an arrogant--but ignorant- prat.   And I'm sure we wouldn't want that.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:18 PM

I didn't buy any kitchens and certainly not any bloody children while I was out. What I'm eating out of a bag must, therefore be either churches or cherries. I don't really know or care that much. Or maybe they're hot cross buns. Or simnel cake. Or communion wafers. Ah, that reminds me, a bottle of Merlot . . .


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:22 PM

You mean there's a chance you actually may know what you say. That's a relief. Congratulations. That was close.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:23 PM

Now all you have to do is develop just a bit of tolerance.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:27 PM

Hello guys!

Gosh...Sweetums HAS been busy!! ;0)

First of all could I just comment on one of her remarks about helping with the organisatin of Sidmouth Folk Week, funding or indeed much else..

"I . . . really . . . can't . . . be . . . arsed".

EXACTLY!!

I'm sure I can hear the Directors of Sidmouth Folk Week possibly heaving a collected and huge sigh of relief from here.

However I think I should point out that unlike Diane, they DID bother to be 'arsed' over Sidmouth.

Indeed they barely sat down on their situpons for the whole of the end of last year or most of this year, as they worked their fingers, and their minds, to the bone, to ensure that Sidmouth Lives! And even during Sidmouth they were all dashing round most days, phones in hands, sorting things out, having daily meetings whilst most people were still asleep or munching their bacon sarnies....

If you've nowt to offer Diane, then possibly you ought to put your foot into your mouth, or your head up.........somewhere else.

With regards to Ian Anderson, I'll not be goaded into bringing Ian into any of this madness that you're pouring out on here, in the slightest way whatsoever, and that's all I've got to say about that.

Sidmouth Folk Week is it's own wonderful celebration of traditional/folk/roots music. It is NOT Sidmouth International Festival. It never set out to be that. It is new, has just had it's 2nd birthday and will go on to grow from a slightly troubled toddler who wobbles a bit on unsteady feet now and again, to a strong, striding adult, who knows exactly where it's going, with it's head held high and pointing in the right direction.

I'm afraid you can't go to Sidmouth International Festival anymore, so you'll have to mourn in private, where at least you may be able to keep your dignity.

We're loving OUR Folk Week, it is very, very special, mainly because it is OURS! It belongs to Sidmouth again...to the town and to all the people who've chosen to remain with it.

And now...it's time to make tea in my Sidmouth house...so..if you'll excuse me.....


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:28 PM

No, I'm not sharing my wine.
Get yourself down an identikit high street and get your own.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:34 PM

No, I'm not sharing my wine.!!!!


Who asked you too?


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:35 PM

Sounds like you'll soon be singing Show of Hands 'Cutthroats Crooks & Conmen'....or even 'Country Life' (!!!!!) ;0)


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:36 PM

Sorry Dave, my messge there was for Diane, just to avoid confusion.


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:38 PM

S'alright Lizzie.

I've got a bottle of my is all

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sparkling Sidmouth!! :0)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:39 PM

And 500!!


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