BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 06:50 PM

M.Ted: Your thoughts are truly kindhearted and idealistic. However, the authorities did just the right thing---the allowed the construction of the Succa and they also allowed---under 1st ammendment and property rights---the homeowners signs. The police are not, thankfully, the arbiters of what is or is not permitted under the law---they merely enforce it.

         You might look at my comments above---I do, however, agree with an earlier poster---so much to scroll up to---that said more details were needed before we claim bigotry and racism---were the neighbors informed, what was the intent of the neighbors, what was verbally exchanged between the parties, and so on. Damn---I am sounding like a lawyer---probably would have more $$$ if I were---but would have lost a lot of idealism.

         May I add, on a light note, Tom Paxton had a wonderful song---10 Million Lawyers and Other Disasters.


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:15 PM

Are you still a religious bigot if you think all relligions are equally superstitious?

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:27 PM

I wish everyone would stop calling me a moron and a bigot. There is a lot of anti-penguin prejudice going on here. All I said was that religious practice and the belief in a superior being defies rationality. I am neither papist nor Iranian. I am a British penguin and our head of state, Liz Windsor, has been chosen by God to govern us, evidently; although I think this is not quite so readily believed nowadays.

I must admit, I don't follow American politics that closely, but I understand that a lot of fundamentalist christians believe in the existance of the State of Israel as a prerequisite for the coming of the Lord. On the other hand, they also believe that unless Jews accept that Christ died on the cross for their sins, they will go straight to hell. So they are both pro-Israel and anti-semitic at the same time. Christians: Doncha just love 'em?

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:30 PM

"goyische kup" = "non-jewish mind".

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:42 PM

I couldn't make this link into a clicky. Please note that the only overt antisemitism in any of the letters is expressed against Arabs.

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=1057C9A9F5208F5B&p_docnum=1&p_theme=gannett&s_site=thejournalnews&p_product=WJNB

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:44 PM

The above link is from the Rockland Paper Rabbi Sol mentioned.

There is certainly bigotry in all communities.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:48 PM

Thank you McGrath!

It means nothing more than that!

Guest, Howard stained his underpants for virtually nothing.

But I get a feeling he walks around that way frequently.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Alonzo M. Zilch (inactive)
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 07:54 PM

Martin Gibson,

You might think the JTA is bullshit, but it's the wire service used by every major Jewish newspaper in North America.

Trust me, I'm part of the community.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:04 PM

They don't know jack, Zilch.

They are spinners also.

This thing is way to close to call.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: GUEST,Howard
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:07 PM

Martin would you like a top hat and cane to go with your tap dance?

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:14 PM

Guest Howard. You are boring.

And you steal other people's lines.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 09:51 PM

List of Yiddish Words and Expressions

http://www.pass.to/glossary/gloz1.htm#letg

"Goyishe kop - Opposite of Yiddishe kop. Generally used to indicate someone who is not particularly smart or shrewd. (Definitely offensive.)"

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: M.Ted
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 09:54 PM

I respectfully disagree with you, BillH--the police may not decide what is protected speech and what isn't--they may take certain actions or refrain from taking certain actions based on what there understanding of the law is, but they can be, and often are, wrong--sometimes, they refrain from acting because, though the law may be violated, the prosecutors are not disposed to pursue any legal action--

The right to post signs in your yard is not an absolute right, and can be abridged for any number of reasons--there is precedent for the idea that if there is an element of harassment or racism, then it isn't protected speech--from what we have been told, there is evidence that this is the case--

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 11:58 PM

Gee, I've missed a lot of excitement here.

I was fully aware that it was strange there were both pro-Bush signs and pro-UN signs in this situation.

So the neighbors are confused bigots. They're bigots nonetheless. It seems the Orthodox community might want to take this into consideration.

Don't worry about courageous "Martin" calling me names. I give everything he says all the respect it deserves, but unfortunately no more than that. Sorry if that disappoints him.

Subject: RE: BS: Religious Bigotry In New Hempstead, NY
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 04:10 AM

I love Jackie Mason, Martin! I like you too. You both make me laugh:-) I don't think either of you are as funny as Ben Elton though.

Cheers

DtG