Poverty Knock please look at this

Subject: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 15 Aug 24 - 10:37 AM

Please take 20 minutes to watch this film. Although it was made for schools it is well worth your time.
I live in Lancashire in a cottage built about 1820. It was originally one up one down. The row housed the carters for the estate and the car park was once the stables. Upstairs there was once a loom for home working. The story of this short film is very likely relevant to those who lived here. I am in the process of researching Yorkshire song tunes for Steve Gardham's new book. One of them is 'Poverty Knock' I will admit to being rather ignorant about the Chartist movement in Victorian times. How lucky am I to sit in my armchair typing this request, with the lives of those who lived here contributing so richly to my comfort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obEbqksGXnY

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Aug 24 - 12:17 PM

Poverty Knocks attributed to Tom Daniel of course died in 1970 ~ Tom believed to have "remembered" the verses made up by the mill worker lasses ~ as far I know the tune was an original

A number of other songs sung by Tom and very likely still in Mick Haywood repertoire ~ from him

Bill Price died 1980, Wendy in Whitby both knew him very well

"Mary O Mary" has an interesting tune and Tom borrowed one or two tunes

Ray

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Aug 24 - 12:21 PM

The Yorkshire Garland song database has it says 120 plus songs and quite a range of tunes to go with them

Ray

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Aug 24 - 04:47 PM

i remember hearing Mick singing it at Batley raggers,and i thought i heard tommy sing it as well, but it was all a long time ago thanks anyway             Nick

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 15 Aug 24 - 09:59 PM

https://londoncelticpunks.wordpress.com/2024/03/27/chumbawamba-english-rebel-songs/

Thomas

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock please look a this
From: r.padgett
Date: 16 Aug 24 - 03:07 AM

Humour in adversity ~ Tom also had "Old Jim Slack" and "Young Simon John" there is song "Long Tom" also

Families had to move from the country way of life, which was bad enough and depicted in Nic's film clip as the work available was little. As in Dalesman's Litany move to big cities and break back work in factories and bad employers

Ray