Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: gillymor
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 09:18 AM

Just think of all that Lebensraum.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 12:19 PM

Greenland has fun cities like Disko and lots of water to bottle.
Fiskenaesset/Qeqertarsuatsiaat on the southwest coast has rubies of many different colors.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Dec 24 - 12:39 PM

He lost his attempt to set aside the judgement against E. Jean Carroll. We still haven't heard what Merchand plans to do about the sentencing. The trial isn't completely concluded until there is a sentence pronounced.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Jan 25 - 02:05 PM

The sentencing is January 10, before the inauguration.
And the judge said he is not inclined to jail time.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jan 25 - 04:35 PM

But he is going to give Trump and earful and it will prove the case is concluded and Trump is in fact a convicted felon. Will Trump fight it? Does the pope wear a beanie?

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 04 Jan 25 - 05:27 PM

Bring it on! :-D

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 04 Jan 25 - 05:39 PM

An interesting article about how easy, or not-so-easy it will be for Trump to achieve his calamitous future goals. The numbers in the House and the Senate are very close and not all Republicans are lining up with his policies and projects.

Republicans control the new Congress. But it could still obstruct Trump's plans

"A new US Congress has assembled, and the Republican Party now has a majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

"That's a gift to president-elect Donald Trump, who will need the support of Congress to fully implement his MAGA agenda.

"But the tight numbers present challenges for Trump in both chambers.

In the Senate, his plans face being stonewalled by the much-maligned 'filibuster'."
"
And in the House of Representatives, a few rebel Republicans have already defied Trump, albeit briefly, in their first vote."

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 25 - 03:30 PM

In the meanwhile, I am wondering if
Rudolph Giuliani expects Trump to pardon him and clear him of everything.
Giuliani was in the courtroom this week with his attorney.
He has been found in contempt of court,
as he is two months behind in surrendering his property.
When asked about what was still outstanding,
Giuliani held up a pocket watch and was ready to surrender that.
It would be amusing if it wasn't for real.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jan 25 - 04:33 PM

Judge Cannon has jumped into the fray again to prohibit Jack Smith from sending his report to Attorney General Garland (sending it to an appeals court and says it can't be released for 3 days after that court decides - she must be looking at her calendar and figuring Trump will squash it himself after that). I find myself wondering if Garland can't "trump" her move on this and ask for the report. Must look into it.

It's time for a well-placed leak about now.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 25 - 03:53 PM

From MSNBC about the upcoming sentencing hearing:

Judge Merchan’s critics had two main questions: Wouldn’t this punishment amount to a slap on the wrist, undermining the rule of law? And why couldn’t the judge wait and leave the sentencing hanging over Trump’s head until after he left office in four years, when his presidential immunity no longer applied?

It’s not the usual situation a judge finds himself in when sentencing a convicted defendant. But the Supreme Court gave Trump immunity no one else possesses: broad immunity from criminal prosecution for a president’s official acts. The criminal conduct in the Manhattan case occurred before Trump became president and was clearly personal, not presidential, conduct. Trump used the Supreme Court’s ruling last year to delay his sentencing date to a point so close to the inauguration that a sentence including incarceration was no longer a realistic possibility.

But something more important than the sentence is at stake here: the conviction. Judge Merchan underlined the importance of the jury’s decision in his order. “The significance of the fact that the verdict was handed down by a unanimous jury of 12 of Defendant’s peers, after trial, cannot possibly be overstated,” he wrote. “Indeed, the sanctity of a jury verdict and the deference that must be accorded to it, is a bedrock principle in our nation’s jurisprudence.”

A couple of paragraphs later it explains how to avoid Trump wiping the slate of these convictions:

The key to making sure Trump can’t wipe out the jury’s verdict is completing the appellate process. The conviction isn’t final until then. The clock for the appeal starts once sentencing is complete. Once Trump is sentenced, he has 30 days to file. If Judge Merchan had put off sentencing until 2029, Trump's conviction would not be on the path to becoming final.

The article is Trump asks Supreme Court to stay his sentencing. Judge Merchan was right. They have a paywall but when it pops up I open the article with the Just Read browser extension (in Chrome or Firefox) to read it.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jan 25 - 01:15 AM

Get your popcorn ready - the Supreme Court didn't let him dodge the sentencing. He'll have to be there Friday morning (Jan. 10, 2025) to get an earful from Judge Merchand.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 10 Jan 25 - 01:29 AM

I briefly glimpsed his sourpuss face at President Carter's funeral. I expect his sourpuss face will be the same in the Courtroom.