Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 09:05 AM

That's interesting Lighter ~ down to the lawyers to argue

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 09:25 AM

Lighter is correct, Ray. Under US constitutional rules, a Presidential Term ends at noon on the 20th January.

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/constitution-center/constitution/presidential-terms/

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 11:14 AM

My original post above is a quote from a court case ~ the following is evidence to the contrary so it is as I say down to legal interpretation as to whether Big T was deemed President and thus had Presidential immunity of sorts or not ~imv

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 11:24 AM

No, r.padgett, it isn't down to legal interpretation. The election is in November but the new president isn't sworn in until January 20 of the following year. Everything up until that point Trump owns. Full stop.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Lighter
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 11:31 AM

There's no doubt he was still President. The question is whether he was acting in the performance of his official duties.

His argument will be that he was simply informing the crowd that, as President, he was thoroughly convinced the election was rigged and that they should walk "peacefully" (the word he used) to the Capitol to demonstrate. He will argue that he was carrying out his absolute duty to urge and influence Congress to reject the "fraudulent" results. He never exhorted anyone to storm the building, much less vandalize it, fight the police, and threaten Congress.

If the Trumpy Supreme Court buys that argument, he's home free.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 11:34 AM

“President Trump has not shown that the Speech reasonably can be understood as falling within the outer perimeter of his Presidential duties,” Mehta wrote. “The content of the Ellipse Speech confirms that it is not covered by official-acts immunity.”


The 79-page ruling, years in the making, follows numerous efforts by Trump to scuttle the lawsuit by claiming he is protected by presidential immunity from liability for his actions on the day of the Capitol Riot and in the weeks leading up to that event.

But the decision also portends years of additional litigation and appeals, likely ensuring that Trump will be contending with the lawsuits for the remainder of his presidency. It also prolongs the wait for a resolution to one of the last remaining efforts by that day‘s victims to pursue accountability. from an email from politico

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 01:04 PM

BBC ticker, all Breaking News:

* Trump says there'll be an "important national address" this (Wednesday) evening.
* Trump claims on social media that Iran has asked for a ceasefire.
* Trump attends Supreme Court debate on birthright citizenship.

.... I was wondering which of them is the April fool's joke, but then I remembered the Eternal September Wikipedia entry (qv). Mesdames et messieurs: welcome to the Eternal April Fools' Day.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 10:03 PM

Among the many lies in his address he said, "The new regime in Iran is much less radical and dangerous..."

The son of the murdered Ayatollah has also lost his wife and children.

Mojtaba Khamenei, the newly appointed Supreme Leader of Iran, has reportedly lost at least eight immediate family members in the Trump invasion, including his father, mother, wife, and son...

Do you think he may be as radical and extreme with a sense of retribution as humanly possible?

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Apr 26 - 10:05 PM

Consensus among those in the media with common sense is that Drumpf lit a match in the firework stand and now he's bailing out, leaving a lot more radical power structure in place in Iran.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Apr 26 - 12:48 AM

The majority, in its decision in the case known as Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump, said on Feb. 20 that a president does not have the authority to unilaterally impose tariffs on imports from most countries under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as Trump had claimed.

“Based on two words separated by 16 others in Section 1702(a)(1)(B) of IEEPA —‘regulate’ and ‘importation’ — the President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on imports from any country, of any product, at any rate, for any amount of time,” wrote Chief Justice John Roberts in the majority decision.

“Those words cannot bear such weight,” wrote Roberts, who, like Gorsuch and Barrett, is a conservative.~ Supreme Court ruling

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Apr 26 - 12:55 AM

Big T continues to show his propensity to act like a dictator ~he acted illegally and took US forces as a private army too

How can US allow and vote such a plonker in twice to be President ~he is a laughing stock ~or would have been had the legal errors and appointments not been so fundamentally wrong

Good that the judges followed the law including those he appointed

Good 'elp us

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Apr 26 - 02:16 PM

Another rat thrown overboard: Trump removes US attorney general Pam Bondi

Summary

• Pam Bondi has been removed as US attorney general in the Trump administration
  
  
• Trump posted on Truth Social that Bondi "will be transitioning to a much needed and important new job in the private sector"
  
  
• Todd Blanche will be acting attorney general, Trump confirmed
  
  
• Bondi and the justice department has faced criticism over its handling of the Epstein files, including failing to redact the names of victims
  
  
• Under Bondi's leadership, the justice department has pursued a number of criminal investigations into political opponents of the president, including New York Attorney General Letitia James and ex-FBI Director James Comey
  
  
• Bondi's departure as attorney general does not come as a surprise - although the timing seems sudden, writes White House reporter Bernd Debusmann Jr
  

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Apr 26 - 08:43 PM

Apparently the orange one was as fidgety as a schoolboy in the Supreme Court when he appeared for the birthright citizenship hearing. From RawStory:

'Fidgeting' Trump had to be moved during Supreme Court hearing: ACLU attorney
Donald Trump’s unprecedented appearance at the Supreme Court encompassed both a request that his seat be moved and the reported inability of the president to hold still while lawyers made their case before the nation’s highest court.

Appearing on MS NOW with host Jonathan Lemire, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero stated the president sat right in front of him, so he had a ringside seat to watch the president react to arguments over his attempt to override the 14th Amendment on birthright citizenship.

Romero, who was beaming over how well it went for the ACLU after conservative justices battered Solicitor General John Sauer with questions about Trump’s executive order, pointed out that he would not be overly surprised if the court comes down 9-0 (”if we’re really lucky”) against Trump.

That led him to report on what he saw from Trump in the crowded courtroom.

“Could you see him from your vantage point? If so, what was he like?” MS NOW’s Lemire asked.

“He was six feet in front of me... he was literally right in front of me,” he recalled. “I was one row behind him, the Secret Service and then the president, so I could watch him entirely throughout the argument. Some of the press reports also got it wrong. Some of the press reports said that he left after the government had its case; the president sat through at least 10 to 15 minutes of our argument.”

“I could see him fidgeting in the chair. I literally could see him, he was literally in my line of vision,” he added. “And when our legal director, Cecillia Wang, made her opening statements, and then when she began to answer questions from the justices, you could see he started getting restless. His shoulders slumped a little bit.”

“I think he was there, clearly to intimidate the justices,” he added. “When they first had him, they sat him on the very end of the front row. And then the Commerce Secretary, Mr. [Howard] Lutnick got up and told the security guards that Mr. Trump would like to be seated more centrally in the courtroom. So they moved him literally right in front of us.”

“And then it was clear that he was endeavoring to put his thumb on the scale. He was endeavoring to glower at the justices to kind of intimidate them, almost defy them to rule against him,” he continued. “And what was remarkable, and this really is a testament that our system of checks and balances is working, that it's a coequal branch of government. Donald Trump is a guest in the Supreme Court. This is Chief Justice Roberts’ house. And there was not a mention, they did not miss a beat when he walked in, the courtroom got quiet. When he walked out, no one missed a beat.”

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 02:51 AM

The evidence is all there. What a pity that US needs to have a winkle picker to get him behave himself and behave in a proper Presidential manner

He is still a dictator on "a frolic of his own"

Ray (uk)

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 06:33 AM

Bondi was banished from the King's Court for not creating evidence and properly framing Trump's enemies. The courts all said she had no evidence.

Expect dubious evidence from now on.

Rome had Julius Caesar and Caligula. England has Charles and John.
We have Trump.

When all is said and done We all will pay thousands for Trump's War.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 09:03 AM

So Big T is going to cease all the Oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz ~ presumably in an Act of Piracy? as US does not have right to the Oil

Sacked 12 High ranking Army personnel as Big T did not like their advice

It would of course attract a charge of Treason if Big T gave orders to attack Kharg Island and they refused ~ did Big T not see that episode of Sharpe? I assume

He is completely out of control and will not take proper advice

Iran will fight to the bitter end it seems ~ agreements made under duress are a bit iffy to say the least

For goodness sake remove the man

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 09:04 AM

References to ‘the King of England’ or similar are uninformed nonsense. There is no such person as the ‘King of England’. The King’s correct title is…

”Charles III, by the Grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith."

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 09:06 AM

sorry seize above post!!

And now Big T says that domestic spending on Welfare an Health and similar is no longer affordable due to war expenditure

Get rid of this waste of snap

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 09:12 AM

"Trump: We need $2 billion a day to reopen the Strait of Hormuz

China's FM Senator: But the Strait of Hormuz was already open before the war? The root cause of this disruption is your illegal military operations against Iran.

You have created a Global Crisis OUT OF NOTHING”

from X

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: robomatic
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 03:53 PM

Isn't there a quote from W.Churchill: "I like to be around when things happen, and if they don't happen, I like to MAKE them happen.!"

My God, what am I saying?

Don't read this post. Never never never read this post!

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 26 - 10:30 PM

I finished a blog post that is general observations about the signs carried in these anti-Drumpf marches, and it occurred to me that someone else might also think they'll end up in a museum some day. Here's one at least, a writer from BuzzFeed. A couple of my favorites: "This is my Resisting Bitch Face" and a drawing of a paper towel roll with his face on it and the slogan "The Quicker Fucker Upper" (for those not in the US, the slogan for Bounty Paper towels is "the quicker picker-upper.")

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Apr 26 - 02:28 PM

If and when this war ends the reprisals afterwards will be more savage than the war for the US and Iranians for years to come.
Forgiveness is highly unlikely.

Will Tom Clancy write about the resurrection of buried nuclear weapons and radioactive materials in the USA by Russia during the Cold War?
When Russia conspires with Iran, the hunt for the lost burial sites begins.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 04 Apr 26 - 04:39 PM

Lily livered Republican Senators should stop this war now and impeach Big T

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Helen
Date: 04 Apr 26 - 08:06 PM

I've had a thought. :-D

Maybe tRump should take War-fare-in' instead of his extra doses of aspirin - i.e. his "more is better" strategy of taking more than the dose prescribed by his doctor.

The blood thinner medication called Warfarin has a side effect of increasing blood loss which endangers lives if an injury occurs. And you have to admit the name is appropriate for a President intent on war-faring in as many countries as he can. (I am sure that RFK Jr would approve of him taking that medication. NOT!)

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 01:28 AM

I suspect Big T will have a big fan fare when he meets his maker ~ he may lie himself into being the boss ~but hey he can't take it with him?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 01:43 AM

Big T is flummoxed ~ total loss as he does not know how to win the peace

He confuses total demolition with winning the hearts and minds of a foreign sovereign country, that is prepared to fight to the last breathe ~ who can trust Big T with a tea bag?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 10:21 AM

The Fat, Ugly, Orange, Bollock-brained Baboon on his Truth Social platform today…

”Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP"

Is this REALLY the kind of language the world expects from the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth? How low can the US go?

Utterly shameful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm29zmpdj3vt?post=asset%3A4d42d26e-24c3-4468-ad3e-a768d10d4374#post

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Aethelric
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 11:57 AM

”Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP"

This would be a war crime, and the idiot, and any armed force personnel who carry it out will be guilty of a war crime.
"I was only following orders" is NOT an excuse, as established at Nuremberg.
They could, and should, be arrested if they ever leave the USA.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 12:43 PM

I think that ship sailed a long time ago, Aethelric.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 12:52 PM

Diddums has been begging for a spanking ever since the Escalator Incident. As Herself has just pointed out, him using the above language is likely to yield a fatwa on him personally.

Mission accomplished. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Helen
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 02:50 PM

It is interesting to me that on the anniversary celebration of the day that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, tRump is pushing angrily for war and retribution - although he only *claims* to be a Christian when it suits his dark and messy purposes.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Apr 26 - 08:05 PM

War should only be used as a last resort. This was a last resort for a pedophile who wants distraction and impunity.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Apr 26 - 08:15 AM

Trump is bullying, swearing at, and vulgarly yelling at Iran as if it were Rosie O'Donnell. Same old tantrum, different day. In his effort to humiliate every ally, he has finally reached a limit, when a bully has no one left to stand behind him.

Other psychotic, senile leaders have ordered the destruction of their own countries and people when defeat is close, as if to punish.
The bully Hitler made such orders, as well as the burning of Paris.
Adolf had reached his limit, and his final orders were mostly ignored.

The powers that be will not allow Trump to do the same. What will remain is a cold war for decades, and the innocent dead.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 06 Apr 26 - 12:47 PM

> The powers that be will not allow Trump to do the same.

I was going to lament the wholesale replacement of real soldiers at the top by Corporal Bonespurs' pet idiots; then I remembered the old saying that the army is run by its sergeants, not the top brass.* Methinks someone, somewhere along the chain of command, will have long since removed the batteries from The Nuclear Button, or replaced it by the Fisher-Price mockup prototype, in case Diddums wakes up from a(nother) nightmare. And that's before we consider the checks and balances in the chain of command, which will doubtless be being carefully revised in the aftermath of Operation Epstein Fury.

* A trope that Sir Pterry made good use of in (eg) The Night Watch.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 26 - 12:49 PM

One can only hope.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Apr 26 - 02:33 PM

I am of the opinion that this is a War manufactured directly Big T with backing from Netanyahu
It is war that should never have been, based on fear and misinformation that Iran had wmds (sounds familiar!) or weapons to be afraid of

AS I have said before the war is still illegal and all the damage needs to be paid by Trump himself

It's no point simply praising the private/US forces for the heroic actions they would demonstrate in the 2 lost pilots being retrieved ~ they would now wouldn't they ~ but it is nothing to do with Big T

What is needed is an apology from Big T and monetary recompense and physical help to reinstate the infrastructure of Iran


I rarely say this but Big T is wrong and had baseless reasons for starting a war

Israel must stop shelling Lebanon NOW

Now come on Big boy

STOP this war now

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Apr 26 - 04:38 PM

Not a hope in hell Ray.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 02:21 AM

A war covering the Middle East and much further afield

If Iranian infrastructure demolished that will cause World Wide shortages

This is unacceptable ~ ALL leaders need tell Big T where to get off

Big Ts threat to charge for free passage through Hormuz is hot air and Iran is in charge

All American citizens should rise against this cranky US dictator

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 03:38 AM

Not a hope in hell Ray, if past experience is anything to go by.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 07:28 AM

"Donald Trump has said he believes God supports the U.S. as it wages war in Iran after the heroic rescue of U.S. airmen downed in enemy territory. The president and his top officials invoked God while discussing the operation during a White House press conference on Monday. “God doesn’t like what’s happening,” Trump told the media.

yes Big T is bonkers and simply wrong a deluded person who believes he has god on his side ~ how many tyrants believed that I wonder?

Ray

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 09:04 AM

Fifty explosions are reported on Kharg Island from US forces. WSJ.

Trump wants a whole civilization to die tonight. With no bridges or power plants, a democracy is difficult.

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 09:11 AM

In court, intention is key. If Trump intends to destroy a civilization to steal their oil, it is a slam-dunk war crime.

To what Island should Trump be banished?

Subject: RE: Drumpf - Epstein Friend/ US Prez 47/ War Criminal*
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 26 - 09:22 AM

Molokai, Kharg Island, Penguim Island, Coney Island side show?