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Subject: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Sorcha Date: 19 Mar 06 - 08:06 PM Anybody else sick of them? I know I am....rubbish. Shove off, mates. At least get an original idea once in a while, OK? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: mack/misophist Date: 19 Mar 06 - 08:18 PM Sick? No. Angry? Not really. Bored to distraction; so much so that I never open them? I'm glad you asked. That may well be the case. "The Goon Show" did it brilliabtly. Perhaps the writers don't post here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: GUEST,GUEST,mystified and all innocent Date: 19 Mar 06 - 08:18 PM seconded !!!!!!!!! they should be regarded as a brutish tactic of forum bullying.. bloating the board and pushing more relevent and interesting threads below the line of 'never to be seen again'debate |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 19 Mar 06 - 09:44 PM I'm with you, Sorcha. Let's see how many copy cat threads there are that are started in response to this one... Whyncha come on in my kitchen and try sitting at the kitchen table for a spell? Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Sorcha Date: 19 Mar 06 - 10:03 PM Cause I'm at my own kitchen table...reading a new Robin McKillip |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 06 - 10:16 PM Dare I eat a peach? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Mar 06 - 10:36 PM I created a "derivative thread name game" thread just so there'd be a place where people could put the "great ideas" of potential copycat thread titles instead of actually starting the copies. I dunno why the clones don't just move those "great ideas" to that thread and close the copycats. ~Susan
Didn't work on the Vagina/Viagra thread, I guess. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: GUEST Date: 19 Mar 06 - 10:45 PM Yeah, that's the Mudcat membership for you. Too clever by half. Originality ain't what it used to be around here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Sorcha Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:07 PM Sorry, make that Patricia McKillip....and it doesn't seem to work much at all, Joe |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:21 PM No, I'm not the least bit tired of copycat threads. I find occasional ones to be witty and the rest to be silly and harmless. What I am tired of is people bitching about them. I'd love to know exactly who is holding a gun to the heads of people like Sorcha and making them open the copycat threads that seem to piss them off so badly. Does merely having to look at the thread title and having it register "Copycat thread. Not interested." offend you so terribly? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:50 PM Good thread Sorcha. I'm neither for nor against Copy Cat Threads just as I am neither for nor against bottles filled with urine. I got my ass chewed on for doing one once, so I just don't anymore. However, I have to wonder if I started a thread entitled "Copy Dog thread....??"--well, would that be pushing the envelope? It's OK. I have NO intention of doing so. DON'T WORRY. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 19 Mar 06 - 11:57 PM Would that be about the latest dog cloning techniques, Peace? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 20 Mar 06 - 12:01 AM LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 20 Mar 06 - 04:19 AM anyone seen my vagina thread> Why should we be encouraged to feel that we have any right to judge what any other poster may choose to post or suggest that any censorship action be imposed upon our fellow posters? Will it ever be accepted that the only control any poster has or should have on our forum - is over their own contributions? All the tools we require have been provided to us. No one is force to read or open anything and the only choice any poster has after opening a thread is to respond or not. As to make any form of response will only refresh and prolong the life of a thread - anyone posting a personal judgement on the choice and tastes of a fellow poster and in a thread they so obviously do not care for - is only making themselves look even more foolish. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 20 Mar 06 - 04:35 AM Subject: RE: BS: 'Rules of the Internet' From: Georgiansilver - PM Date: 19 Mar 06 - 04:26 AM Don't open threads that you know are a waste of space on mudcat! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: GUEST Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:22 AM When will you "Anything goes" types going to realize that there are limits? Grow up and stop acting like little boys writing dirty words on the pavement.If you lack the IQ to be civil, then expect to be deleted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Purple Foxx Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:28 AM When,by whom & on what criteria was it decided Vagina was a "dirty" word. It is everybody's entry point to the world. I have never met anyone who believes that "Anything goes" & never expect to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:48 AM Well, if you're gonna open them just read and don't pos... oops! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Wolfgang Date: 20 Mar 06 - 08:04 AM I'd prefer the people who think they are so original when they find a new meaning to a thread title with a change of a few letters to do this within the thread they copy. To start a thread just for one more or less funny title line is like telling a joke so loud that everybody in a pub just has to listen. Mostly, the people who read the original thread might be mildly amused, but those who don't read the original thread are annoyed. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: John MacKenzie Date: 20 Mar 06 - 09:32 AM Copycat threads are like the 'Curate's Egg' and I'd rather see them stay than go, some of them are very funny. Amalgamating them all into one thread [or a vaguely related one] will only be seen as provocation by some people. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 20 Mar 06 - 09:51 AM I don't read the copycat threads. My only real problem with them is that there are times when there are so many that they push the more interesting threads off the bottom of the page and I have to keep refreshing the threads for the previous 3 days in order to find the ones I'm interested in. I suspect that there are interesting threads that we lose track of because they are pushed out of site by endless copycat threads... most of which don't get more than a dozen or so replies. I know that I do, as I tend to pop in here and just look at the threads on the screen unless there is a particular one I've been following. Butr, everything goes in cycles in here. At least it's better than the times when people get nasty and obscene. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:20 AM "Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: GUEST Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:22 AM When will you "Anything goes" types going to realize that there are limits? Grow up and stop acting like little boys writing dirty words on the pavement.If you lack the IQ to be civil, then expect to be deleted." Spoken like a true hermaphrodite. Tampax is not a dirty work. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:20 AM Which of the "hypothetical you's" below are you? If you are at Mudcat every day, you MIGHT know which thread is the original and which are the copycats. You MIGHT be able to save yourself some time, and choose not to open the copycats. If you enjoy starting copycat threads, you MIGHT be on the right wavelength to have some idea what the humor of the copycat threads is intended to be. You MIGHT be able to save yourself some time, and choose not to open the copycats. If you enjoy rhyming slang, or otherwise share the culture of the person who started a copycat thread, you MIGHT have some idea what the humor of the copycat threads is intended to be. You MIGHT be able to save yourself some time, and choose not to open the copycats. If you don't fit any of the descriptions above, chances are you will open the copycat threads to see what they are about. Now, if you're on a cable modem, or if you're on dialup and Mudcat's having a fastloading day, or if you have perfect recall on what every thread you have already opened is all about-- despite the plethora of similar titles-- opening the copycats YOU DON'T KNOW ARE COPYCATS is a minor incovenience. But--- if you are NOT at Mudcat every day, and/or if you DON'T enjoy starting copycat threads, and/or if you DON'T enjoy rhyming slang, or otherwise share the culture of the person who started a copycat thread, and/or if you you're NOT on a cable modem, and/or if you're on dialup and Mudcat's NOT having a fastloading day, and/or if you DON'T have perfect recall on what every thread you have already opened is all about-- despite the plethora of similar titles-- then for you, opening the copycats YOU DON'T KNOW ARE COPYCATS is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS, purely on practical terms. What the objectors are saying is that when people insist on doing this, and a bunch of other people insist on copying THAT and doing it TOO-- you are making Mudcat something a lot of us can't use, don't want to use, and that an increasing number of veteran members are giving up using. It's not so much that we are judging your right to free speech-- it's that you are doing something that causes others actual problems. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: John MacKenzie Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:54 AM I suggest that for those who are interested in a thread and are afraid of losing it due to the 'speed' at which threads disappear, that they use the 'Trace' facility on the right hand side of the page. I still have threads in my trace list from several years ago, and I refer to them sometimes too. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: JennyO Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:39 AM Ah Giok, you beat me to it while I was composing a post. Tracing would seem to be the obvious solution if you are losing threads. However, they don't disappear faster because there are more threads. They might get lost in the crowd (which is why you should trace them), but, despite what some people have said, extra threads can't push other more interesting threads off the bottom, because the page shows threads posted to for the last 24 hours, no matter how many there are. A few extra threads would make the list a bit longer, that's all - your more favoured threads won't disappear until they haven't been posted to for 24 hours - which I suppose might happen if people found the copycat threads so interesting that they posted to them instead of the ones you like. Personally, I don't see the problem. I trace the threads I want to follow, and even if I've been away a few days and need to set the filter to 3 or 7 days or whatever, I don't have a problem finding them. Actually, I think some of the copycat threads turn out quite funny. There is often the potential for witty repartee and interesting thread drift because they are open to all kinds of interpretation. It's good to lighten up sometimes. Actually, when I started to read Susan's post, I thought she was saying that since we don't all like the same things, we could just pick and choose what we want and ignore the threads we don't like, and I was all set to agree with her. But her point turned out to be quite different. I suppose if you are on dialup AND Mudcat is running slow AND you didn't trace the threads you liked AND you don't like the copycat threads AND you've missed a few days, AND AND AND......it would be somewhat more inconvenient to have to check out all those nasty new frivolous threads. The threads I am much more likely to avoid are the ones with endless political rants and long cut and pastes. Doesn't take much creativity to cut and paste. I could get annoyed that they are cluttering up the BS section, and I have even occasionally opened up new threads that I thought might be interesting, going by their title, only to find that they are either boring, or full of rants and personal attacks etc, and I just decide not to look at them again. I don't resent the fact that they are there. Somebody obviously enjoys them - they just aren't for me, that's all. It's called Diversity! So - trace the threads you like and leave the others alone. There's room for all tastes here, IMO. Jenny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: John MacKenzie Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:48 AM Anyway for you folks who complain about lack of originality can we also hear your condemnation of constantly requoting the same thread [usually one of their own]in italics that some people indulge in as a matter of course. Then there's the constant pasting in of aphorisms by other authors, another completely unoriginal pastime. Given these examples copycat threads begin to look more like original sins than they would at first appear. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:54 AM Jeeny, just one of the "OR"s in my post is enough to be a problem for a large number of people. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:55 AM So, Quebec won the curling, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:59 AM I don't know Jerry got the idea that copycat threads "push the more interesting threads off the bottom of the page". A thread falls off the page when it hasn't been posted to or refreshed within the last 24 hours. It has nothing to do with how many other threads appear on the screen. And as for copycat threads being a pain in the ass because of the reasons Susan stated above, I could make the same case for the pain-in-the-assedness of all threads with links to videos or Flash animations. Since I'm on dial-up, a video would have to be extremely compelling before I'd be interested in downloading it. For the minor chuckle most of them provide, it's just not worth it. So, yes, they're a pain in the ass for me. I have to wait a few seconds for the thread to open and sometimes I don't realize it's a video until I've actually clicked on the link and the linked page opens up. And what about the folks who seemingly don't have the ability to give their threads meaningful titles that might actually give a potential reader a bit of a clue as to what the subject is? Ask me how many times I've opened a cryptically entitled thread to find that it was about something about which I couldn't possibly care less. But do you hear me bitching about it? No. I just figure it comes with the territory; that having to open an occasional useless-to-me thread is just part of being at this cyber-place. Just like the rest of life, this place is going to be peppered by dead-ends that turn out to be wastes of time, but to expect to be able to identify them in advance is as fruitless as trying to guess which check-out line at the grocery store is going to move the fastest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: number 6 Date: 20 Mar 06 - 12:00 PM Copycat threads ... like all threads on the Mudcat ... some I find enjoyable and some I don't. It's a matter of personal taste and a matter of personal interest. There are a lot of non-copycat threads I find that clutter up the threads, but to others they are of personal interest. Who am I to condemn them. "Then there's the constant pasting in of aphorisms by other authors, another completely unoriginal pastime." excellent point Giok. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: JennyO Date: 20 Mar 06 - 12:11 PM Then there are copycat posts - does anybody here actually READ what others have posted just before them??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Alba Date: 20 Mar 06 - 12:29 PM Are you a mind reader Jenny..lol (twilight zone music) I was just going to ask that very same question:) The ways I sees it is. Copycat threads are...copy cats! The banal is just that banal. Some are funny and some are...banal! If a Thread title doesn't interest me I don't generally read it. I feel that way about a lot of things. generally looking at the topic in the subject box concerned and if I think...nah!!! I simply pass on it. I do however read what has gone on in the Threads that I do find interesting before posting. I noticed last night on one thread that someone basically ignored the previous posts on the Thread and set about posting the very same point (at length) as others had already made...now that is a waste of my time reading that. It turns the thread from a discussion to people simply restating what has already been stated with diffrent words. Is that not boring and Copycatting(sp!!)..:) It is to me. Anyways...whatever..if a thread which pokes Humor on the subject of the Vagina, Tampax and Menstural cycles makes some people come over all creative..then..way to go IMO. To me as a Woman, the Vagina, Tampax and Menstural cycles are just things that go with the feminine territory. You all have a Happy Equinox. Jude |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 20 Mar 06 - 12:48 PM Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me..:-) I guess I never got around to putting a trace on a thread that I liked. I also didn't realize that it's the lack of posting for a 24 hour period that pushes threads off the bottom. Thanks for pointing out both of those facts. That eliminates my only complaint about copycat threads. Puns, parodies and playful alteration of words has been a part of folk music since the beginning of time. To weach his zone. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:17 PM . . . to ray sothing of rittle at ridden hod. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Peace Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:19 PM " as fruitless as trying to guess which check-out line at the grocery store is going to move the fastest." The other one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 20 Mar 06 - 09:28 PM It's not so much that we are judging your right to free speech-- it's that you are doing something that causes others actual problems. Whatever these 'actual problems' may be - will you accept that what other posters choose to read, post or ignore remains no one else's business but theirs? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 20 Mar 06 - 09:39 PM Proposal for menbers only posting of BS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Wolfgang Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:40 PM will you accept that what other posters choose to read, post or ignore remains no one else's business but theirs? (Shambles) That's rich coming from someone who never yet has taken this particular advice. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:45 PM Wolfgang, I have to admit-- I've been wondering, since I saw that about 6 hours ago, what difference it makes if I "accept" or don't accept it-- I have no power over others' posts. All I did was offer them some information they may not have realized when they post the copycat threads or opinions in favor of them-- in reply to what they had posted in this thread. I sort of get the feeling I could chase my tail about that all day, trying to figure out how I could "accept" what I already know and act on in this forum every day (and what is obvious and true whether I or anyone else accepts it or not).... and all it would boil down to is Shambles trying to control ME. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:13 PM I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy. Oscar Wilde |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Amos Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:26 PM I think they are mostly just stupid, like people who yell loudly in public places about things of no interest to anyone but themselves. It saddens me when people act stupid, though! :) I never do, of course!! LOL A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bert Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:59 PM Wolfgang, My Mother always told me "If you can't say something nice then don't say anything". So please THINK before you take nasty little digs at other Mudcatters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: LilyFestre Date: 21 Mar 06 - 04:15 PM I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy. LOL...I don't know why but that strikes my funny bone just right!!!! Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:06 PM Bert, could it be that you have been the first one addressed by your mother's advice? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bert Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:08 PM Please THINK before you take nasty little digs at other Mudcatters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:50 PM My Mother always told me "If you can't say something nice then don't say anything". (Bert) Someone starts a thread asking everyone to be nice and it's amazing how the assholes spring out of the woodwork. (Bert) Bert, you amaze me by posting these two messages in short succession. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bert Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:57 PM why? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Mar 06 - 04:02 PM Because it makes you look hypocritical, a description which never before was in my mind when reading your posts. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: The Shambles Date: 24 Mar 06 - 09:38 AM Why would you think this? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Copy Cat threads....?? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 24 Mar 06 - 10:15 AM The Thread Nazis will doubtlessly be pleased with the news that there are absolutely NO copycat threads on the 24-hour screen at this moment! Congratulations on a job well-done! Your bonuses, in the form of discount coupons to have your brown shirts cleaned and pressed, are in the mail. |
