Poverty Knock in Halifax film

Subject: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,Len Kennington
Date: 05 Mar 23 - 11:45 AM

Just been watching a very short film on Halifax in the late 60s. no score, but the last two minute feature a very good unaccompanied rendition of "Poverty Knock" Anyone recognise the folk-singer? (NB probably only plays in the UK - sorry)      
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-this-town-1969-online

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Mar 23 - 12:07 PM

Looks good. I shall watch it all when I get chance. In the interim, thre credits at the end say "With the help of Elizabeth Evans, John Fox, Paul Hughes, John Jones and the people of Halifax"

Any of those names ring a bell?

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M
Date: 05 Mar 23 - 03:28 PM

Brian Dewhurst?

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 23 - 01:30 PM

He's a Lancashire lad though. I would have thought someone more local to Halifax.

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M
Date: 10 Mar 23 - 05:31 PM

John Foxx born in Chorley, Lancashire, England. His father was a coal miner and pugilist, his mother a millworker. He attended St Mary's Primary and St Augustine's Secondary schools.[4] During his youth in the 1960s he embraced the lifestyle of a mod and a hippy.[5] He experimented with tape recorders and synthesisers while on a scholarship at the Royal College of Art in London.

HHis first band called Woolly Fish formed circa 1967 whilst at art college in Preston.

Prior to 1973 he was singing and playing a 12-string guitar and occasionally supported Stack Waddy in Manchester, from which he later moved to London in order to escape what he saw as a lack of musical stimulus

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M
Date: 11 Mar 23 - 03:48 AM

source above was wiki
john foxx (born Dennis Leigh; 26 September 1948) could this be john fox mentioned in credits

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 03:35 PM

I would have thought if was the "xx" one he would have made sure that it was spelled right in the credits but you never know.

Out of interest, the song in question was collected from Tom Sykes Daniel, a weaver from Batley, Yorkshire. In the film the line "I know I can guttle, when I hear my shuttle go poverty, poverty, knock." Is sung incorrectly. Whether that helps or hinders, I have no idea!

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 06:30 PM

I remember Tommy Daniels, he used to go to Mick Haywoods club in Batley.

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Mar 23 - 06:07 AM

I was from t'other side o th'ills so didn't get to Yorkshire much. I remember the name Mick Haywood though. Did he have something to do with Whitby?

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Mar 23 - 08:20 AM

Mick and Anjie are still in Whitby and Mick is still singing ~O and so is Wendy Price with family close by ~ Bill and Wendy knew Tommy very well

Ray

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Mar 23 - 08:42 AM

Ahhhh - Thanks. I know I knew him from somewhere :-)

Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Hagman
Date: 04 Apr 23 - 11:41 PM

The Tom Daniel original recording from 1965 is available here as part of a wonderful 2-CD set. There is a substantial accompanying book available as well. (And Tom's version is NOT the one in the film, BTW....)