BS: Eysenck and Racism

Subject: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 02:29 PM

I am having an argument with a revolting racist on another forum, and I am seeking to support my statement that Eysenck's 1971 studies concluding that about 80% of a 15-point average difference between the measured IQs of black Americans and white Americans (in favour of the whites) was genetic were fatally flawed (I am aware of the fraudulent nature of Burt's statistics) and in particular I wish to support my view that they are now generally regarded as discredited.

Regrettably most of what I am finding is research funded by the Helms foundation and the Pioneer fund - not to mention Rushton, and some recent work by a Russian - all firmly in the racist camp.

Can anyone point me at a reliable summary of modern views in this area that rebut Eysenck (and Rushton) on this?

Subject: RE: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 02:48 PM

See this summary.

Also this review:

"RACE IN MIND: RACE, IQ, AND OTHER RACISMS

By Alexander Alland Jr. Palgrave MacMillan, 2002, 219 pp., $26.95 ISBN: 0-312-23838-X

Anthropologist Alexander Alland offers a comprehensive review of the recent history of research on race and IQ, offering critiques of the biological determinism of a number of theorists including Carlton Coon, William Shockley, Leonard Jeffries and others. He explains the basis of evolutionary genetics for the general reader and concludes that biologically, "race" cannot explain human variation.

Alland is the former chair of the anthropology department at Columbia University."

An interesting PDF file can be found here at U-Del.

Hope these help.

Subject: RE: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 03:17 PM

Even in the 60's, when I studied his material, the prevailing wisdom was that his results had too many confounding factors, mostly environmental to be considered anything more than an interesting study. His work is clearly not, however, definitive. The same can be said of "The Bell Curve."

Subject: RE: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 03:37 PM

This one might be useful Race and Intelligence: The Fallacies Behind the Race-IQ Controversy

Subject: RE: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:23 PM

The above led me to this

http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Nisbett-commentary-on-30years.pdf

THank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Eysenck and Racism
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 02:48 AM

Without adding a shred of information to this thread - back in the 70s he was known as "Eysenck you had better come along with us".
Jim Carroll