BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Peace
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 12:49 AM

I was sick as hell in 1968. I now think it was "The Asian Flu strain [that] later evolved via antigenic shift into H3N2 which caused a milder pandemic from 1968 to 1969.[8]" If the stuff going around today is like that then shoot yourself now because you'll wish you had if you get it but you will not have the strength to pull the trigger.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Lox
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 06:32 AM

Me and my daughter had it ...

it lasted a few days, we felt hot, and then we got better.

I think H1N1 was a storm in a teacup.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 08:14 AM

H1N1 makes it sound like it's got something to do with chickens...

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 08:28 AM

The current standard flu vaccine:

    * an A/Brisbane/59/2007 (H1N1)-like virus; *
    * an A/Brisbane/10/2007 (H3N2)-like virus; **
    * a B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus.

*A/Brisbane/59/2007 is a current vaccine virus; A/South Dakota/6/2007 (an A/Brisbane/59/2007-like virus) is a current vaccine virus used in live attenuated vaccines.
**A/Brisbane/10/2007 and A/Uruguay/716/2007 (an A/Brisbane/10/2007-like virus) are current vaccine viruses.

From fda.gov

I think the current swine flu CAN be serious, but not in most cases. I'm not worried about it. At least not more worried than I am about getting any variety of flu.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 09:27 AM

Good to know you are home safe, Alice.   I still have dodgy tummy since vaccine on Wednesday night. Just hurts and little appetite, because every time I eat or drink it feels like someone has kicked me in the belly.

Notice my joints are worse than they have ever been, so maybe the tummy thing has to do in the arthritis. It is supposed to kill appetite when very bad. Maybe I will lose some weight. That would be good.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 09:47 AM

WikiPedia on

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 07:55 PM

The only way to be certain that what you have is swine flu, is if you have an irresistable urge to make love in the mud.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 12:25 PM

I initially thought my H1N1 experience was mild, no big deal.

It seemed like I had a cold afterward for a few weeks and then....
BAM - pneumonia. Serious pneumonia that layed me low for 2 weeks. I'm just now coming out of it. I missed two solid weeks of work, flat out in bed, and still don't feel up to driving for work.

When the severe pneumonia symptoms started, I dragged myself to the doctor and she said she would let me go home to recover instead of admitting me to the hospital. It has been scary.

So, my message is to watch out for the respiratory infection component of this virus. We didn't have the H1N1 vaccine here in time for me to be vaccinated before the virus swept through the community. The more I read about this virus, the more common I see my experience is with pneumonia as part of this flu.

Build up your immune system with antioxidants. This is nothing to "sneeze" at. Take care, everyone.

Alice

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 12:32 PM

science daily, "Influenza's Achilles heel, antioxidants"

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:10 PM

I think it's good you've shared this experience/knowledge - hope you are fully well soon, Alice.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:55 PM

Take it easy Alice.....I spent those two weeks in September in the hospital and I'm just now getting back to normal, or whatever passes that way for me.

Finally was able to get an H1N1 yesterday when my group became eligible.

We all love you Alice......Take it slow.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:58 PM

thanks

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 05:43 PM

Now I am scared again.

Last year I came down with flu 2 days before my appointment to get the flu jab. I was sick for 3 months.    Had to go on inhaler. This year I was not on the list to receive the seasonal flu vaccine, but when I asked about it, they gave it to me anyway.

Now I am off the swine flu vaccine list and the receptionist went berserk when I tried to explain how I was accidentally missed off seasonal flu jab and that I needed to speak to practice manager about whether or not it was necessary for me to have the swine flu jab. It is complicated - I will soon be on immune suppressant therapy again. Had another RA flare, but don't see the rheumatologist until 1st December.

Receptionist shouted at me and told me not to bother the practice manager. That if I am supposed to receive the vaccine, I will get either a call or a letter.

Think I will just stick to drinking Welch's Concord grape juice. It is really high in antioxidants. And hope for the best.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Jeri
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 06:00 PM

A receptionist is NOT a medical professional. Go back or call and be polite, but be persistent. Nothing more shaming than having a patient act more professional than the employees.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 12:18 AM

This Works!!!!! 'Lomatium'. You can get it from the health food store for between 15 and 17 dollars. (20) is too much. Several people we know who have had H1N1, and taken Lomatium, were over it within TWO DAYS. Also, drink 'Pedialite', 'Gatorade', or 'Powerade', because the virus attacks the electrolytes. If anyone, starts to get the preceding cough, that comes on the onset of 'swine flu' take Lomatium, as soon as you can get to it, and you WILL avoid coming down with it. Lomatium, builds your 'T' cells.

It comes as a liquid, with an eye dropper. Mix about 15 drops in some water, and shoot it down(because it tastes pretty funky), but with water, you can hardly notice it. This does work!!! You'll see!

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 07:06 PM

I've had two bouts of very mild flu-ey (with weird head stuff) things since it got here, and haven't bothered a doctor. The first one, in August, had a mild temperature, and the second had a soreness in the upper chest for about a day and a half - I think that is most likely to have been the swine flu because there were properly diagnosed cases at the school. Neither had rhinovirus stuff.

While the second one had me in bed, I read in New Scientist that temperature can't be relied on as a symptom, and gut problems can occur.

I've had much worse flu. I had to call my parents to get me once, as I could not look after myself, and I lost a whole day of consciousness with it. That was in the 70s or 80s.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 06:15 PM

Found Lomatium, liquid herbal extract, at our local food co-op yesterday. Tastes kind of like pine pitch, even though it is from a tap root. I'm trying it in hopes that it will help! Found interesting info about it on the 'net. Thanks. Alice

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 06:27 PM

I've been sick for 2 weeks now, thats why I am posting so much lately. At night and early mornings the cough and nose gifts are yucky but at least I am ambulatory by day. I don't think its flu since the fever is only a degree.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 25 Nov 09 - 11:45 AM

I didn't have a high fever, but it was definitely H1N1. There was no other flu strain in Montana at the time, and so many people had it that the health dept eventually quit testing, because the results were all H1N1 strain.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Nov 09 - 02:59 AM

Alice, Tell me if you're getting results and feeling better. Take 15 drops in water 3 times a day. If it works pass the word!!!!!! We don't want people feeling sicker than necessary!!
Warmest(but not feverish)Regards,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 26 Nov 09 - 01:14 PM

I don't know if it is just the natural healing of time, but I think the Lomatium is loosening up stuff and my lungs feel like they are clearing better.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 12:59 AM

Hey Alice, Keep me posted, ok?? I really hope this works for you!

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 01:12 AM

Alice, the Lomatium, feeds the 'T' cells, that naturally attack the virus. It should seem natural...because it is. Unlike pharmaceuticals, it isn't a symptomatic relief, that you should be feeling..but rather your body, beating this thing, by being 'fed' by the Lomatium. I think whatever link you found should explain that. Anyway, you should start experiencing a natural, steady healing, immediately!!
Regards,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 01:25 AM

Lomatium dissectum ??

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 11:47 AM

I just looked it up, to see. That is it, I believe.
I've got some other things that would blow you away, but I'll wait to here from Alice, to see how she is doing. (Things that would prevent any of this stuff).

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 12:09 PM

I'm still taking the Sambucol CLICK

and Lomatium dissectum. I found the fresh root made into an herbal liquid extract at my local food co-op. It's made by Herb Pharm, in Oregon, Click Here. The roots are wild crafted in the Cascade mountains. The extract is made from fresh (undried) roots.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 01:25 PM

Alice, How are you doing, and feeling??

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 02:08 PM

I'm better. My lungs are clearing up, but still coughing especially in the morning. I'm trying to take it easy so I have enough energy by next Monday to get back on the road and travel to work in Butte. I don't want to push it and then relapse. Can't afford to miss any more work. It's a good thing this is a long holiday weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 03:38 PM

Keep taking it, you're going to be alright! Add some good vitamin D, and C. In the grocery stores there's some stuff called 'Emergen-C' It comes in packets that you dilute with water. Do that, and you'll feel a difference within 15 minutes, plus you need to feed your cells. Don't forget "Pedialite" for your electrolytes. You'll have this kicked in no time. Glad to hear that your progress is going well!!!!
You've had this for so long, your system is probably worn down from battling it as long as its been. Keep truckin'!
Warmest Regards to you,
GfS

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 10:12 PM

I can't believe it!~!.....someone isn't arguing with me!!(Just kidding, but it beats typing 'refresh')

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 10:32 PM

Thanks, GfS.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 02:22 AM

You're most welcome!
Anytime.


(Jeez, that's the first time on here anyone's thanked me for anything, and I've been giving you good stuff all along)

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 02:11 AM

Ohhh, Alice.......How ya' feelin'?

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: Alice
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 01:11 PM

I think this is going to take me some time to feel well again, because my lungs still tend to fill up at night when I lay down, my eyes all puffed up around them when I wake up in the morning. Need to just keep working at getting better. I do have to go back to work tomorrow.
It's not unusual for pneumonia to be a long recovery. If only I could be on a warm beach in the sun somewhere! Oh, well. Better prep for work tomorrow. I always travel with my vitamins and supplements, so I'll be taking them every day, including the lomatium.

Subject: RE: BS: H1N1 flu, I think I have it
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 01:14 PM

Good! Take the 'Pedialite' for electrolytes as well. Your system is plenty worn down, fighting this for so long!