BS: And the next US President will be

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 06:27 PM

There IS an alternative, at least in the US:

...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 06:34 PM

The electorial deck is so heavilly stacked in the favor of the Repubs that I reckon that my fears of another Clinton in office ain't worth satying up at ngiht over...

Personally, I would love to see John Edwards win...

But realistically, the Dems still haven't broken the Southern Strategy so...

Fred Thompson... Who, BTW, will be a great improvement over the current lieing crooks...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 07:00 PM

Fred Thompson is just another old white man. Fuck him!

NO MORE OLD WHITE MEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 07:12 PM

Ah, but it is mostly old, white men who run.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 07:44 PM

We have two fine exceptions in the current lemming run, one a white woman and one a black, or at least tan, man. Either one would be an improvement over the current crop of thieves and liars, IMHO.

A

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 07:47 PM

Are you talking the media president or the real shadow president?

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 07:48 PM

Not even Bill Clinton had enough security clearence to be fully informed on UFO phenomenon.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 08:03 PM

Now, Beezer, don't be that way...

I mean, htis is a very corrupt political system we have there an' we ain't gonne get a good president... That is a given...

So all we can hope for is the leastest of the evils... Yeah, if I had my druthers, it would be Dennis Kucinich and Oboma... As a compromise, yeah okay Edwards and Richrdson/Oboma... But I fear that ain't what it's going to come down to... By Feburary it will most likely be decided between Clinton v. Guiali or Thompson...

Tell ya what... If I'm right I think I might just go vote for the County Clerk of the Court who is my next door neighbor, vote against the corrupt Sherrif and abstaine for the rest of the bull...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: GUEST,Ron Paul for President
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 09:10 PM

Ron Paul.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 09:14 PM

Yeah, I would consider Ron Paul... He opposed this stupid war since the very beginning...

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 10:56 PM

Seen on a vehicle in New Hampshire: "Of course it hurts! You're being screwed by an elephant!"

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 10:45 PM

I would predict Obama..I think he would be excellent domestically but oops there goes Boston..there goes Atlanta...blown to smithereens...I don't think he would be good in a standoff, but I do think he would be good in other international facets of the job. I didn't like what he said about genocide...too bad for them...but it is true we are allowing other genocides to go on...mg

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 11:00 PM

mg, I don't understand the Atlanta and Boston comment. What is the connection that I'm missing?

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 11:49 PM

I know nothing of Atlanta but being a native Bostonian I don't see it either. Any further explantion about this comment?
My preference is a Hillary/Obama ticket.
At this point the presidency belongs to the Democrates unless they manage to really blow it in the stretch.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: DougR
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 01:07 AM

Bill Clinton.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 01:23 AM

HA! The next President will be Dick Cheney. He's a real Dick. Bush is going to get things checked out. After Dick has had his faew hours in the sun, the President after that will be--yes, you guessed it, George W Bush. (Personally, I think it's got to do with replacing his batteries.)

Join us soon for another game of "Name that President"!

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 11:21 AM

Oh dear, and if George kicks the bucket during the 'proceedure' - due to a faulty heart and bad reactions...

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 11:57 AM

Tom Tancredo

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 04:18 PM

I say we try something non human.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 04:19 PM

Wadda ya got now?

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 05:47 PM

That is precisely why I suggested Chongo.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 09:22 PM

Yeah, I don't understand why Obama would blow up Boston or Atlanta.... Maybe I missed something???

Actually, I don't think Obama wants to blow up anything but maybe I'm wrong???

Maybe mg would like to elaborate???

Maybe not???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 10:37 PM

I think Chongo did blow up the clubhouse of Chicago's   Northside Gorillas one time...

But he was provoked.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 11:49 PM

Oh, but that's different.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: GUEST,MarkS
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:41 AM

Different member of the same ruling elite as ever. What does it matter who the exact person is.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:58 AM

Assuming the opposing party gets in, I'm not giving up on the notion that things can be different.

Maybe a president is in office too long. It is my belief that people who are drawn to politics, by and large, go in with the desire to change things, to make a difference. It is only, according to my thesis, that #1, they discover that it is far harder to change entrenched things and #2, that there's a LOT of money to be made if they are willing to go along.

As they say, new brooms sweep clean. We need a new president.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 09:21 AM

In his last few months of Governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura was going around trying to make the case that the presidency should be changed to one six year term. I think he was right. The way it is now, the president spends most of his first year campaigning for a second term.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 10:33 AM

I hope folks will take a serious look at , Governor of New Mexico. If you go to his site, be sure to watch the "Stand Up" video.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 11:07 AM

Bill Richarson is a very qualified man, kat... Problem is that the American people don't have a good track record on electing folks who are not only smart but come into the job with big resume's...

Yeah, in a perfect world, we would be electing people who are qualified... Bill Richarson, of all the folks out there, is the ***most*** qualified to lead our country...

That's MO...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: heric
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 11:49 AM

I had hopes for Richardson, but he is not competent to run the wrold's largest economy. Google Bill Richardson Peregrine, or check this . I'm sorry to say he was brought down by the most foul man in California "politics."

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: pdq
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:25 PM

heric,

You say: I'm sorry to say he was brought down by the most foul man in California "politics."

Can you be more specific. There are so many slimeballs in California politics to choose from.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: heric
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:37 PM

Sorry John Moores of Peregrine.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: heric
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:42 PM

Not a politican but a player. Power buyer / broker.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:49 PM

I think you're right, Ebbie, that many people go into politics with high ideals. They hope to change things for the better, to make a difference. Then the $ySStem gets hold of them and it grinds them down and beats them into submission. It forces them to compromise themselves. The problem is the $ySStem itself, not the individuals who go into politics.

The $ySStem is a living thing (like all organizations). It was made artificially by people in the first place, but it's alive...like a computerized robot that never turns off. It operates to preserve and enlarge itself. It uses the various people who enter it the way a machine uses a pulley or a gear, and replaces them when they are worn out. The $ySStem lives longer than any of its human servants.

The problem is that the $ySStem has no heart, no soul, no real intelligence of its own...it simply has an appetite, and it has the will to perpetuate itself by whatever means possible. It's a mindless animal, in other words, and a dangerous one.

This is probably true of all large humanly-created institutions (governments, corporations, professional associations, churches, armed forces), and it is the bane of those idealists who attempt to work within them.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: heric
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 01:01 PM

But then, too, a man has got to know his limits. George Jr. should have declined, no matter how well the table was set for him. He is responsible for that.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 01:05 PM

I am ready to throw my fedora in the ring. Just say the word. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 03:24 PM

The election (if it should happen) of either Clinton or Obama (in either order) would be beneficial long-term, in that it would open up a vast reservoir of potential candidates for the future, either women or "blacks". Then the barrier to overcome would be the acceptability of a Hispanic candidate.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 11:46 AM

I saw a Cheney-Voldemort 08 bumper sticker...

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 11:30 PM

I heard someone say in all seriousness that the next president will be Fred Thompson....

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 12:30 AM

Hmmmm Truebrit, read up top. There are several of us saying it.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 12:46 AM

Yes -- I did read it earlier. But this was a face to face conversation recently which seemed to bring it into better perspective.......well,there was one actor, maybe another wouldn'tbe so bad.........couldn't be worse than the status quo.....

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 07:50 AM

"...well,there was one actor, maybe another wouldn'tbe so bad..."


             As terrible as the first one was, why would we want another?

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 04:37 PM

I agree with Riginslinger. Reagan opened a door to nasty things.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 05:22 PM

"couldn't be worse than the status quo....."

Well, there must be millions of Americans of which that could be said.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Mike Miller
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 11:39 PM

I really think that the next president will be Fred Thompson. My reasons are few but time tested.

He is an old time conservative who will own the "base" and yet, like another proud Right Winger, his image and folksy speaking skills will charm America, just like Ron did.

His image, to Americans, is linked to his role on Law and Order. There, he is the voice of conservative, practical reason. He is on the side of the good guys. He is the boss of the good guys.

The Democrats could screw up a wet dream.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 12:05 AM

"...like another proud Right Winger,"

            There could be no proud Right Wingers. They're all
crooked.

                "He is on the side of the good guys."

            Whoops! I thought you said he was a Right Winger.

      
            "The Democrats could screw up a wet dream..."

          The Republicans are a wet dream.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Mike Miller
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:17 AM

I was referring to Fred Thompson's role on television as "on the side of the good guys". This gives him a positive image and, in politics, everything is perception.
I didn't say he was my choice. He is my prediction. My choice is for the 76ers to win the NBA finals. My prediction is somewhat different.
That the Democrats could "screw up a wet dream" has been shown over and over again. Since 1952, their election record is atrocious. These clowns were to busy fighting among themselves to defeat the least popular president of modern history, in the middle of an unpopular, unwinnable war during hard times. You can claim the election was rigged, all you like, but it was just the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot, again.
The American populace is not well represented in this forum. Americans, in general, are more conservative than Mudcatters. That's how Bushes and Nixons and Reagans get elected. The chance of a real progressive being nominated, by either party, is teeny.
So, get ready to call whoever wins "the worst president in history", which you will, although the incumbant has raised the bar to new depths.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:01 AM

I think the 2004 election was rigged in a different way than the corporate media reports it. Going into Iowa Howard Dean was a shoo-in for the nomination. Somehow Kerry won. I don't think this all has to do with Democrats. The international corporate powers wanted to make sure that if their Bush puppet didn't win, they'd have a Democrat puppet to take his place, so they selected the weakest candidate in the field and financed him.

                     I really think they did more than that.

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Mike Miller
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:57 AM

Seems like old times. I am so glad to read Riginslinger's posts. Folk hasn't been blessed by such imaginative conspiracy rants since Dave VanRonk got solvent. The "international corporate powers" are gettin' together again, are they. I've heard they are being financed by the Elders of Zion but I don't want to start any rumors. It is true that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are bridge partners. I wonder what Mr. Riginslinger will make of that.

                Mike

Subject: RE: BS: And the next US President will be
From: Riginslinger
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 11:48 AM

I think it was Warren Buffet and the lady who used to own the Washington Post but died who were bridge partners. I think any sane person would be afraid to play bridge with Bill Gates.

                   In addition to that, I was unaware that Dave VanRonk had gotten solvent--are we talking paint solvent here (acetone maybe)?

                   And yes, the dead Washington Post lady would fit right in witht the Elders of Zion. Maybe that's where we should begin our search.