BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???

Subject: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 08:53 PM

Okay, I gotta admit that every time I see Cindy McCain I think of "Blade Runner"...

Anyone else think she might be a replicant???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:06 PM

I think she might be a Reptilian.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:30 PM

What the hell is a replicant?

Most organic life forms replicate one way or another, y aknow....



A

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:31 PM

I have been trying to avoid ...even to myself... making Mrs. McCain an issue. She is so ummmm..."overdone" and plastic-looking most of the time, that I can only attribute it to trying to be worthy of her money. I HAVE heard her speak a couple of times where she sounded almost human though, so I guess I'll just avoid thinking about her most of the time........except when I have this vision of her giving media tours of the White House after redecorating it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:36 PM

Well, I'll join Amos. I don't know what a Replicant is.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:48 PM

She is a Republican't

Replicant

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:50 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:51 PM

the McCains

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:54 PM

All this about fictional robots and nothing about Rick Fielding!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 09:55 PM

Cream foundations offer great coverage but tend to emphasize lines and wrinkles. She should stick with a tinted moisturizer or an easily blended liquid base. A mineral foundation powder would give her a more healthy, even glow. She should stay away glitter and heavy shimmers in her eye shadows, and should stick to matte colors and possibly a frosted shadow. She's not always careful to smudge the liner into the lash line as she should.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 10:03 PM

goD!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 10:11 PM

Don't worry Riginslinger, I used to be a lumberjack and I'm okay.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 10:38 PM

Attacking the women again I see, Bobert.

Why do you have to make a monster out of everyone you don't like, hmmmm?

Why can't you just disagree with their policies, and allow everyone to be human?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 10:42 PM

Jaysis, Heric--I had no idea!!! :D

WIley -- chill a bit.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 12:33 AM

Geebers Wiley!

Do you think there is a chance he might have been joking?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:14 AM

good grief, i just looked at the pic jack put up, of 'lady mc cain' jeez, i think i saw her in a domination bdsm site!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:16 AM

i went to the site...its her!!...its her!!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 06:59 AM

OK, time to start a Bash Obama's Wife thread...

Chill out yourself, Amos.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 07:01 AM

Yeah,

No one ever bashes Obama's wife! Its time to be fair and balanced!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 07:01 AM

*Grmppph#@$&%bble* Cindy McCain is closer to a Stepford Wife than a Replicant -- she's a replacement for John's first model (literally), Carol, whose body was disfigured in a horrible traffic accident while John was a POW. She even lost several inches in height due her injuries. When John came home and found that his trophy wife was no longer a trophy, he began cheating on her, searching for and eventually finding a younger, slimmer, blonder, richer, undamaged version. He left the first one to endure her physical pain and permanent disability and ongoing medical treatment and emotional anguish alone.

I first heard this story a couple of months ago on a Philadelphia (Pennsylvania) talk radio station, because Carol McCain grew up there. The radio host interviewed the doctor who had operated on her on Christmas Eve into Christmas Day 1969 -- a story I found amazing because of her survival after being thrown from her car through the windshield into the snow and lying there (for an ambiguously long time) with severe injuries before being found and treated.

Here are a couple of articles about Carol's ordeal:
Wikipedia - "Carol McCain"
The wife John McCain left behind
St. Petersburg Times article

It makes my blood boil whenever I hear McCain's political commercials brag about his selflessness and his moral character. There are plenty of other stories about McCain's self-serving ways, but this one beats all the rest.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 07:07 AM

Washington Post:

A Quiet Humanitarian
By Michael Gerson
Wednesday, July 23, 2008; Page A15

KIGALI, Rwanda -- Cindy McCain's first visit to this country, in 1994, was during the high season of roadblocks and machetes and shallow graves.

Following a call for help from Doctors Without Borders, McCain had assembled a medical team with the intention of setting up a mobile hospital in Rwanda. Arriving by private plane in mid-April, a couple of weeks into the massacres, she realized that the chaos made deploying her team impossible. At the airport, she paid for the use of a truck and set out for Goma in then-Zaire, where hundreds of thousands of refugees were also headed.

"I never saw anyone harmed," McCain recalls, "but I saw the bodies along the roadside." Checkpoints were manned by 12- and 13-year-olds with AK-47s. "The kids were drinking -- bottles of Guinness, I remember. They would point their guns at you. They wanted money. We paid." Along the way, she picked up several abandoned young people, later turned over to the care of an Irish charity.

"You could see the chaos, hear the shots, hear the screaming. You could smell it." What, I asked her, could you smell? "The smell of death," she replied.

Arriving across the border in Goma, in what is now Congo, McCain found cholera victims stacked beside the road "like highway barriers." "I remember having to step over the decomposing body of an infant, covered with white powder, lime I guess, to get into one building." The field hospital covered four acres. McCain's team provided primary care for sick and frightened refugees, many of them suffering from dehydration. For nearly a month, McCain organized deliveries of food and water for the operation, collecting supplies at the Goma airport.

"I have never seen anything like it before," she says, "and never since. . . . When I came home, I couldn't put it into words for my husband."

The rushing return of these memories came on Cindy McCain's first visit to Rwanda since the genocide. In the shadow of Barack Obama's world tour, McCain joined a bipartisan delegation -- including former Senate majority leaders Bill Frist and Tom Daschle -- organized by the ONE Campaign, a group that advocates for the fight against global poverty and disease. (I am also involved in the efforts of ONE.)

McCain came back to a very different Rwanda -- peaceful, well governed, and making, with American help, some of the most rapid progress in the history of public health. "What has struck me," says McCain, "is that most people are reconciling. A woman I met was gang-raped [during the genocide], her throat was slit, she lost her whole family, but was willing to forgive. The reason this will be a successful country is the women -- some of the strongest, most inspiring women I have ever met."

Given her history of humanitarianism, these adjectives might be associated with McCain herself. The election of her husband would also bring to the White House an adventurous, traveled, intriguingly fearless first lady. Over the years, McCain has taken medical services to a Sandinista stronghold after Nicaragua's civil war; set up a mobile hospital near Kuwait City while the oil wells still burned from the Persian Gulf War; helped in Bangladesh after a cyclone. And while in that country in 1991 she found her daughter Bridget in an orphanage -- "She really picked me," McCain insists. Sometimes the desire to save every child is properly concentrated on a single child.

Like most of Cindy McCain's life, these stories are generally hidden behind a wall of well-tailored reticence. She values the privacy of her family and resents the intrusiveness of the media. None of her relief work has been done for political consumption or Washington prominence. On the contrary, it has been an alternative life to the culture of the capital -- the rejection of the normal progress of a senator's wife. "It is not about me -- it never has been. I felt it was important -- that I had to do it. I never took government money. It was my own, and I am not ashamed of it."

But all this would have political consequences in a McCain administration. Even if a first lady is not intrusively political, the whole White House responds to her priorities. Cindy McCain has had decades of personal contact with the suffering of the developing world. And in some future crisis or genocide, it might matter greatly to have a first lady who knows the smell of death.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 07:15 AM

Love Child

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 07:38 AM

Yup, Bruce, Cindy Lou was/is quite a humanitarian. It doesn't erase the personality quirk that caused her to have an affair with a married man who was a noted philanderer but, hey, she was 25 at the time. More troubling is her addiction to painkillers 10 years later that caused her to engage in criminal behavior: stealing drugs from her own medical charity and forging prescriptions. I haven't found any info that says whether she still struggles with addiction problems or whether they're not an issue for her anymore.

Snopes has a short bio with the good and the bad (but, of course, there ain't no ugly!): Snopes.com -- Cindy McCain

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:10 AM

The problem I have with all these Obama lovers who keep saying they are for Obama because he represents a change in how politics and the game is conducted, is they are two faced hypocrites.

On the one hand, they complain about the dirty tricks and tactics of Karl Rove, et al, but then they turn around and do the exact same thing themselves.

Political opponents aren't "our enemies". They are simply political opponents.

Unless, of course, hate is one of your main values, which it does seem to be for many who post in this forum.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:13 AM

Gol danged, bruce...

Michelle Obama has been put thru the ringer allready... She's had her words twisted beyond recognition... She's been portrayed as sopme kinda Angela Davis on a cover of a national magazine...

I didn't start this thread to bash Cindy McCain... I started it because I thought it would be somewhat humorous given the stoic nature of the lady... But seems there are a lot of Bush apologists who consider themselves the Bush/McCain protectors here in Mudville who take life so seriously that they don't even get a joke...

Like Amos said, ya'll need to chill out...

B

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:17 AM

No, I don't need to chill out. You, Amos, et al need to stop acting like jerks when you participate in political discussions in web forums.

I'm quite certain you don't normally engage in this sort of hate mongering with your church groups, work colleagues, relatives and friends, clients, etc so why do you do it here?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 01:26 PM

Hey Wiley,

Get really really angry :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 01:36 PM

a replicant republican't is a good foundation for a cartoon.

I did Laura as a robot but Cindy is more of a Hasbro product.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 02:00 PM

Nah, not angry. Just annoyed as f**k sometimes at the never-ending circularity of partisan fighting, whining, and sniping at one another.

Now, if we'd like to talk something amusing at Republicans' expense that doesn't involve any of the above, how about the entertainment value of the brewing Ron Paul Counter Convention? Divided they fall?

This is a story just beginning to brew (haha), from the Boston Globe:

Ron Paul, the iconclastic former Republican presidential hopeful, announced today that he will hold a rally at the Target Center in Minneapolis on Sept. 2, as the GOP holds its convention across the river in St. Paul.

His supporters hoped to get him a speaking role at the GOP convention, but that does not appear likely. So instead he is planning the counter-convention, and has made entreaties with Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr. Paul was the Libertarian candidate in 1988.

Paul plans "grassroots and leadership training events" on Aug. 31 and Sept. 1, in addition to the all-day Target Center event with speakers including Grover Norquist, Tucker Carlson, Gov. Gary Johnson, Barry Goldwater Jr. and Bruce Fein

Paul's campaign said there has been enough interest in the "Rally for the Republic" to move it from the smaller Williams Arena to the 18,000-seat Target Center.

"The Rally for the Republic will send a powerful, positive message to the Republican Party that there is an army of grassroots activists across the country ready to work with them if steer back to their traditions of limited government and personal liberty," spokesman Jesse Benton said in a statement.

The Texas congressman, who opposes the Iraq war and is a libertarian on economic issues, drew an avid following during the Republican primaries. He won 1.2 million votes and raised nearly $35 million. His campaign said the Campaign for Liberty, formed June 16 when he ended his presidential bid, has attracted over 71,000 members.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 03:27 PM

Congratulations, GUEST,WileyC! Your posting history shows that the post in which you called Bobert a "hate monger" was only your fourth post to this forum! If there were some sort of award for the GUEST who is presumptuous enough to insult a long-time member within the fewest number of posts, you'd win!

No, wait! Is it just possible that your appearance on this thread is not actually your first venture onto Mudcat? Could you possibly be (Oh! Perish the thought!) a member of the dreaded Sockpuppet clan? Naw! Couldn't be! Sockpuppets are again' the rules here, aren't they?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 03:37 PM

I posted the Karl Rove thing to show what real hate mongering looked like. Folks here aren't trying to influence any one Mr. WileyC (Coyote). It like a few friends joking around the water cooler. But you know that. You obviously aren't expressing real concerns. You are trying to bully Bobert into thinking twice before he posts again. Let me tell you something. It ain't gonna happen. It should not happen.

Here's another thing. Interesting post about Ron Paul. It deserves its own thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: TIA
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 03:45 PM

The appearance of lansing in this thread reveals all you need to know about any other sockpuppets who might appear.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 03:57 PM

She did clear a cool several million dollars of stock profits with the Budweiser sale to InBev.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:23 PM

Wiley, do you think any of the major 'news' outlets would even dare report your story? the first i've heard of it, is on here. thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:26 PM

Speaking of replicants.

I love Annie Lennox's makeup in this video.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:29 PM

A friend of ours its a Paul supporter.
He'll enjoy seeing this.

Is MSNBC not "major" enough for you Lansing?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Skivee
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:38 PM

It's a shame that Ex-presidential-candidate-to-be Bobert little joke has been taken so seriously and ponderously by our visiting/resident conservatives*** AND *** so seriously and iconicly by our resident liberals.
It was a small joke. If I had a gallon of gas for every lame Bill/ Hillery Clinton joke that my conservative pals have sent me over the past 16 or so years, there would be plenty to burn for centuries. The same goes for George Bush jokes/cartoons that get lauded here as if they explore new fields of analytical profundity. Most humor of both camps seem to have the subtlety of, ...of, ...of something that is not subtle.
Where's my Budweiser?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,lansing
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 04:51 PM

thank you...still heard it first on here, though..

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:03 PM

What my former campaigtn manager says an' if ya' don't like it send me yer address and Chongo sill make a personalized visit and re-explain it...

Meanwhile, I'm workin' on a big poster with a turtle on it to hold up at a McCain rally where Cindy is in attendence... We are going to get to the bottom of this...

Right, Skivz???

And fir the record, I'm holdin' a counter convention myself but we ain't servin' no Bud... Maybe the other bud but not Budwieser...

No sir... That stuff never made Bud wiser... Plus, didn't a Dutch firm just buy Budweiser??? And if so how is SWtroker Ace gonna drive the Budwieser/Halliburton/Harken Pontiac with them wood shoes???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Skivee
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:09 PM

Bobert Ol' buddy, ol' expresidenshul-candidate-to-be, Them wooden shoes is a good idea. they'll make it easier to crush the beer grapes.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:13 PM

Belgium buddy, Belgium.

Now all of the Bud sold in world is going to be just a little bit Flemmish.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:14 PM

BWL, thanks for educating us about the term "sockpuppet."

We've all seen representatives of this species 'round here, but this is the first time I've encountered the right word for 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:22 PM

Last time I checked, the Boston Globe qualified as "a major 'news' outlet" Major Lansing, Sir.

There is no shortage of folks around here who, if they aren't engaged in sockpuppetry, are regularly engaged in other internet dysfuctions such as trolling, flamebaiting, and kickin' the dog and slappin' the bitch sorts of mischief, particularly in the political threads.

It is also relatively easy to predict who these people are, by looking at who it is keeps initiating these sorts of threads over and over and over.

Click on the name 'Bobert' and it is pretty quick and easy to tell this is a person with a penchant for starting this sort of flamebait trollery thread, to trip the triggers of the resident Republicans.

And what good does that sort of divisive, hateful behavior serve in a folk music forum?

Cheap entertainment for some, at the expense of some others.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:28 PM

And Wiley would be... the sockpuppet calling the kettle argyle? :-D

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:31 PM

Chill out, Wileypuppet...

First of all, you been postin' here for what??? Two days and in that time you have had time to go thru my 12,000 or so posts and check which threads I started and which ones I just posted to??? Geeze, ol' sockster, you must be bushed (haha)...

But nevermind that, yeah, I admit that I don't like Bush's policies one bit... Which ones do you like???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:32 PM

This is more to my taste, actually. ;-)

http://www.puppetworld.com/makepuppets.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:36 PM

But for those of you with a preference for tartan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvmLdLlpBA

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:45 PM

Who gives a damn? Last I heard, she wasn't running for anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:49 PM

Let's keep it musical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkREplnhzkg

Subject: RE: BS: Is Cindy McCain a 'Replicant'???
From: GUEST,WileyC
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 05:56 PM

And for your bluegrass fans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbSJcUYx4A