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Subject: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 08 Apr 99 - 12:16 AM How about fixin me up with a list of riverboat songs y'all? my favorites are Delta Queen Waltz, Glendy Burke, What Does the Deep Sea Say...I'll take lyrics and midis...and history and jokes of course, Art! harpgirl |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 08 Apr 99 - 12:59 AM Harp, first let me congratulate you in front of everyone for winning the autoharp competition at the big Florida folk bash---which one was that again? Way to go, kid! I think I've posted all the riverboat stuff I've got in other threads. Sorry!! Only kidding! Mike Fink had a bet with a fellow that he could jump the Mississippi. He stood on the bluff, came tearing down the slope and got a good head o' steam up before he L-----E-----A-----P-----E-----D !!!!!!!!! Half way across, he realized he couldn't make it, so he turned around and went back. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 Apr 99 - 01:07 AM Harpgirl: What you really need is a copy of May Wheeler's Steamboatin' Days, a wonderful collection of Ohio river boatman songs published around 1940. If you can't find one in your library, or get one on interlibrary loan, let me know. I have an extra copy I could lend you for awhile. I've been singing "Rowdy Soul," "Hoo, Hoo, Didn't I Do," "Come, Love, Come," and others from this book (often with extended texts drawn from other songs in the book) for years. It's a great source! Also, check out Bob Dyer's "Big Jim Johnson," "Huckleberry Finn," "River of the Big Canoes," and others. Bob's songbook is out-of-print right now, but he has a CD available. He's from Boonville, Missouri, right on the big river and is a fine historian/songmaker. His good friends Cathy Barton and Dave Para have also recorded several of his songs, plus "Bayou Sara" and a few other riverboat songs. Then, and importantly, there's old "Condom Art's" cassette of river songs that he sang while hosting and hoodwinking the tourists on the lovely old Julia Belle Swain (now doing cruises out of LaCrosse, Wisconsin). You can surely get a copy of Art's cassette direct from him, now that he's unpacked his stuff and settled into his new digs. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 08 Apr 99 - 01:23 AM "Delta Queen Waltz" by Mr. John Hartford is simply a beautiful song. And those multiple fiddles are about the most lush and delicious sound I've ever heard on a recording. John is a damn genius, and that's all there is to it. Some of his phrases and imagery are simply brilliant. My favorite phrase in this particular song has to be: "LIKE A PRESENT HEREAFTER"!! What a marvelous way to say that something is just heavenly---and it's right "here and now"---not pie in the sky. We do (me thinks) make our own heaven and hell. See __The Book of Thomas__ which some maneuvered to keep out of the Bible. Sorry for the digression. On the river, if ya go with the flow you'll find the grandest adventures. Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 Apr 99 - 02:43 AM Hartford's "Old Time Riverman" is another fine song, also recorded by the Mudcat's own Rick Fielding, who includes another fine riverboat song, "Lifeline" by Glen Reid, on his CD. In fact, that's the title song of the recording! I realize that "roustabout songs" are not exactly what you're after, Harpgirl, but many of them also mention the names of various famous old steamboats. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Brian Hoskin Date: 08 Apr 99 - 03:10 AM I agree with Sandy, get hold of a copy of Mary Wheeler's 'Steamboatin' Days' - here's the full reference: Wheeler, M. (1944) Steamboatin' Days: Folk Songs of the River Packet Era. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press. Brian
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: dwditty Date: 08 Apr 99 - 05:12 AM JJ Cale has a song called "Riverboat Song" on his Travelocity CD. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Liam's Brother Date: 08 Apr 99 - 06:08 AM Hi Art! Liam's Sister-in-Law holds the distinction of having attended every Mystic Sea Song Festival; I think that will be 20 consecutive this year. She and her friends sing "water" songs as The Johnson Girls. I would like to get her a copy of your river songs tape. How do I do that?
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Apr 99 - 06:20 AM Hi Harpgirl, With Art and Sandy "on the case" I don't know how you could get any better advice...I'm making notes here too. Ijust chimed in to echo Art's congratulations on your win. Sometimes I miss things (uh,huh...)but some should not be missed...like saying Great Job when someone has done one. I give you my highest award...5 'ATTACATS!!! catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 08 Apr 99 - 10:08 AM I hate to be a killjoy, but I've always felt that Mary Wheeler first picked up and then dropped the ball in her too small book, "Steamboatin' Days". Most of the songs are fragments at best. The info on the informants is very scant and in the case of a woman she only calls "Nancy" the only photo show the BACK of an Afro-American woman. I think it's a strange book. But Dillon Bustin and others have taken the fragments therein and made some wonderful and very singable songs out of them. Check out Dillon Buston's LP---don't know if it's on CD yet. But it could be I'm confusing Dillon's record with the fine tapes Sandy and Caroline made of him sittin' around in the glorious setting of Pinewoods Camp in Mass. several years ago. Many of those songs seem to be as much Dillon as they were Wheeler; maybe more. Abby, I do look forward to hearing your autoharp SOON. This must be autoharpus interruptus--or whatever...I know how Bill felt. Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 Apr 99 - 01:47 PM You're right, Art. Mary Wheeler was an amateur, collecting fragments from the perhaps failing memories of old roustabouts, but she was there, and she did what she knew how to do. Dillon Bustin certainly added to some of the texts Wheeler collected, as I also did, fleshing out the songs. I generally took verses from other songs in the book, adding them to those that I wanted to sing. Harpgirl could surely do the same, making use of the book as we have done. Despite its shortcomings, it's still an important primary source. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 Apr 99 - 03:00 PM OOPS! Forgot to ask: Art, do you know of a recording (LP, cassette, or CD) Dillon has made of his river and riverboat songs? I'd love to get my hands on a copy of that! Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 08 Apr 99 - 08:57 PM Sandy, Nope, I've not seen that cassette, ever. I'd be in line to buy a copy too--fer sure. So I've got to come out and admit that I've done the same thing with those isolated verses from Mary Wheeler's collected songs. Check out my version of "What Does The Deep Sea Say". Most of the verses I sang in that one were from Ms. Wheeler. She WAS there, as you say. And her instincts were certainly in the right place. And on the new CD I included "Is Your Lamps Gone Out" which is in _Steamboatin' Days_ too. Did that tune come from Dillon B.? I don't know where I found it. The performance on my CD at the U. of Chicago Folk Fest was one of 2 times I ever sang the song. Tuning into "open G" was more than I wanted to deal with usually. But the U. of Chi always felt like home to me. It's like Jack Thorp's 1908 thin book of cowboy songs--several of which were written by Jack. As a working cowboy himself, he had all the credentials to do it right. And his little book set the stage for John Lomax's __COWBOY SONGS__ 2 years later in 1910--the one with the introduction by Teddy Roosevelt. Both sure were wonderful in their own way. Jack Thorp's __SONGS OF THE COWBOYS__is still available with a foreward by Guy Logsden. It's a BISON BOOK, a wonderful series of books of Western history & first-hand accounts. Comes from the University of Nebraska Press at Lincoln. (Thorp's __Pardner Of The Wind__, is where I first found __THE GREAT TURTLE DRIVE__ which I altered a bit by mentioning a land terrapin named "STUDS TURTLE".--It's a wonderful story...) Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Arkie Date: 08 Apr 99 - 09:54 PM Two of my favorite boat songs are Wreak of the Prairie Bell which I think was from a poem about Jim Bludso and Lily of Arkansas. Both have been recorded by Cathy Barton and Dave Para who were mentioned by Sandy earlier. Not that Bob Dyer needs any further recommendation, but he is an excellent writer of historical pieces. He has also written some first class songs with a Civil War theme |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: John in Brisbane Date: 08 Apr 99 - 11:59 PM Harpgirl, congrats on your fine achievement. Makes us lesser mortals aspire to even greater things.
Australia has a proud but brief history with riverboats, the trade largely fading once the railways arrived (as I recall). Quite a number of cities and towns along the Murray River in Victoria and South Australia owe their roots to the flourishing river trade in the 19'th century. There's certainly a ton of folf-lore, but only a smallish number of songs that I can recall. It's been a long time since I've read up on this stuff, but I'm sure that many weel read Aussies will contribute to this thread - assuming that you are interested.
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: dtfb@bigfoot.com Date: 09 Apr 99 - 12:55 AM How about "Proud Mary" by Credence Clearwater Revival |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 09 Apr 99 - 01:22 AM Well, I was wrong. Tonight I went back to __Steamboatin' Days__ and the person Mary Wheeler got "Is Your Lamps Gone Out" from is only called SUSAN in the book---not Nancy as I stated erroneously both here and in my CD's notes. Sorry. A few of the verses for "What Does The Deep Sea Say" I got from Lee Obie Quiggins, a blind street singer from Lookout Mountain, TN that I tape recorded in Evansville, Indiana about 1962 or so--3 blocks from the Ohio River lazily flowing by at the foot of Main Street. Lee's tune is the one I sang on the LP __A.T.--Songs Of The Heartland__(Kicking Mule 148---long out o' print.) Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 09 Apr 99 - 02:09 AM I think we have to give Mary Wheeler credit for doing what she did. Can you imagine what her family and her neighbors must have thought when this middle-class white woman spent all of her time associating with elderly black roustabouts and their women folk, taking down the songs they could remember? Surely must have shocked 'em all! If a bit of the paternalistic (maternalistic?) attitude is detected, I think we have to consider the time in which she was doing her collecting. As I say, she was there. I've rambled along the Ohio and the Missouri, spent some time going up the Big Sandy, and along the Mississippi, too (one of those trips with you, Art, on the Julia Belle Swain!), but I've never collected any old songs from the folks I've talked with along the way. Worse luck. Got some nice photographs, though! The Barton/Para songs (Jim Bludso and the Prairie Belle, etc.) are still available from Folk-Legacy. Thanks for mentioning them! By doggies, those Missouri kids do make good music, don't they? Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Wolfgang Date: 09 Apr 99 - 08:27 AM I don't know how restricted an American's understanding of "riverboat" is, but if this term includes vessels outside of the US, "The Calabar" (see DT) qualifies as well. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Arkie Date: 09 Apr 99 - 11:45 AM What was I thinking. The Prarie Bell did not wreck, it burned. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Arkie Date: 09 Apr 99 - 11:50 AM Those Missouri kids can sing and play. Thanks to Folk-Legacy for making them available. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Sandy Paton Date: 09 Apr 99 - 01:01 PM Yeah, but ol' Jim held her up against the bank until everybody got ashore! Pretty good poem for a politician. The Bayou Sara also burned (great song). Now I invite someone to write a song about the Sultana disaster. Incredible story. Wish I could write songs! Sandy Sandy |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SULTANA (Art Thieme)^^ From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Apr 99 - 02:06 AM Lord, leave it to Sandy to get me goin' at this hour o' the mornin'. I just had to dig out this song that I've kept but hadn't thought about since I wrote it when I was barely 20 years old---a month earlier and I'd've been 19.
THE SULTANA Here's the song. Please keep in mind that when w 20 year old writes a song, it means he's 20 years old. When a 60 year old writes a song, it means he's a SONGWRITER!!! Art Thieme
Come all you young fellows where'ere you be,
It was April 24th of a865,
Yes, the month it was April, the day 24,
They jammed into corners and slept side by side,
Now, the old Mississippi had risen so high,
She landed at Memphis on April 26th,
Then all hell broke loose as on they did sail,
Now, some said the boiler just failed to hold,
This story is true, I swear to you all, __________ ________ ________ _____ {More people were killed in the Sultana explosion than died on the Titanic.}
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Apr 99 - 02:25 AM Jesus Art...Very well done and historically accurate. You're really pissing me off here...go back in your mountain and contemplate body parts: whopper, whopper, whopper, condom, whopper, whopper, condom, whopper, whopper, whopper, whopper, whopper, condom, whopper, whopper, condom, whopper............ Seriously, nicely done...No, it's Art, what do I want to say, not nicely done...oh, got it...WELL STROKED!!! catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: LEJ Date: 10 Apr 99 - 02:31 AM I like the song,Art. I recently read about the Sultana disaster in Civil War Times . Tragic to think of these men who had survived hell in the Southern prison camps meeting death so close to home. Was there any credence given to the theory you mention in your song, that the riverboat may have been sabotaged? Was "Waitin on the Robert E Lee" a piece of riverboat folk music, or of more recent vintage? How about " Eight More Miles to Louisville." |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 10 Apr 99 - 09:38 AM Hi Guys Please forgive me for posting a request and then disappearing...had a chance to play with Doug Gauss last night and jumped on it...he is a wellspring of florida folk songs and has kept Will McLean's songs lambent around the state. Thanks Sandy for your suggestions. I'll hunt those books down... Of course I have almost every one of John Hartford's albums and even some pictures of John on the Julia Bell Belle Swain thanks to Art...wouldn't sing all those songs for money though *GRIN* Art was sweet enough to send me his riverboat tape which I have nearly worn out already. Lee Ruth introduced me to Bob Dyer's work but I only have the River of the Big Canoe on an old album of folks from the columbia area. It would be nice to have some more... Loved the Sultana, Art! Thanks to the Arkie (who are you?) for the Priarie Bell. Payne's Prairie near Gainesville used to be a lake with a ferry on it LEJ We played eight more miles to Louisville last night! And thanks (tom)catspaw49 for your purrls of wisdom... The DoneyGals did real well at the Florida Old Time Music Championship and we are hoping to persuade Doug Gauss to come out of semi-retirement and become an honorary "Gal for a set at the Florida Folk Festival...or as my old boyfriend calls us..The DonkeyGals!!!Thanks John...I'd love to see some Aussie paddlelboat songs...and to Wolfgang...any boat song would thrill me... keep those riverboat songs flowing my dear Mudcat friends! harpgirl |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Apr 99 - 10:18 AM Should've mentioned that my "Sultana" and "Blue Mountain Lake" and "Red Iron Ore (on my CD) as well as others, I'm sure, share the same great tune. LEJ, I don't think that anyone ever proved anything either way. But I do know that the sinking of the Titanic was actually because the ship collided with a huge, white ALIEN that was proven, in a book I read once (a book that sold millions of copies to believers around the world) to've been part of a CONSPIRACY of similar beings from an entire planet of huge WHITE SUPREMICISTS. We all must stay armed and constantly be on guard.(****LARGE GRIN FOLKS****) Catspaw, Have you read _The Lord Of The Rings? There's an amazing sadly dark character named Gollum in those books by J.R.R.R.R. Tolkien who lurks in a subterranian lake mumbling his name over and over in his throat and devouring Mudcats and other bottom feeding scum !(another *grin*)Thanks for your comments, but it's an early try at songwritin' from a guy who rarely wrote anything. I was more concerned with the treasure hunt of ferreting out the old, traditional song gems lurking in the depths o' history. I only was able to find them after sweeping the scum of the present off the top o' the pond. That afforded a clearer view into the abyss. Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Apr 99 - 10:31 AM Abby, You make me wanna be in Florida (and that's a first)and 20 years younger. Art |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 10 Apr 99 - 10:57 AM Art... *blush,blush* *blink,blink*...I'd take you to the santa fe river and we could soak in the cold springs...I think Devil's Eye would be a good choice...in fact I think I'll go there today..... ...harpalong |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: tucker Date: 10 Apr 99 - 12:14 PM Mr. John Hartford did a song for NPR while here in Porsmouth Ohio. He researched it from a local artist in this area who wrote here in I believe in the 1930's. It's called "Portsmouth Aires (Airs?)". John did it well, as he does all his stuff. I hope he comes back again sometime. Tucker P.S. I don't know if Mr. Hartford ever recorded it yet. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 10 Apr 99 - 01:08 PM hey Tucker... I haven't heard that one...wonder if anyone has it? I also got some interesting songs by searching under Mississippi, Art...harp |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: tucker Date: 11 Apr 99 - 01:09 AM yeah harp, John was so cool. He started into Loreena and all the audience sat waiting for that morsel, then John broke into "Portsmouth 'Airs". He is an artist. No one was disappointed and he pulled it off so wonderfully. If you can find it listen to it. I have never, bar none, seen a person play an instrument with so much grace, even though me and my Gibson once seemed melded, I felt like a novice. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 99 - 01:40 AM Hey tucker, I'm just up the pike from you in Bremen outside of Lancaster. Did you see JH when he was doing the coal special here or was that another time. I love his performances!!!! And Art....Yeah I read LotR's and TheHobbitt.....in the sixties it was like required reading. Funny thing though, my appreciation/understanding of the series is far greater now than it was 30 years ago. Perhaps, as the old saying goes, "We grow too soon old and too late smart." Harpgirl---I too have hated Florida until the past few days and now I'm looking forward to our next trip, God knows when that'll be. You and Banjer have given me a reason to go back...wish I'd been around last year as we did the mandatory family Disney thing...fortunately, my kids liked old Gatorland better. But I am excited for you as it seems things are going your way. Finest Kind!!! LEJ---I'm surprised Art didn't know this, but the Titanic not only didn't have enough lifeboats, but it was supposed to carry the world's largest condom, to be used in just such an emergency. It wasn't ready and they sailed without it and they succumbed to AIDS---Alien Icebergs Destoying Shipping. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Banjer Date: 11 Apr 99 - 01:44 AM LEJ, Reading Civil War Times? Are you part of the CW reenactment community as well? |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Banjer Date: 11 Apr 99 - 01:46 AM Art, Nice job on The Sultana! As C'paw pointed out, well written AND historically accurate. Well done! |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Tucker Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:02 AM Hey Catspaw, I got family in Lancaster. Nice to talk to ya. Hey, new here. Do you have a friendly feud with LEj and AlistarUK.? I'm an old folkie and love this site, just wandered onto it. After trying to write a tune to 5 pound possum and damn near puking up my whiskey laughing so hard I gave my "best shot" and went on to editorials on Mudcat ala unsolicited. Nuns would kill me. Run on sentence. Death by ruler. AHHHHHHH. Anyway, I can be serious, especially about music, but that is fun too, isn't it? Hope to chat later. Tucker |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:05 AM I don't do renactments, but I have noticed we are all three Civil War nuts. And the list goes on.......Got youe e-mail by the way, Thanks! catspaw PS---God help us we have similar tastes and would naturally kinda' talk. You, me, and Leej are in trouble here....maybe katl and Night Owl can issue us some secret passwords and other cool Captain Midnight/Secret Squadron stuff. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:08 AM Hmmm......Banj, looks like we may have to include Tucker too!!! catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Banjer Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:10 AM Where can I get my Mudcat Decoder Ring and how many nasty tasting boxes of cereal do I hafta eat to get enough boxtops? |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 99 - 03:07 AM I dunno'........katl and Night Owl are currently leaning toward the Captain Midnight/Orphan Annie route in which case it will be Ovaltine. If I hear, I'll let you know and you do the same General. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Tucker Date: 11 Apr 99 - 11:13 AM Hey, I'll keep the ring but you can have my ovaltine. Over and out space rangers |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Susan A-R Date: 11 Apr 99 - 11:50 AM I can remember a singer in our area doing a really amazing song about Evangeline (believe that was the name,) a woman who is waiting for her gambler lover to come back, and she watches as a storm/fire sinks the riverboat he's on. I'll do some thinking and see what I can dredge up. Art, Nice one. I'll have to go and dig up the tune to "Rackets."? Oh, and re enactors, I've been known to put on me petticoats and hoops and sing lovely sappy renditions of "Somebody's Darling" and "When This Cruel War is Over." Vermonters have excessive pride about the Civil War, you see, and our Hemlocks were somethin' else. Say, how DO you guys sit down with those sabers on?? |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 11 Apr 99 - 12:19 PM Susan, I like to sing Evangeline. Around here Philip Terry also known as VGO is the expert on Civil War songs. He plays a dozen instruments as well and has an enyclopedic knowledge of banjo history and Civil War songs. Anyone coming to Florida should connect with him for a fascinating conversation. I'm sure he will be at the Florida Folk Fesival during Memorial day weekend... as usual the tomcats took this thread cattywumpus!I think Catspaw is nuttier than Art if that is possible NS (New Subject) anyone going to Orlando for the disney experience should go up to Wekiva Springs and swim in the spring for a taste of natural Florida...It's still a beautiful place if you stay off the beaten path...harpgirl aka abby
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 99 - 01:34 PM Sorry Harpgirl, maybe I am. But I wish I'd known more about the real Florida before our last trip. EVERYTHING that my family enjoyed was either off the beaten path or an older "classic" attraction like Gatorland. To stay a bit on track, I didin't run across Evandeline til about 10 years ago, but it's one of those that grabs you right away, like Hard Times, and I immediately included it. Why or what makes songs like that get you immediately? I suppose just personal taste, but there are a few that almost everyone feels the same way about. catspaw
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Tucker Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:25 PM So true catspaw. I heard Evangeline years ago and though I don't remember how it went I remember I liked it right away. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Tucker Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:26 PM So true catspaw. I heard Evangeline years ago and though I don't remember how it went I remember I liked it right away. |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 11 Apr 99 - 02:29 PM cat...said while scratching you under your chin...here kitty,kitty...nice kitty.... |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Banjer Date: 11 Apr 99 - 04:11 PM This was a very strange occurence!! As I was catching up on this thread I was talking on the phone to my friend and banjo mentor when his name popped up on the screen!! My banjo teacher is none other than VGO! Harpgirl, it is quite possible from VGO's description of you that we may have met before! What a small world this is becoming.....If anyone has any of the tapes or CD's of the 97th Regimental String Band you have VGO's smiling countenance in your hand. He left the band a few years ago in pursuit of other things, but they still use the old pictures onthe covers. (He will be the thinner of the trio, with either a banjo or mandolin in hand) |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: harpgirl Date: 11 Apr 99 - 05:49 PM Banjer, Synchronicity! You have a great mentor there. He has my respect. How would I know if we have met? harpgirl |
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Subject: RE: Riverboat Songs? From: Banjer Date: 11 Apr 99 - 05:56 PM I don't know, but VGO said to me, "You should remember her". I think he has me being somewhere confused with someone else, if that makes sense..I just 'membered, BillD just put up a picture of me on the Mudcat Family Album site! I would suppose if you ever saw me, that pic would jog the memory. |
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