Subject: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Max Date: 13 Jan 09 - 10:17 AM As I am sure you can tell, mudcat is having some problems. I'm working very hard on fixing them, and am trying to limit my work to as late as I can stay up Eastern Standard Time to minimize downtime. Be patient, the fix is likely to be as annoying as the problem until I'm done. Currently I am looking for a temporary host. I am in the process of moving to State College, PA (job at Penn State University) and will be in limbo for months. I don't have a place to live for my family let alone the server, so I need to offload it. Challenging because the mudcat is so big and busy, but that's the goal for now. Also in limbo is the Mudcat bank account. I'm already in State College and don't get back to Philly but once a month. Please do not send checks made out to mudcat or mail them to the PO Box in West Chester. I'm going to get a PO Box here in a few days. If you feel compelled to send money, use paypal until further notice. That's all for now. Max |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Jan 09 - 10:22 AM Well, it's all go isn't it? Thanks for the update, and good luck with all the upheaval. I'm sure all will agree, that your domestic arrangements are far more important than those of Mudcat its self. Keep us posted, and if I can help in any way, please let me know. John |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: MartinRyan Date: 13 Jan 09 - 10:37 AM Best wishes, Max - and good luck with the new job! Regards |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Nancy King Date: 13 Jan 09 - 10:58 AM Aha! Big doings! Thanks for letting us know, Max, and good luck with all the hassle of relocating! Nancy |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Dan Schatz Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:02 AM On behalf of the people of West Chester - indeed all of Chester County - I object! But congrats on the new job. Dan |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:03 AM Yikes. We have plenty of room here, if temp housing for the fam becomes a direction you want to pursue. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:10 AM PS we're about an hour and a half from State College. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:26 AM Thanks for the update, Max. Good luck to you and the family in the move and all. FWIW, you probably already know, but my Rog says there are really cheap "server farms" now available online and they furnish everything so you wouldn't have to have a server, etc. in your home. If it cost a bit more I am sure we could all pitch in more. Interesting article on Server Farms. kat |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:28 AM Now you're working for them? Geeziz, you are beyond hope......Not even a double kick in the balls will help................So you'll be doing like what? Changing JoePa's Depends? Spaw |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: ClaireBear Date: 13 Jan 09 - 11:41 AM Congratulation on the new employment. I hope for a smooth transition for all of you -- and indeed for all of us, though I promise to do my very best to be a patient, go-with-the-flow sort of bear in case it isn't. Max, here's a toast to you (in coffee, but I'm at work so that can't be helped) for your dedication to our Mudcat village. I like this one because it's so full of blessings: Salud, amor y pesetas -- y el tiempo para gustarlos. (Health, love and money -- and the time to enjoy them.) Claire |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: VirginiaTam Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:04 PM Max.. Just want to say that even though I am medically addicted to Mudcat I really appreciate all you do. At least when it is down I don't have an excuse to put off music practice. Congrats and best wishes re the new job. Many thanks Tam P.S for the English Catters Changing JoePa's Depends Depends = Tena |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:25 PM My father's family used to live in that general area, in the tiny town of Salladasburg. Williamsport is nearby, for Mudcat baseball fans (Little League Hall of Fame). I've passed through State College a couple of times--pretty area--but it does seem to be in the middle of nowhere. I think it was my great aunt from Salladasburg who told me that someone drew a couple of N/S E/W lines across the state and plopped the state university down on the axis so that it would be smack in the middle. You might want to update this page (contact information) with your paypal information and remove the West Chester box address. What department are you in? I find your campus email, but in poking through what seem like logical places for someone with all of your talents I haven't found you in a department directory yet. Universities are a great place for people with strong IT skills--every department needs them, and the university at large needs them. (That's why IT Librarians are in such great demand--they know the computer stuff and they can find where the bodies are buried.) :) SRS |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: GUEST,hg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 12:26 PM Max...Very good idea to get into higher education work especially at such a great school and your alma mater, I believe. They are lucky to have you. Real estate is obviously not a place to make a living nowadays. Way to go! harpy (shocked at the positive communication, huh?) |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: VirginiaTam Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:33 PM I wonder, as this thread is meant to be a head's up to Catters of potential off line time, does the title indicate same. I worry that most Catters won't bother to have a look at this thread and then will be freaking when/if Mudcat goes down. I know not my problem... Not my business... Shutting up now. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:37 PM VT, people ALWAYS look at "Max" thread titles. If they don't-- they do the next time around! :~) It's a good reminder to re-save any threads that need preservation in case one wants to work on them during the downtime, and be sure you have email contact info for people you ordinarily PM regularly. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Suegorgeous Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:49 PM Tam Ummm.....what does tena mean?! :( |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: MMario Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:55 PM Also a good time to verify you know about Numachi and have a link to it; and the Mudcat Annex - and a link to it; and folkinfo.org; and a link to it |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 01:56 PM LOL, a good thing to save to disk is the FAQ. I bet it's all in there! :~) ~S~ |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:01 PM The Annexe has been closed down as of today, MMario. Jon noted it in another thread. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: kendall Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:04 PM Max, you'll get nothing from me but gratitude. (Until you tell us your new po box number.) |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:05 PM Numachi? |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:14 PM Sniff Numachi |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: open mike Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:16 PM also check out the mudcat group on facebook...as a back up http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=10793388576 there are 164 members there. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:24 PM Thank you Giok. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:27 PM It's a bugger having The Annexe fold just when it's existence is extra-important. As the saying ought to go, "When one door closes, another shuts..." Best of luck to Max anyway. And I'm sure things will work out OK for the Mudcat too. It's what the Internet was invented for. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:28 PM Facebook link |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: PoppaGator Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:36 PM "Tena" is a brand-name for adult diapers. I've seen it in the US, but it's apparent from the reference in this thread that it's most familiar in the UK. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:52 PM Just been off and signed up for facebook and the Mudcat Cafe group there. A handy facility, but no substitute. Nice seeing the faces though, and trying to work out who they are in Mudcat terms. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Max Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:54 PM I'm working in the Marketing department. So far I'm in charge of marketing: youth (like 4-H and summer camps), environmental (sustainability) & solar energy programs and bronzing JoePa's shoes at the end of every day. I want to warn you that if you think mudcat is addicting, be careful with facebook. Though being an addict already, I recommend it to all of you. It's great fun and a wonderful way to share info, photos, videos & songs, to keep track of what folks like us are up to, and a world class way to waste time. Since the annex is closed, it'll likely be the defacto place to be when the mudcat goes belly up. More soon... |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 09 - 02:56 PM As long as it's only a temporary belly up, I hope!!:-) Congrats on the new job!!! |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 09 - 03:17 PM Well, horses for courses, and that goes especially for addictions. The Mudcat is my drug of choice. I can't see facebook as anything more than a lifeboat at best, no substitute for the Good Ship Mudcat. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: VirginiaTam Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:11 PM it'll likely be the defacto place to be when the mudcat goes belly up. NOOOOOO!!!!!! Facebook is no substitute. Too many bells and whistles.. Too many distractions. Not good for numerous ongoing long discussions. Please don't let the old MudCat die. Shudder. I cannot even comprehend it. Nightmares for me tonight. Dirge for the old MC. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Kampervan Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:17 PM Hey, are we talking potential termination here? If cash can help then I'm sure that there are lots of addicts who would happily contribute a few dollars to make sure that Mudcat carrieed on into thenext millenium> can we help? |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: open mike Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:22 PM songs on facebook? how? i did not notice an audio feature..there... |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:29 PM I still have a web site that I set up about 3 years ago when Mudcat went belly up a lot. It hasn't had much use since, but I have kept it up. I won't give the url for the moment in case the Annexe comes back, but it would do as a contact point in an emergency. We will se how things go for the moment anyway. JM |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:30 PM Max, do they know what a computer and programming whiz you are? Marketing is crucial to universities these days. Those camps are important for exposing potential future students to your campus. My kids both went to Engineering Camp at UT Arlington--a week of residential camp when they were exposed to many aspects of engineering. The school not only wants to recruit future students, the education college wanted to track girls and their success (or lack of) with math and science. These programs are often underwritten by the big engineering firms in the area, because once the sutdents finish college, these firms will be looking to hire them. Good luck! SRS |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: DougR Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:32 PM Congratulations, Max. And good luck! DougR |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Max Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:41 PM Don't worry, mudcat is not going anywhere. It just might be offline for a bit while we get it's home figured out. You know me, it won't be long. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 09 - 04:46 PM So it's sleepovers at facebook and elsewhere, maybe...could be fun.:-) Whose bringing the popcorn? Thanks, Max!!! |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Jan 09 - 05:05 PM Hot buttered and salted? |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: VirginiaTam Date: 13 Jan 09 - 05:10 PM Whew! What a relief. And John MacKenzie you are a star. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 09 - 05:22 PM kat...I'm not finding a Mudcat thread about the Annexe being closed. It was announced on the Annexe earlier today. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: CarolC Date: 13 Jan 09 - 05:29 PM In the absence of the Annexe, I would like to offer my own forum as a place for people to communicate about Mudcat's status when it's down. Membership is required to post but not to read... http://www.acousticguitartalktalktalk.yuku.com/directory The Talk Talk Talk forum is the main discussion forum. We also have two chat rooms people can use if they want. We are not currently ad free, but that can change. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 09 - 06:31 PM There was no specific thread, |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: CarolC Date: 13 Jan 09 - 06:33 PM I'm sorry, but I don't think I was the one who said whatever was being responded to in the above post mentioning my name. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 09 - 06:36 PM No, I think it was me she was speaking to,Carol |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: open mike Date: 13 Jan 09 - 06:57 PM wasn't there once a chat room of some sort across the pond, besides the annexe? Perhaps hosted by Giok ? Is that the one you are talking about John Mackenzie? |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 09 - 06:58 PM Oh, and BTW, Carol...you have MY permission to say MY name anytime you need to!!!!! |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: CarolC Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:04 PM Thanks, but I dare not. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: GUEST,biff Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:11 PM sorry about your troubles Max, I was starting to take it personally |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: kendall Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:13 PM I recently became a member of Facebook. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:14 PM Great picture of you there Carol... |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sorcha Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:16 PM Yes, I understand, poster of 13 Jan 09 - 07:04 PM. This is getting just a bit ridiculous, IMO |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:34 PM Don't worry, mudcat is not going anywhere. It just might be offline for a bit while we get it's home figured out. You know me, it won't be long. Yes, Max, we do, and that is why Mudcat is not like anywhere else on the Net and ALSO why it will always get so much traffic that it gives you a PIA. :~) See PM if you have minute, with a possible State College lead. Say, folks-- don't mudcats go all dormant in winter mud anyway? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 09 - 07:46 PM Here's a page I came across with a list of internet places people (more especially UK people)might meet up in if the Cat's away a bit. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Joe_F Date: 13 Jan 09 - 08:29 PM I heard, once, that, once, some folks in State College thought that that was an unimaginitive name for a town, so they set up a poll for an improved name, which had to be abandoned because the students voted overwhelmingly for "Dead Center". Enjoy. %^) |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bugsy Date: 14 Jan 09 - 12:15 AM Max, you've done a fantastic job with Mudcat all these years. I can only say THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, From the bottom of my heart. Cheers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Jan 09 - 12:54 AM I hope Susan is able to do her networking and help you find a place, Max. Wouldn't it be great if this worldwide network of yours was able to give back a little, after all you've given us? There is no place else like Mudcat. My family's home in Salladasburg, once an old inn (built at the turn of the 19th century), was turned into a Bed and Breakfast in 1994, and as small as the town is, the amenities and connectivity wouldn't be what you need, so I won't offer directions. But it is a pretty drive up that way come summer. I wonder what the next iteration of the Mudcat Tavern is going to look like? It does tend to tag along with Max, though he probably doesn't visit it. The current one is, I think, in his most recent back yard. Even with it's giant squid and all of the doors for world travel, it happily changes location when necessary. The landscape usually follows. :) SRS |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 14 Jan 09 - 02:50 AM thanks for everything, Max Tho I will miss my Mudcat while you're re-locating sandra |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: JohnInKansas Date: 14 Jan 09 - 03:24 AM With the number of mentions of Facebook, and the apparent number of people already there, an accidental connection that I stumbled onto might be of interest. A friend who recently "signed in" there commented on the settings being a bit confusing (or maybe the term used was "ambiguous.") The AV producers at Sophos have provided some suggestions: Facebook - Privacy settings recommended by Sophos. There are about five links in that article, to more specific suggestions for security, privacy, search, feeds, pokes, etc. Each setting is briefly described, with some suggestions about what you may be exposed to if you use other settings. An easy read, and not at all "dictatorial" about what you must do; but of course I haven't actually tried getting to any of the settings, so you're on your own for now. John |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Jan 09 - 05:44 AM Had a couple of PMs asking about my possible alternative site, for use if Mudcat goes off air temporarily, so here is the addy for those interested. failtefolk.net You will see I have created a Mudcat category. JM |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:09 AM bookmarked! |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:30 AM Well, I just tried to register and I gave my email address, which is an @gmail.com one, and checked that I'd typed it correctly both times - and It said my address was invalid. Oh no it isn't!! It's the one I've been using for years, and is the same one I have registered for Mudcat. Whassup, John? Also, in the type-these-figures-as-you-see-them spamfooler, the last character goes outside the box and is not fully visible. Looked like a K, but you can't be sure. But I never got that far . . . :-( I think we need to agree on a venue in which we can all go nurse our withdrawal symptoms, and failtefolk.net looks good to me (if I can get in). I have nothing against Facebook but it has way too big a footprint for what I want. I'm not going to join a whole social networking scheme when all I want is my daily fix. And my vote to John's site, provided he'll tell me how to register. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Mr Happy Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:33 AM Is there a cut off date imminent for the 'cat? |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:35 AM Well Bonnie, I am flummoxed for the moment. Can you PM me with the details, and I will try to speak with the site provider, on your behalf. John I agree on the Facebook thing BTW, it can be intrusive. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:35 AM PS: Do we need a whole separate thread discussing (and hopefully agreeing) a new alternative venue, so everyone is alerted to the question (and also so this one doesn't get hi-jacked)? I must say, I do like the idea of something with a moderator or some form of control. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:49 AM I've registered - without problems part from trying to log in before registering! (when all else fails, read the instructions, sandra) Confirmation arrived & I eagerly await admin approval. Thanks, John sandra Bonnie - I agree about Facebook - I also have no interest in joining a huge social network full of zillions of bells & whistles JiK - many thanks for the Sophos articles. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Colin Randall Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:49 AM Some sites don't like gmail/hotmail/yahoo type e-mail addresses for some reason. A few I'm signed up to approve registration only if I use my work address. I am sure there are technical explanations for thos but they would be beyond me |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 14 Jan 09 - 06:57 AM Ah... good point, Colin. Yes, I've heard that too. They think (and not without reason) that those cloud ones are too easy to fake, and want you to have a Proper server. John - I've PM'd you, but hang fire and let me try again with one of my other email addresses. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 14 Jan 09 - 07:01 AM Diddit. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: VirginiaTam Date: 14 Jan 09 - 07:35 AM Another thing to consider using Facebook as an interim forum is attracting wider audience to Mudcat when it is up and running fully. Who follows us from Facebook to Mudcat can be both positive and negative. Just something to think about. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 14 Jan 09 - 08:07 PM Facebook looks fun in its way, but with all the friends of friends and the picking and choosing who's your friend and who isn't, it's a bit too much like some aspects of school, all those years ago. Thanks for that, John of Kansas Facebook - Privacy settings recommended by Sophos. Otherwise it all might get a bit overwhelming over there. That "limited friends" option might be especially useful. Mudcat rules OK. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: katlaughing Date: 15 Jan 09 - 12:51 AM Mr. Happy, to answer your question, no, there is no imminent date. Max is moving house, Mudcat, etc. to where his new job is, across the state of Pennsylvania. He has just warned us that Mudcat may be a little unstable as they find a temp. home for it, etc.:-) Thanks, John Mac, for the link to your site! |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: John MacKenzie Date: 15 Jan 09 - 06:31 AM It's there for the use of Mudcatters suffering from withdrawal symptoms, and all are welcome kat. A few have visited, and a few have joined. There is a small chatroom attached too, for those who are that way inclined. John 'G' BTW for those who may not have realised, my handle on my own site is 'Cugiok', a play on the Glasgow greeting 'See you Jimmy' ;) |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 15 Jan 09 - 07:36 AM > It's there for the use of Mudcatters suffering from withdrawal symptoms, and all are welcome Yeah, you guys, c'mon over next time there's a Catnap. My little post is getting lonely . . . |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 Jan 09 - 09:32 AM I posted an experimental post & it worked (tho again I didn't read the instructions & saved instead of submitting first & wondered what was going on. sandra |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: breezy Date: 15 Jan 09 - 09:44 AM All the best max, sorry. Max Thanks for providing the 'fix' and I thought it was only me |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Mr Happy Date: 15 Jan 09 - 10:18 AM Just a thought, as the Annexe's unexpectedly bit the dust, if Folkinfo'd be a place for music topics? http://www.folkinfo.org/forum/forum.php |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 15 Jan 09 - 02:58 PM I only read Mudcat from work. They have blocked most sites like Facebook, Myspace, blogs, and music downloading sites. I have been very grateful that Mudcat has not been included in one of these groupings. Most of the alternatives being suggested will be blocked. Buy, hey, it is probably just my problem. I have gone through 'Cat withdrawal before, I can do it again. I hope. Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 15 Jan 09 - 03:24 PM MySpace keeps on refusing to recognise my password, which is the same one I use here, so so I have to go round the houses reinstalling it as a new password before they let me in. And next time they won't recognise it again. I doubt if I'll be going there too often at this rate. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: Mrs.Duck Date: 15 Jan 09 - 06:55 PM My new job also block mudcat! Very annoying. Also block my e mail as its web based. |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: MMario Date: 15 Jan 09 - 09:52 PM I have to use a backdoor from work. For years I was unable to login at all if viewing from work, I could read everything, but had to be Guest:MMario |
Subject: RE: From Max: Mudcat Stuff From: open mike Date: 17 Jan 09 - 03:25 PM the annex was a part of the folkinfo site and they have chosen not to host an alternative (mud) cat site there. |
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