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BS: Vegan Time

open mike 15 Nov 09 - 01:08 PM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Nov 09 - 01:14 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 15 Nov 09 - 01:43 PM
Bat Goddess 15 Nov 09 - 02:38 PM
open mike 15 Nov 09 - 04:32 PM
Janie 15 Nov 09 - 07:24 PM
freda underhill 16 Nov 09 - 07:04 AM
freda underhill 16 Nov 09 - 07:12 AM
SINSULL 16 Nov 09 - 08:13 AM
SINSULL 16 Nov 09 - 08:17 AM
Smedley 16 Nov 09 - 08:54 AM
SINSULL 16 Nov 09 - 09:12 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 16 Nov 09 - 09:33 AM
SINSULL 16 Nov 09 - 10:26 AM
Rasener 16 Nov 09 - 12:51 PM
SINSULL 16 Nov 09 - 01:13 PM
Bonzo3legs 16 Nov 09 - 04:51 PM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 16 Nov 09 - 05:00 PM
Penny S. 17 Nov 09 - 06:31 AM
SINSULL 17 Nov 09 - 08:13 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 17 Nov 09 - 08:59 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 17 Nov 09 - 09:08 AM
WalkaboutsVerse 17 Nov 09 - 09:26 AM
Desert Dancer 17 Nov 09 - 09:27 PM
SINSULL 18 Nov 09 - 08:47 AM
Stringsinger 18 Nov 09 - 01:47 PM
open mike 20 Nov 09 - 02:06 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: open mike
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 01:08 PM

i love the sound of rumblethump...am interested in trying the taste of it , too. this sounds like a great, hearty winter dish..I was at a Ren
Faire where they served up root veggies carrots, turnips, parsnips, potatoes as a dish from the "olden days" so I am thinking you could
put carrots in the rumblethump root veggie combo, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 01:14 PM

"I am disgusted by anything that had a face." -

How about this then...


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 01:43 PM

Above, I mentioned soya juice is nice with coffee, but I'm not so keen on it with tea, hence...

Poem 94 of 230: MOROCCAN TEA

Here's a hint
    Concerning mint.
It's very brief:
    Just pick a leaf
From the backyard,
    And wash if marred;

Leaf, bag, in mug,
    Boil the jug,
Pour in and stir,
    Oust the former.
It's easy, see -
    Moroccan tea...

Well, 'tis roughly.

From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)
Or http://walkaboutsverse.sitegoz.com (e-scroll)
(C) David Franks 2003


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 02:38 PM

Read the labels on prepared stuff like garden burgers, etc. Some have absolutely TOXIC levels of sodium.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: open mike
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 04:32 PM

here's lookin' at ya//

http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/cabbage-face-art-of-vegetable-carving1.jpg

http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/vegetable_art01.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Janie
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 07:24 PM

Oh Gawd, McGrath. You have doomed her to starve!


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: freda underhill
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 07:04 AM

You're right about the salt content BG. many pre-prepared vego foods are high in salt. But enjoy yourself Sinsull, I've been vego for 36 years and couldn't go back. I'm enjoying reading all these recipes and have bookmarked the thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: freda underhill
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 07:12 AM

Vegetarian network Victoria

Firnee is a sort of Afghan custrad and is delicious -

Firnee
Ingredients
2 cups Whole Milk
1 cup Sugar
4 tablespoons Corn Starch
1 tsp. Cardamom
Pistachios
1 capful Rose water

Directions
Mix whole milk with cornstarch and cardamon and rose water in a sauce pan. Bring it to the boil and stir constantly, til it thickens. When the mix comes to a boil, remove from the stove, and put into a shallow serving dish. Refrigerate and serve with finely chopped pistachios sprinkled on top.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:13 AM

McGrath! That was mean!

Does anyone remember the children's show in the 50s where the host learned radish talk and was trying to save the radishes? Sandy somebody.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:17 AM

Sandy Becker and Looney Tunes


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Smedley
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:54 AM

Vegetarian meals are delicious, if prepared by a decent cook. But Quorn is NOT tasy, and pseudo-meat substitutes are beyond ghastly. I also can't see the point of them - if you have objections to eating meat (which I do not share, but I do respect) why on earth would you want to eat horrid parodies of meat ??

Invest in some good veggie cookery books:
Dennis Cotter - Paradiso Seasons
Simon Hopkins - The Vegetarian Option
Colin Spencer - Gourmet Vegetarian


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 09:12 AM

I have to agree Smedley. The smell and taste of meat sickens me right now. I am not looking for substitutes that mimic the smell and taste.

I made a huge pot of lentils and rice with carrots, onions and spices - a bit hot the way I like it. That will make about 8 meals. Some for the freezer. hot or cold on a pile of greens, it is good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 09:33 AM

I have acquired rather a lot of vegetarian cook books over the years! One of the best that I've got for simplicity, variety and practicality is this one:

Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone
I bought my copy second-hand, but it'd be worth it new. Pity it doesn't have many photo's though.

Otherwise, this was a recent gift to me. And it's an amazing piece of work for history, culture, geographic scale, everything.
Veering a tad off topic perhaps, but for anyone interested:

Olive Trees and Honey: A Treasury of Vegetarian Recipes from Jewish Communities Around the World
A sort of curl up in an armchair for the afternoon with a couple of glasses of wine and fantasise book..


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 10:26 AM

Found it on ebay for less than $11 del'd. Hope I get it. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Rasener
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 12:51 PM

Sinsull
Aren't you worried about farting, with all the beans inside you.
Beans affect me badly and if I eat too much of them, I could fart for Britain :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 01:13 PM

LOL Thank you for sharing, Villan.

So far, no unexpected explosions...


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 04:51 PM

Might just as well eat a decent Argentine steak.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 05:00 PM

Hey, why not go for it Bonzo!
Seems there's more left for you afterall.. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Penny S.
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 06:31 AM

Crow sister has mentioned the combining amino acids thing that I was going to refer to. Back in the 60's a couple of books came out of San Francisco with titles like "Eating for a Green Planet". They weren't vegan as they included dairy, eggs and some meat, but lots of recipes based on combining pulses and cereals for example, as well.

We do have a brain facility for developing revulsion to things the body feels wrong. It doesn't always get it right. I had it after my first McDonalds. I went to the first one, by Charing Cross, had a big mac and a milk shake, and by the time I was halfway down the shake, I felt sick. I left it unfinished, left the shop, and was sick. Because of a migraine that was about to happen. But my brain determined that it was the burger, and I felt revulsion every time I passed the arches, or heard the jingle on the TV (it had been playing in the shop). There was a piece in New Scientist about this reflex in rats, introduced by the author with a story of how he made himself with sunstroke, but his brain connected with watermelon. Watermelon was off his menu for a long time.

Not to say that Sinsull's reaction is false. I'd rather trust it than not. It isn't going to make me eat something that's bad for me, while keeping me from something good.

Penny


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 08:13 AM

pulse and cereal? What does that mean?


I developed the flu as a child after my first taste of shrimp. It took years to get past it. This is something different. It has happened before and as I think about it it has always been triggered by my seeing something revolting about the food industry. The last I saw a documentary on chicken processing and couldn't even walk by the meat department in a supermarket without retching. This time it was the ground up baby chicks.

It is as much psychological as physical. So I just go with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 08:59 AM

"pulse and cereal? What does that mean?"

Two of the three core staples you'll ideally keep in your cupboard.
Which (if memory serves correctly..) when any TWO are combined, provide all amino acids required for the body to synthesise complete protein for itself.

Pulses are basically Beans, Peas & Lentils, also referred to as Legumes.
Cereals/Grains include: Wheat, Bulghur, Rice, Oats.

See here:

Pulses
Cereals
Nuts & Seeds

From The Vegetarian Society's Information Index


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 09:08 AM

Oh, definitely get some Quinoa in! It's a pleasant grain, which has a high protein content.
Use it in pilafs, salads, buttered with greens, or plain on the side of stews & curries.

Quinoa - pronounced 'keenwah'


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 09:26 AM

Further to CS on staples - millions in Mexico, e.g., live on (refried) beans and rice; and millions in India on lentils/dahl and rice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 09:27 PM

The NY Times today has 101 things to cook (or prepare) ahead for Thanksgiving -- consequently, the vast majority don't contain meat. (Some are sauces and chutneys, or desserts.) Many yummy sounding things, most quite simple. Click

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Nov 09 - 08:47 AM

I got a deal on Ebay for the Vegetarian cookbook that Crow Sister recommended. It should arrive next week.

I love lentils, beans, pea soup.. Just ate a huge grapefruit for breakfast - the first in over a year since supposedly it will interfere with my meds. Too bad - it was good.

Planning some good things to accompany Jacqui's turkey this Saturday - I won't go hungry. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: Stringsinger
Date: 18 Nov 09 - 01:47 PM

Sinsull, it is physical as well. Processed meats and fish are not good for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Vegan Time
From: open mike
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:06 PM

We have a local farm animal shelter that has a public open house for people to come feed the animals...including turkeys...just before Thanksgiving.http://farmsanctuary.org/farm/ca/

One year they showed some expose' videos at a local theatre
which i am sure must have turned a lot of people into vegetarians.

here is a message i got today from care 2, which sends news about
issues that people are concerned about.

(beware...the pig video is very graphic and not for the squeamish)

http://www.care2.com/causes/animal-welfare/blog/undercover-investigation-shows-the-horrors-of-the-pork-industry/

the "mercyforanimals" video reveals conditions so horrible that i
am not going to post a link here...if you see it, be prepared to
give up bacon, pork, sausage, ham, hot dogs and the like forever!!

After watching it i am not sure i want to eat ANYTHING today!

don't say i didn't warn you...


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