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Nigel Parsons 28 Nov 02 - 11:50 AM
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Subject: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 11:50 AM

Each year I attempt an almost impossible quiz. (in 26 years the compiler has only twice received fully correct entries!) This year I am doing much better, and am stuck on only parts of 2 questions. Help with nos. 9 & 12 would be appreciated. no.8 is included as it is 'on topic'.
If anyone wants to see the whole thing please PM me. I'm not putting it all here for discussion in case someone else attempting it gets more benefit than me!

Nigel

8,    Connect and distinguish the Radetsky March, Vienna Blood, the Fireproof polka, the Steam Up polka, Cat and Mouse, the 2001 theme music, The Chocolate Soldier and Annie

9,    SWPF, OHAC, WLTM, TDHM, NS, GSOH, ARA. explain

12,   What honorific title is commonly bestowed upon:
        a, One who is descended from the prophet Muhammad
        b, one who has learned the Koran by heart
        c, One who has made the pilgrimage to Mecca?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: IanC
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 11:58 AM

9 is dating terminology

GSOH - Good Sense of Humour
WLTM - Would Like to Meet

etc.

looks like single white(?) professional female - own house(?) and car - would like to meet - tall dark handsome man - non smoker - good sense of humour - all replies answered.

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:01 PM

Thank tou Ian, I had all but one of those (the last was a guess, but matched yours.)

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:03 PM

IanC seems to have cracked number 9.

8. I know some of these are compositions of various members of the Strauss Family. I presume the rest are as well.

There's a name for the pilgrimage to Mecca - is it the HAJ ? Is Haji an honorific title ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:06 PM

Yes, 12 is Haj


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: IanC
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:12 PM

"Once a believer has made the pilgrimage to Mecca they may add the title al-Hajji to their name."

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:16 PM

Yes, 12c, is 'Hadji / Hajji / Haji, But I'm grateful for confirmation. I also have answer(s) for 12a, but appreciate confirmation/ alternatives.

Declan was quick off the mark with Strauss. I took some time to identify all the answers. "Connect and distinguish"

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:23 PM

As far as I know Radetsky was Johann Snr and 2001 was Rickhard. Don't know which of the others was which.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:41 PM

Hi Nigel, someone who has learned the Koran by heart is called "hafiz".


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:49 PM

greg: thanks, that's the one I had no clue on. It's not in Chambers Twentieth Century, but I've now traked it down on Google thanks to your answer.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:54 PM

Nigel, I dont know what someone is descended from the prophet is called (perhaps you'll tell us here?), but I do know it gives you the right to wear a green turban.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 01:05 PM

Found this on google: he called himself "Hojo", which means "The descendant of Mohammed. (If you just put in "hojo" on google, you wind up with a bunch of links for Howard Johnson's restaurants!*bg*)

I also found an article in a Catholic pub. about a king who visited the Pope who and was a direct descendant of Mohammed and was referred to as "Sidi Mohammad."


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 01:15 PM

...the Pope, who was a direct descendant of Muhammad....
hmmm...
:0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 01:17 PM

Ssorrreeeee!! Of course it was the KING who was descended!**bg**

(I fixed it, but left the evidence!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 02:05 PM

greg: I have the following;
a, One who is descended from the prophet Muhammad: Emir (amir, ameer) also Sherif/ Sharif (in both cases descent from the prophet via his daughter Fatima)

I will post the full answer to the musical question if anyone wants it, but I'm allowing a little more time!

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 05:00 PM

Once again the 'Cat proves its versatility. This is the first time I've been able to answer every part of one of these Christmas quizzes.
In the past I've worked at it from late Nov to early Jan without complete success!

To give a further idea of just how complex this quiz can be, I'm including the 1998 version (for which I have the answers). Clearly some questions need to be deciphered before the answers can be sought.
Nigel

JAD's Christmas Quiz 1998
1.        What started at Melbourne and ended some 5,000 kilometres later at Suzuka?
2.        Connect Audrey Hepburn, Tintin, Waterloo, George Le Gloupier and septante-deux.
3.        Why won't the new £2 coin roll properly?
4.        Ground floor.., perfumery, stationery and leather goods, wigs and haberdashery, kitchenware and food. First floor... what?
5.        How were muscardirzus avellanarius and gryllotalpa gryllotalpa, or cypripedium calceolus and segmentina nitida, each equivalent to boletus satanas?
6.        Distinguish between...
          (a)        Alexandria and Siena.
          (b)        Becket and More.
          (c)        Canterbury and Hippo.
          (d)        Avila and Lisieux.
          (e)    Just and Great.
7.        Name the third Monday in February, the last Monday in May, the first Monday in September, the second Monday in October, and the fourth Thursday in November.
8.        Three threes... Bruichladdich, Fettercaim, Glencadam, Glenfiddich, Knockando, Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Lochside, ana Macallan.
9.        which is the odd one out, and why, amongst Ghost, Phantom, Wraith, Dawn, Cloud, Shadow, Spirit, Spur and Seraph?
10.        Explain how...
    (a)        An Italian divided by a Frenchman equals a German.
    (b)        A differentiated Mancunian is a Glaswegian or a Cantabrigian.
    (c)        273 Ulster-born Scotsmen equal 32 Polish-born Dutchmen.
11.        Norway nil points — but when, where, who and with what?
12.        Distinguish between the Lord Advocate, the Lord Justice-Clerk, the Lord Justice-General, the Lord Ordinary and the Lord President.
13.        How are Severn, Aust and Kingsgate one above Parson's Pleasure, Swanscombe, and Zoo West?
14.        Complete the sequence — arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, lion, dragon,
15.        Why might Scouts be particularly drawn to Aston Villa Football Club, Merchiston Castle School or the Metropolitan Borough of South Tyneside?
16.        Why did two lost children need fourteen angels?
17.        Place Brian Boru, Brother Cadfael, Geoffrey Chaucer, El Cid, Erik the Red, Lady Godiva, Bishop Hatto, Hereward the Wake, Robin Hood, Prester John, Genghis Khan, Omar Khayyam, Llywellyn ap Gruffydd, Macbeth, the Pied Piper, Marco Polo, William Tell, Good King Wenceslas, Dick Whittington and William the Conqueror in chronological order of their (real or supposed) deeds of fame. Supporting argument may be included if you wish.
18.        This year's cipher owes much to M. Mot-clé de Tableau, a sixteenth-century French cryptographer.
GPAZF SUTBZ ARHRL IVXJO IVYWP QGZWE UUOGL SBWLX WSQWE.
19.        For their winter expedition, the Venture Scouts are contemplating a five point hike in which they will visit (in any convenient order) the villages of Norton, Sutton, Easton, Weston and Middleton. Where in Great Britain is the shortest route meeting these requirements? (Any entrants who actually complete such a hike themselves may claim bonus marks.)
20.        Say it with flowers — Sir Percy Blakeney, Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes, Sebastian's sister, Nobody's son, a New Year football game, a careless baby farmer, the fall of Caetano, the reign of Ahmed III, the Vicar of Wakefield, and the belle of Dogpatch USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 09:00 AM

As promised, the full answer to this year's question on music.

Question: Connect and distinguish the Radetsky March, Vienna Blood, the Fireproof polka, the Steam Up polka, Cat and Mouse, the 2001 theme music, The Chocolate Soldier and Annie

Answer: These are all composed by Strauss with one spelling or another, but none are by the same Strauss :-
Radetsky March: Johann Strauss I (The elder)
Vienna Blood: Johann Strauss II (The younger)
Fireproof polka: Joseph Strauss
Steam up polka: Eduard Strauss
Cat And Mouse: Johan Strauss III (also a series of books published by Farrar Straus & Giroux)
the 2001 theme: (Also Sprach Zarathustra) Richard Strauss (the film is also remembered for "The Blue Danube" [by Johann Strauss II] being played as 'atmosphere music' )
The chocolate soldier: Oskar Straus
Annie: music for this 1982 film was by Charles Strouse


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 10:04 AM

Nigel,

Your quizmaster seems to be an unusaul mixture of genius and sadism.

Apart from question 1 of the 1998 quiz and a very few small subsections of other questions I could see how it could easily take several months of research to complete it. I'd love to have the time. Maybe I'll try some of them over the Christmas/New Year period. Looks like fun.

Where would you go to get the lyrics of the theme from "Are you being served" for example ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 10:47 AM

Declan: hopefully from a (frequent) re-run on the box!

Of course, once you get a few sub-sections of questions they lead you on to where to find more.

And yes, usually I work on the quiz from late November to early January and fail to complete it. This year I cracked it in under a week. Maybe the quizmaster's going soft.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 06:32 AM

REFRESH:

The 1998 quiz above was one of those which (with 6 weeks available to do it) did not get any full sets of answers.
Declan figures he would be confident of No 1,(but doesn't let on to the answer) and recognizes No 4, How would the 'Cat have fared with this quiz ?
It is worth noting that even suggesting a single part of an answer is often enough to 'set the ball rolling' toward a full answer, so the smallest input can help.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 07:25 AM

A few answers to set the ball rolling - some of these are guesses (?)

1 is the Formula 1 Grand Prix circuit

6 (b) Becket & More Both Thomas, both archbishops of Canterbury, both killed allegedly at the behest of a King called Henry? (II & VIII respectively)

6 (d) Avilla and Lisieux Both Saints called Theresa. The second one known as The Little Flower was in the news here in Ireland last year because relics of her remains were on a tour around the country

7. All US holidays ? Last one is Thanksgiving.

10(a) Scientific Units ? Not sure which ones

11 was a Eurovision song contest but I don't know details requested.

15 Motto ? Be prepared


17 Brian Boru Irish High king died at the Battle of Clontarf (1014) after a Good Friday disagreement with a Dane called Brodir. So he was before William the Conqueror (1066) and Marco Polo (13th Century?) not sure about the others. I know I read a Ladybird book about Hereward the Wake once, but he's not well known in these parts and I can't remember much about it. Don't know dates for the others.

20 Sir Percy Blakeny was the Scarlet Pimpernel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 07:31 AM

Good start:
1, Melbourne and Suzuka held the first and last races of the 1988 Grand Prix season.
All the other 'part answers' are accurate as far as they go. So can be used as hints

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Bassic
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 07:47 AM

The Eurovision Song Contest question was (I think), Palais des Congres, Paris, France, 22 April 1978, a Norweigan entry by Jahn Teigen, Mil Etter Mil, which recieved the infamous "Nul Points"!!

Referenced from "The Complete Eurovision Song Contest Companion"

Gambaccini, Rice, Rice, Brown (Pavilion 1998)

I am aware that knowing the answer to this question before borrowing my brothers reference book to confirm the details makes me a very sad person but we all have our crosses to bear9! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 08:08 AM

8 Many of these are Malt Whiskies, the three threes are probably to do with groupings of their places of origin, about which I know very little.

9 All models of Rolls Royce ? With Silver before them. I suspect the odd one out is Wraith because calling a car a Silver Wraith doesn't sound like it would get out of the Marketing Department. This is a pure guess but I've definitely heard of a few of them in this context, and I know almost nothing about cars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Bassic
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 08:40 AM

9, I think you nearly have it Declan, I think the odd one out is Phantome, All the others DO have Silver before them in their names, the Phantome, I seem to remember, always had a number after. eg Phantome IV.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 08:55 AM

Nigel,

Have you worked out the cipher in Q 18? If so is the spacing between words correct (ie are they 5 separate 9 letter words or is this designed to throw us off) ? Are they just random words or is it a phrase ? I'm having fun trying to solve this but no luck so far.

Don't give me any clues other than answering my questions, please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 09:36 AM

Vicious stuff Nigel. This all needs a little thought. anyway, of the top of my head:
8:
Bruichladdich, Lagavullin and Laphroig are Islay whiskies.
Fettercaim, Lochside and Glencadam are East highland.
Knockando, Glenfiddich and macallan are Speyside.
20: the baby farmer is buttercup.
10c Fahrenheit and Kelvin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 09:59 AM

Re Q18, "mot-cle de tableau", is the first number of the table,and some of the letters are latin numerals, how that helps I don't know,is it along the right lines?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 10:09 AM

Well the Norton Sutton Easton etc question is good. Now I've got more interesting things to do than get maps out and figure out which are closest together. But a quick use of yahoo facilities did show that this excursion could be equally well held within the counties of Warwickshire, Somerset,or Northamptonshire. Or, indeed, the state of Massachusetts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 11:01 AM

severn Aust Kingsgate etc. i think we're somewhere in the region of locks or bridges. the first three to do with the severn. But I dont see how you fit Parsons Pleasure swanscombe and Zoo West onto the Thames, or any other river. Parsons Pleasure is a nudist bathing pool on the Cherwell. Dont know if that is a helpful hint to anyone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 11:34 AM

greg -
I believe 10c is Celsius and Fahrenheit.
The freezing point of water is zero Centigrade, 32 Fahrenheit, 459 Rankine, and 273 Celsius.

10a is Volts/Amps = Ohms - Volta or Voltera(?,) Ampere, Ohm or Ohme(?).

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 11:45 AM

Have to give greg the points for the whiskies! His answer is a re-wording of the 'official' answer. (There goes No.8)
Declan: the spacing for the cipher is deliberate. 'okthen' points the way to some extent.
Bassic: The rolls royces, you're on the right lines.
The 'baby farmer' is "Buttercup" (greg) and Sir Percy Blakeney was 'The Scarlet Pimpernel'
greg has given the reasoning behind 10c, 10 a & b should not be far behind.

And, to answer Declan, I didn't solve the cipher in Q18. But I have a copy of the official answers!

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 11:51 AM

While I was typing JohninKansas added 10a,In electricity, potential difference divided by current gives resistance, the standard units for these three quantities are the volt (named after Alessandro Volta, Italian), the ampere (André-Marie Ampere, French) and the ohm (Georg Ohm, German). A temperature of 273 Kelvin (Lord Kelvin, who moved from Ulster to Scotland) is equal to 32~ Fahrenheit (Gabriel Fahrenheit, born in Poland but Dutch by adoption). It is also equal to 0 Celsius (Anders Celsius) and 0 Réaumur (René de Réaumur), so we might have added 'no Swedes or Frenchmen' to the question.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 12:15 PM

Question 6, yes, we're talking saints with shared names. The question says "Distinguish between..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 12:36 PM

Q6: there was St Augustine of Canterbury, who converted the English, and St Augustine of Hippo, who presumably converted hippopotamuses. And he also famously prayed to God "give me chastity, but not yet".


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 12:48 PM

greg: almost verbatim fron the answer sheet! "St. Augustine of Canterbury, first Archbishop of Canterbury, died in 604, but St. Augustine of Hippo, who died in 430, prayed for chastity 'but not just yet'"
And those mentioned by Declan: St.Thomas Becket, Archbishop and Chancellor, died in 1170 on the orders of Henry II, while St. Thomas More, Chancellor, died in 1535 on the orders of Henry VIII.
St. Teresa of Avila died in 1582 after founding many nunneries, and St. Thérèse of Lisieux died young in 1897, and is credited with many miracles.
Still leaves 6a & 6e,

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 01:22 PM

6a) St Catherine of Alexandria (after whom we name a firework!) and
St Catherine of Siena, who became a nun to escape the attentions of men?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 02:24 PM

7.       Place Brian Boru, 11th Century 1014AD

Brother Cadfael, 12th century   in May, 1080


Geoffrey Chaucer, 1343-1400) ...


El Cid,   1040; died at Valencia, 1099.

Erik the Red,   980-81,

Lady Godiva, 1086

Bishop Hatto, (891-913).

Hereward the Wake, 1071

Robin Hood, 12th Century   1226.

Prester John, 1145.

Genghis Khan, 1165 (dates vary wildly), and died in August 1227.

Omar Khayyam, 1048-1122

Llywellyn ap Gruffydd, 1273 and 1276

Macbeth, 1050

the Pied Piper,1284

Marco Polo, 1254-1324),


William Tell, 1307 as the date of Tell's deeds and New Year 1308

Good King Wenceslas, 929

Dick Whittington 1357

and William the Conqueror 1066
don't think I have the stamina to put them in chronological order


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 02:30 PM

heroic stuff,okthen, but I have to disagree on william the Conqueror. he managed to make himself very very famous in 1066 but he didnt die till 1087.
And how did you date Robin Hood to 1226? I dont disagree, I just wonder where you got that from.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 02:57 PM

Greg, just a (long) google search, re-searched and found this


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 03:00 PM

OOOOPs, willtry again robinood


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Kim C
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 03:02 PM

Howard Johnson is a descendant of Mohammed?!!!?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 03:29 PM

Declan,

Re: 'Are You Being Served Theme' Very easily found with Google.

First floor telephones,
Gents ready-made suits,
Shirts, socks, ties, hats,
Underwear and shoes...going up


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 03 Dec 02 - 06:30 AM

sheffield park to horsted keynes is the bluebell line
caetano is roses
ahmed III is tulip
dogpatch is daisy mae


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 03 Dec 02 - 09:58 AM

greg,

re your 2:30 post. The question was to put them in order with respect to their (alleged) deeds of fame rather than their date of birth or death. So 1066 is correct for WtC - unless his death was more famous than his conquest of Britain.

While I'm on the subject, instead of arguing among ourselves about all this political stuff, isn't it time we all got together and kicked these Normans back to where they came from. I mean what did they ever do for us ?

Declan de Fay


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 05:53 AM

Any answers I quote are those of the setter. I did not necessarily get them!
Q17,We ordered these historical and legendary figures as follows — Wenceslas (charitable giving, 925?), Bishop Hatto (eaten by mice, 970), Erik the Red (discovered Greenland, 982), Brian Boru (made High King, 1002), Macbeth (became King, 1040), Godiva (rode naked, 1050?), William the Conqueror (won at Hastings, 1066), Hereward (led rebellion, 1070), El Cid (took Valencia, 1094), Omar Khayyam (wrote Rubaiyat, 1110?), Cadfael (solved murders, 1140?), Prester John (wrote letter, 1165), Robin Hood (ruled Sherwood, 1194), Genghis Khan (captured Peking, 1215), Llywellyn (ruled all Wales, 1254), Marco Polo (visited China, 1271), Pied Piper (freed Hamelin of rats, 1284), William Tell (resisted Austrians, 1307), Geoffrey Chaucer (wrote Canterbury Tales, 1388), Dick Whittington (became Lord Mayor, 1397). Most readers agreed with this, but other orders were given full credit if convincingly argued.


Guest: yes, 4, Ground floor.., perfumery, stationery and leather goods, wigs and haberdashery, kitchenware and food. First floor.., telephones, gents' ready-made suits, shirts, socks, ties, hats, underwear and shoes, according to the Are You Being Served? signature tune         

okthen: that's a start to the answer of No 20, which should help others by making the connection clear.

6,e anyone?

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:13 AM

St. James the Just, and St. James the Great.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:22 AM

That's question 6 complete, although some have been identified without being 'distinguished'
6, labels related to pairs of saints. St. Catherine of Alexndria died in 310, broken on a wheel, and St. Catherine of Siena, preacher and peacemaker, died in 1380. St. Thomas Becket, Archbishop and Chancellor, died in 1170 on the orders of Henry II, while St. Thomas More, Chancellor, died in 1535 on the orders of Henry VIII. St. Augustine of Canterbury, first Archbishop of Canterbury, died in 604, but St. Augustine of Hippo, who died in 430, prayed for chastity 'but not just yet'. St. Teresa of Avila died in 1582 after founding many nunneries, and St. Thérèse of Lisieux died young in 1897, and is credited with many miracles. St. James the Just, the brother (or perhaps the cousin) of Jesus, was the first Bishop of Jerusalem and died in 62, while St. James the Great, who died in 43, was the brother of John (and son of Zebedee) and one of 'the twelve'.
That means complete answers are held for 1, 4, 6, 8, 9 10 and 17.
Other questions with partial answers at least point the way to the full answer.
Q 13 is indeed about bridges, and something that happened to them in May '98

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:23 AM

St. James the Just (62 AD)
Memory celebrated October 23
The author of the General Epistle of James identifies himself as "James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ " (James 1:1). Early church tradition ascribes this letter to James, the "brother", or kinsman, of our Lord, known as James the Just.

St. James was probably converted by a post-resurrection appearance of Christ (1 Cor. 15:7). The apostles made him the first bishop of Jerusalem (see Acts 12:7, 18; Gal. 1:18, 19, 2:9), where he presided over the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15:13).

St. James the Greater
(Heb. Yakob; Sept. Iakob; N.T. Greek Iakobos; a favourite name among the later Jews).

The son of Zebedee (q.v.) and Salome (Cf. Matthew 17:56; Mark 15:40; 16:1). Zahn asserts that Salome was the daughter of a priest. James is styled "the Greater" to distinguish him from the Apostle James "the Less," who was probably shorter of stature. We know nothing of St. James's early life. He was the brother of John, the beloved disciple, and probably the elder of the two.

Is there some other reason than the £2 coin being made of 2 different metals,for instance,usually when you see a £2 coin rolling, it's rolling away from you, and the tears in your eye make it appear to wobble?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:47 AM

okthen: £2- coin. think of the reverse design (and this was just before the one with the rugby ball was issued). It could be considered an engineering question. While you're at it, how about Q14 ?

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:59 AM

For those reading this on a page, I'll repeat the outstanding uestions. Remember, this was Christmas 1998, some of the questions may have been more topical that year (3,5, &13). 16 is musical!
2.       Connect Audrey Hepburn, Tintin, Waterloo, George Le Gloupier and septante-deux.
3.       Why won't the new £2 coin roll properly?
5.       How were muscardirzus avellanarius and gryllotalpa gryllotalpa, or cypripedium calceolus and segmentina nitida, each equivalent to boletus satanas?
7.       Name the third Monday in February, the last Monday in May, the first Monday in September, the second Monday in October, and the fourth Thursday in November.
10.       Explain how...   
    (b)       A differentiated Mancunian is a Glaswegian or a Cantabrigian.
11.       Norway nil points — but when, where, who and with what?
12.       Distinguish between the Lord Advocate, the Lord Justice-Clerk, the Lord Justice-General, the Lord Ordinary and the Lord President.
13.       How are Severn, Aust and Kingsgate one above Parson's Pleasure, Swanscombe, and Zoo West?
14.       Complete the sequence — arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, lion, dragon,
15.       Why might Scouts be particularly drawn to Aston Villa Football Club, Merchiston Castle School or the Metropolitan Borough of South Tyneside?
16.       Why did two lost children need fourteen angels?
18.       This year's cipher owes much to M. Mot-clé de Tableau, a sixteenth-century French cryptographer.
GPAZF SUTBZ ARHRL IVXJO IVYWP QGZWE UUOGL SBWLX WSQWE.
19.       For their winter expedition, the Venture Scouts are contemplating a five point hike in which they will visit (in any convenient order) the villages of Norton, Sutton, Easton, Weston and Middleton. Where in Great Britain is the shortest route meeting these requirements? (Any entrants who actually complete such a hike themselves may claim bonus marks.)
20.       Say it with flowers —
Sir Percy Blakeney, The Scarlet Pimpernel
Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes, The Bluebell Line
Sebastian's sister,
Nobody's son,
a New Year football game,
a careless baby farmer, Buttercup
the fall of Caetano,
the reign of Ahmed III, The Tulip Age
the Vicar of Wakefield,
and the belle of Dogpatch USA. Daisy Mae


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 07:03 AM

Nos. 3,5 & 14 are definitely UK oriented, but No 7 should get an answer from West of the big pond!


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 08:04 AM

7.       Name the third Monday in February,   Presidents Day
the last Monday in May, Memorial Day
the first Monday in September, Labor Day
the second Monday in October, Columbus Day
and the fourth Thursday in November.   Thanksging Day

The design on the £2 coin is of cogs, one of which is solid,I would be surprised if this is the answer, I don't see that such a small amount of metal could have such a profound effect.

more later if I get time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 09:03 AM

okthen: No 7 correct,

The £2 coin: cogs in a circle, how many? (hint hint)


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Schantieman
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 09:11 AM

Aren't the cogs fitted together in such a way as to lock solid?

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 09:40 AM

I think I see, were they real cogs, they couldn't turn; there would need to be one more or one less.

Q 14, Celtic Collar, design on £1 coin first introduced 1996.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 09:50 AM

No 2 - are they all Belgian? (I think Belgians say septante-deux, whereas French say soixante-douze)

Say it with flowers - in Diary of a Nobody, wasn't Mr Pooter's son called Lupin


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 12:26 PM

Violence is never the answer


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 02:19 PM

That "Guest, nigel parsons is not me

Snuffy,both correct

Schantieman: yes, 19 cogs won't turn

Nigel (The real one)
    There was a Guest who posted a nasty message under Nigel's name. I deleted the message.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 02:29 PM

Declan: re your post of 9.58. I have examined this question for a while to see if I can think of a clever-dick answer. All I have come up with so far is "you were right and I was wrong, I failed to read the question correctly". that will have to do for the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 04:50 AM

Joe: thanks

okthen: yes, celtic cross added 1996 to continue the series, but the question (set 1998) said 'complete the sequence', so '96, 97 & 98 needed.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: jonm
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 05:36 AM

Question 15's answer is that in each case their motto is "Be prepared", which is also that of the Scout movement.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 05:44 AM

jonm: close enough, the quoted answer was:
15, Scouts (whose motto is Be Prepared) might be particularly drawn to Aston Villa Football Club (motto Prepared), Merchiston Castle School in Edinburgh (Ready Ay Ready) or the Metropolitan Borough
of South Tyneside (Always Ready).


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 06:43 AM

Q14,
'97 3 lions rampant
'98 ensigns armorial, (arms)
Hope that clears 14, what's left?


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 09:00 AM

Q 16, Hansel and Gretel, in the opera by Humperdinck,they are guarded by 14 angels as they sleep in the wood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 08:13 AM

Partly to refresh, and partly to beg for the answers, *BG*, some of these have been driving me crazy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 08:29 AM

okthen: just for you, the full set of answers (as quoted by the setter). I'm sure you can see why he has only had 2 all correct sets in 26 years!

1, Melbourne and Suzuka hosted the first and last races of the 1998 Grand Prix season
2, The five to connect were all Belgian. Audrey Hepburn was a film actress born in Brussels (to an English father and a Dutch mother), Tintin is a cartoon character created by Hergé (Georges Rémi), the battlefield of Waterloo is about 16 kilometres (10 miles) south of Brussels, Le Gloupier (Noel Godin) is an entarteur who attacks his well-known victims with 'custard pies', and septante-deux is the Walloon dialect version of the classic French soixantedouze.
      3, The design on the reverse of the new £2 coin shows 19 cog wheels in a ring - since they must rotate alternately clockwise and anticlockwise, an even number are needed for rotation. It was also pointed out the rugby ball on the 1999 coin won't roll properly either!
         4, Ground floor.., perfumery, stationery and leather goods, wigs and haberdashery, kitchenware and food. First floor.., telephones, gents' ready-made suits, shirts, socks, ties, hats, underwear and shoes, according to the Are You Being Served? signature tune         
5, The 'endangered species' stamps issued in January 1998 depicted muscardinus avellanarius (2Op) and gryllotalpa gryllotalpa (43p), and cypripedium calceolus (26p) and segmentina nitida (37p), each pair totalling boletus satanas (63p).
                   6, labels related to pairs of saints. St. Catherine of Alexndria died in 310, broken on a wheel, and St. Catherine of Siena, preacher and peacemaker, died in 1380. St. Thomas Becket, Archbishop and Chancellor, died in 1170 on the orders of Henry II, while St. Thomas More, Chancellor, died in 1535 on the orders of Henry VIII. St. Augustine of Canterbury, first Archbishop of Canterbury, died in 604, but St. Augustine of Hippo, who died in 430, prayed for chastity 'but not just yet'. St. Teresa of Avila died in 1582 after founding many nunneries, and St. Thérèse of Lisieux died young in 1897, and is credited with many miracles. St. James the Just, the brother (or perhaps the cousin) of Jesus, was the first Bishop of Jerusalem and died in 62, while St. James the Great, who died in 43, was the brother of John (and son of Zebedee) and one of 'the twelve'.
               7, In almost all of the United States of America — practice varies from state to state — the third Monday in February is observed as Washington's Birthday or Presidents' Day, the last Monday in May as Memorial Day, the first Monday in September as Labor Day, the second Monday in October as Columbus Day or Discovery Day, and the fourth Thursday in November as Thanksgiving Day.
             8, Bruichladdich, Lagavulin and Laphroaig are 'single malt' Whiskies from lslay, Glenfiddich, Knockando and Macallan are Speyyside malts, and Fettercairn, Glencadam and Lochside are Highland malts from the Glenesk area.
      9, Ghost, Phantom, Wraith, Dawn, Cloud, Shadow, Spirit, Spur and Seraph are all Rolls-Royce models, all except Phantom were or are prefixed by 'Silver'. Several readers offered the alternative answer that the Silver Seraph (the newest model) will be the first not to be powered by a Rolls-Royce engine, and were also awarded full marks.
             10, In electricity, potential difference divided by current gives resistance, the standard units for these three quantities are the volt (named after Alessandro Volta, Italian), the ampere (André-Marie Ampere, French) and the ohm (Georg Ohm, German). The standard unit of energy is the joule, named after James Joule, a Manchester brewer. Energy may be differentiated with respect to time to give power, normally measured in watts (James Watt, Glasgow) or with respect to displacement to obtain force, the unit of which is the newton (Isaac Newton, Cambridge). A temperature of 273 Kelvin (Lord Kelvin, who moved from Ulster to Scotland) is equal to 32~ Fahrenheit (Gabriel Fahrenheit, born in Poland but Dutch by adoption). It is also equal to 0 Celsius (Anders Celsius) and 0 Réaumur (René de Réaumur), so we might have added 'no Swedes or Frenchmen' to the question.
11, Norway nil points — most notoriously when Jahn Teigen's performance of Mil Etter Mil scored no points in the 1978 Eurovision Song Contest, in Paris. However, the Norwegian entry has in fact scored no points on three other occasions. Anita Thallaug's Solherv (London, 1963), Finn Kalvik's Alsri i livet (Dublin, 1981) and Tor Endresen's San Francisco (Dublin, 1997) achieved the same distinction. Austria, Spain and Switzerland have each scored no points three times, and several countries have done so once or twice.
            12, In the Scots legal system, the Lord Advocate (presently Lord Hardie) is Her Majesty's principal law officer in Scotland, the Lord Justice-Clerk (Lord Cullen) is the second most senior judge and leads the Second Division of the Inner House of the Court of Session, the Lord Justice-General (Lord Rodger) is the most senior judge and leads the High Court of Justiciary in criminal cases, the Lord Ordinary is the title given to a judge sitting at first instance in serious cases and the Lord President is the same person as the Lord Justice-General but so titled when leading the First Division of the Inner House in civil cases.
    13, How are Severn, Aust and Kingsgate one above Parson's Pleasure, Swanscombe and Zoo West? . In May 1998, ten post war bridges were officially named as 'listed' buildings. These included the Severn Bridge, the Aust Viaduct and the Kingsgate Footbridge in Durham, all listed as Grade I, and footbridges at Parson's Pleasure (Oxford), Swanscombe (Ashford, Kent) and London Zoo, listed as Grade II.
14, The sequence — arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, thistle, leek, flax, oak, arms, lion, dragon... continues with cross, leopards (or lions), arms and lion — these are the annual £1 coin designs from 1983 to 1999 inclusive.
          15, Scouts (whose motto is Be Prepared) might be particularly drawn to Aston Villa Football Club (motto Prepared), Merchiston Castle School in Edinburgh (Ready Ay Ready) or the Metropolitan Borough
of South Tyneside (Always Ready).
    16, In Humperdinck's opera HAnsel und Gretel the children's evening song explains that the 14 angels keep watch — two at the head, two at the feet, two on the right, two on the left, two to cover, two to wake, and two to lead the children to heaven. (The usual English translation has the sixth pair hovering, but full credit was given for either answer.)
17, We ordered these historical and legendary figures as follows — Wenceslas (charitable giving, 925?), Bishop Hatto (eaten by mice, 970), Erik the Red (discovered Greenland, 982), Brian Boru (made High King, 1002), Macbeth (became King, 1040), Godiva (rode naked, 1050?), William the Conqueror (won at Hastings, 1066), Hereward (led rebellion, 1070), El Cid (took Valencia, 1094), Omar Khayyam (wrote Rubaiyat, 1110?), Cadfael (solved murders, 1140?), Prester John (wrote letter, 1165), Robin Hood (ruled Sherwood, 1194), Genghis Khan (captured Peking, 1215), Llywellyn (ruled all Wales, 1254), Marco Polo (visited China, 1271), Pied Piper (freed Hamelin of rats, 1284), William Tell (resisted Austrians, 1307), Geoffrey Chaucer (wrote Canterbury Tales, 1388), Dick Whittington (became Lord Mayor, 1397). Most readers agreed with this, but other orders were given full credit if convincingly argued.
             18, The best known French cryptographer of the 16th was probably Blaise de Vigenère. We hoped (often wrongly, as it turned out) that readers would deduce from the reference to M. Mot-clé de Tableau that the cipher was based on a Vigenère tableau with keyword (mot-clé) BLAISE. (A detailed explanation of the standard cipher procedure can be found in encyclopaedias and other reference books.) The message reads — FEAR NOT I BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY TO ALL PEOPLE.
                19, We asked for the shortest hiking route visiting (in any convenient order) the villages of Norton, Sutton, Easton, Weston and Middleton, and decided to treat as a village for this purpose any group of buildings large enough to be named on Landranger maps, but to exclude compound names such as Norton Disney and Sutton-on-the-Fosse. On this basis, the shortest verifiable route was in Shropshire, starting at Easton (805464,11 kilometres (7 miles) south of Ludlow) and going via Middleton (S05469), Norton (806382) and Sutton (S07286) to Weston (805992, 11.6 kilometres (8 miles) west of Bridgnorth), a walking distance of about 48 kilometres (30 miles). Had we allowed compound names, a much shorter route runs from East Norton (SK7800, 16 kilometres (10 miles) east of Leicester) via Great Easton (SP8493), Middleton (SP8390) and Weston by Welland (SP779 1) to Sutton Bassett (SP7790, 4.5 kilometres (3 miles) north-east of Market Harborough) and totals only 24 kilometres (15 miles). No one claimed the bonus marks for actually walking their route!
          20, Sir Percy Blakeney was the Scarlet Pimpernel, Sheffield Park and Horsted Keynes are the termini of the Bluebell Railway Sebastian's sister in Twelfth Night is Viola, the writer's son in Diary of a Nobody is Lupin Pooter, New Year sees the Rose Bowl football game in Pasadena, a careless baby-farmer might have been Little Buttercup (HMS Pinafore), the fall of Caetano was the result .of Portugal's Carnation Revolution, the reign of Ahmed III was known as the Tulip Age, the Vicar of Wakefield was Dr. Charles Primrose, and the belle of Dogpatch USA was Daisy Mae in the Li'l Abner comic strip


Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: Declan
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 08:58 AM

I'll have to find out more about ciphers. Looks like I was completely on the wrong track. Anyway I enjoyed the quiz.

Thanks Nigel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Help; quiz questions
From: okthen
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 10:20 AM

Thanks Nigel, even with the answer I doubt I can decipher the code.However, one good turn deserves another,this
should keep you busy till Christmas. A selection of previous questions (Nos. 80 to 100) could provide revenge for your quizmaster.


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