BS: Political education and voting

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Apr 23 - 07:34 AM

What reputable news organizations like the GUARDIAN, NYT and the WP have in common is VERIFICATION.

What Murdoch and Consevative rags do is engage in DEVERIFICATION, in other words taking verified settled facts and attacking it to induce doubt and suspicion. Remember 'alternative facts'?

On a personal level I know a usual suspect who employs deverification to call into question that I am a reasonable person in hopes to discredit certain facts.
Deverification is a specific kind of lie.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Apr 23 - 10:46 AM

Rachel Maddow took the time to explain that process on her program last night. It's what is happening as far as mifepristone and being approved in a 5-year process that concluded over 20 years ago. Yet now it is suspect, based upon lies of those who want to deverify it, and they're running on the energy of the anger that they have generated.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Apr 23 - 11:23 AM

I don't mind the deletions, Maggie, but am rather concerned that you didn't see the smear in the 07.34 am post. Your gig.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Apr 23 - 03:23 PM

Its good to know the truth and speak it.
Its better to know the truth and speak of palm trees.
Arab proverb.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 23 - 10:06 AM

My old boss used to have a good saying.

If you can't blind 'em with science, baffle 'em with bullshit

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Apr 23 - 10:44 AM

In our local elections none of the candidates have filled out any of the public information forms that tell us what they stand for or want to do. They're small elections, but they matter to my village. Maybe they assume we all know who they are? One lives next door to me and had a huge Trump sign on his house in 2020. I'd like to know a lot more about the other guy he's running against.

The candidates need education in this instance.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 23 - 01:23 PM

Blimey, Stilly. How does anyone know who to vote for if the candidates don't have a manifesto?

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Apr 23 - 04:27 PM

The US has been educated to the degree that fascism is undesirable to a thin majority. The pendulum has stopped and will swing the other way toward Democracy. Terrorism or unconstitutional fraud will still try to overthrow the majority in upcoming years. My warning of the rise of fascism is done. It would take a global recession for the right to gain the upper hand. Trump can be the nominee again and fail by a larger margin.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 May 23 - 12:16 PM

Politics is damned depressing, with how strong the minority of GOP zealots have gerrymandered districts so they can actually win elections. It's time to federally block that kind of district line drawing.

Still no information about candidates in the village. I'll vote for the other guy (my neighbor told he me was asked to run because there wasn't much to offer on the ballot - I think that's code for a GOP person doesn't want a Democrat in office.) And on the separate ballot they're all stinkers. In a big river development project there isn't a single scientist or academic with knowledge of the process or environmental impact, just Realtors who are in it for the profits they can make buying and selling river frontage.

Bleh. But I will vote. They're trying to pass laws now regarding dropping people off of the roles if they don't participate regularly. More Texas voter suppression crap.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Donuel
Date: 03 May 23 - 11:30 PM

Among the six conservative Supreme Court Justices they have received about 16 million dollars of favors from some firms that have appeared before the court. Also all 6 were supported by the Federalist Society that got 1.6 Billion dollars (a record contribution) of political donation money. Its legal because no ethic laws apply to the court.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 May 23 - 04:57 AM

The problem is Don, you speculate and make so much stuff up I don't know whether what you just quoted is fact or fiction.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 May 23 - 05:01 AM

It would help if posters included links to their sources. It’s simple enough to do, I really don’t understand why some people won’t do it. And Don’s far from being the only one…

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Donuel
Date: 07 May 23 - 12:36 PM

There is value for BS becoming a links only category with exceptions for three old threads, MOAB, Declutter and Brexit.
Journalists have never exaggerated or taken a controversial POV. Nor have they ever gotten a number wrong. Posting links only should eliminate your distress. It will save thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 May 23 - 01:06 PM

I used to think it was my lack of understanding but, on reflection, you don't half talk shite, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 May 23 - 01:10 PM

Who, apart from you Don, has suggested ‘posting links only’? I’ll tell you - nobody. I recommend you to take English Comprehension classes.

Subject: RE: BS: Political education and voting
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 May 23 - 03:37 PM

I never read links-only posts. I regard this to be a discussion forum.