BS: How much information does your IP give ?

Subject: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: GUEST,Computer dumb bell
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 12:45 PM

I know it is possible to locate someones ip address, but just how much information does this search reveal ? I read it is now so good they can pinpoint an actual room in a college were a message was sent from.

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 04:32 PM

most broadband ISp's use dynamic TCP/IP to make it difficult for hackers. But that doesn't mean the ISP does not know who is connected. I would think they would want to guard the data to prevent hackers getting too much of a foothold. But I have no concrete information.

Some large companies refuse to recieve e-mail from a user who has dynamic TCP/IP which is a pain. So the ISP provides a static one, but it costs more so we can assume they have engage protection which is not as cost effective.

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:22 PM

It depends...if one knows the IPs of a group where a 'name' is connected, like in Mudcat, it ought to be reasonably easy to sort out one from another. That does NOT means knowing your street address or real name. That info would be available only from your ISP, usually with a good cause..(i.e. a court order) The IP does 'usually' give an indication of wher in general you are...country, city.

Someone from Miami, calling themselves Rumplestiltskin, could be reasonably anonymous in a forum such as this....that is, no one could drive up to your door.

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:24 PM

A lot. It can give a lot.

Check out ARIN, for instance. But to explain it all would require an essay I'm not willing to write.

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 08:00 PM

Max has IP2 program to find email origins. Or type the IP address into ARIN. very easy. Max can locate anyone who types on mudcat, can't you Max?

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 06:53 PM

10.0.1.49 is an IP address of LookAtMyCrazyShoes.com a UK based outfit who like to send junk forever after you buy from them.

and WhoIs tell me

NetRange:   10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
CIDR:       10.0.0.0/8
NetName:    RESERVED-10
NetHandle: NET-10-0-0-0-1
Parent:   
NetType:    IANA Special Use
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG
Comment:    This block is reserved for special purposes.
Comment:    Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
Comment:   
RegDate:   
Updated:    2002-09-12


go figure

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 03 Nov 06 - 09:07 PM

One can tell the Whois people to withhold personal contact information. That is what they must have done, otherwise you'd also get addresses, etc. This is a better example:

Domain ID:D1161968-LROR
Domain Name:MUDCAT.ORG
Created On:12-Sep-1997 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:21-Aug-2006 22:57:27 UTC
Expiration Date:11-Sep-2009 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:22181690-NSI
Registrant Name:Mudcat Cafe
Registrant Organization:Mudcat Cafe
Registrant Street1:7 West Gay St
Registrant Street2:Suite A
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:West Chester
Registrant State/Province:PA
Registrant Postal Code:19380
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[e-mail]
Admin ID:16930203-NSI
Admin Name:Max D Spiegel
Admin Street1:PO Box 3006
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:WEST CHESTER
Admin State/Province:PA
Admin Postal Code:19381
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.6---------
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.6---------
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[e-mail]
Tech ID:16930203-NSI
Tech Name:Max D Spiegel
Tech Street1:PO Box 3006
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:WEST CHESTER
Tech State/Province:PA
Tech Postal Code:19381
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6---------
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.6---------
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[e-mail]
Name Server:NS55.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server:NS56.WORLDNIC.COM

(I blanked the phone and fax nos. to be nice.)

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 05:38 AM

and then you could just post your grandpa's first name and the title of a song he taught you and your mom's cousin's song will track you down via google as happened to me last week! Granted that was a pleasant thing, but it just goes to show you that in merely talking about ourselves, we give away enough detail that a motivated person can find us.

My Cousin musta been googling on some song names and first names or.. town names since I included that and up popped my mudcat post!

Subject: RE: BS: How much information does your IP give ?
From: kendall
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 05:56 AM

Jeez, I'm not ready for the 21st century. Hell, I'm not ready for the 20th century!