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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: open mike Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:32 PM ˙bɹo˙ʇxǝʇdıןɟ˙ʍʍʍ ʇɐ ǝpɐɯ sɐʍ sıɥʇ ˙sʇsod ɹnoʎ uı ǝʇsɐd oʇ sʞuıן ǝʞɐɯ ʎןısɐǝ uɐɔ noʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ɹǝıɟıʞɔıןq ɐ ǝʌɐɥ ǝʍ ʇɐɥʇ sı buıɥʇ ןnɟɹǝpuoʍ ǝɥʇ http://www.fliptext.org >ɐ/ all the work of making a Blue clicky (blickie) has been done for us.. at the "make-a-link" blickie below -- lucky us!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Joe_F Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:39 PM When there's bullshit on one side & horseshit on the other, sit on the fence. As I recently said on another thread, I find it easier to insert the HTML codes by hand than to use the make-a-link link. However, I always use the preview option when I do that, in case I make a mistake. It is nice to know that a charitable human will convert a URL to a link if I neglect to do so. However, automating that process might be possible on this site, as it has been shown to be on some others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Fergie Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:40 PM This is why I like Mudcat just as it is. Max, through selfless endeavour and dedication has done a fantastic job over many years. It's straight forward and simple. I've learned so much from the people that hang out here. Hey it's not perfect but is the best free resource for traditional songs and singing and knowledge of the subject on the net. If you think you can do something to improve this site, PM Max or one of the moderators or elves, and pass them your positive criticisms and maybe suggest some way you might be willing and able to assist them to improve this fantastic site. Otherwise get positive, get a life or get out of here. Fergus PS thanks to Max and all involve. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Rapparee Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:53 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: Janie Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:54 PM I LOVE the clickifier function. I have more trouble remembering html code than I have remembering song lyrics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: olddude Date: 26 Jul 10 - 09:20 PM Folks Michael is a very good person. Like many of us sometime technology gets frustrating ... Heck I want to wack my computer about 7 times a day. Poor choice of wording for the thread but it wasn't meant to be harsh just frustration setting in ... we all do it |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? From: jacqui.c Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:13 PM Making clickies really isn't difficult. I've even managed to talk Kendall through doing it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:24 PM
I find it's best to open a new browser window [CTRL-N] and navigate your way to the site you want to link to. Highlight and copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) of the site, and then go back to your Mudcat message and paste [CTRL-V] the URL into your link. Be sure to include the http:// in that URL. The quotation marks are standard procedure, but most links work just fine without quotation marks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: number 6 Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:42 PM Geeeezuz H. Joe !! anyway ... I've been in the IT business for 36 years ... been a programmer, systems analyst, applications designer, systems architect and yadda yadda yadda. Frankly I cannot give a rat's ass about HTML codes, font triggers or whatever. All through my so called IT career I have always been extremely annoyed by smart ass users who boast of their computer skills. These people constantly got into areas they shouldn't have and mucked up so many things they made many a work day a challenge to clean up their mess. In this thread I now see many of these smart ass users who are now retired and spending way too much time cluttering up a well intentioned thread here on the Mudcat with their smart ass antics. Hmmmmmpf biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jul 10 - 12:18 AM Thank you for kind words, Dan. Frustration, yes; & perhaps ill-chosen vocabulary ~~ tho I have always understood that the BS prefix we put to non-musical posts simply stands for that fairly moderate expletive I employed to which a certain amount of exception has been taken ~~ is not that so? ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Jul 10 - 04:09 AM Someone once said BS = Breeze Shooting, but that's not a term we use this side of the pond. sandra (who often posts in the BS area) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jul 10 - 04:51 AM Which Joe or clone, btw, has added 'HTML' to my original title? As I have said before, it is not the HTML processes for itals, bold, &c, with which I have the problems, tho they are a bit round the worldish [which is, as several have pointed out to me, a factor of their admirable pioneering antiquity]; but, despite endeavours & encouragements from many good friends on this thread, I do continue to find the blue-clicky requirements opaque in the extreme. ~Michael~
If you have trouble understanding the logic of making clickable links, by may find the "blickifier" function helpful - you'll find it near the message-posting box in every thread. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: TheSnail Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:16 AM olddude The blue clicky's can get to be a hassle sometimes.... Hi olddude. Didn't realise you were a greengrocer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 27 Jul 10 - 08:16 AM Actually many tricks such as Rapaire's can be done in Firefox with the LeetKey addon. .n0dd4 y3{|733L 3h7 h71w x0f3r1F n1 3n0d 38 n4( 5'3r14p4R 54 h(u5 5k(1r7 yn4m y||4u7(4 and others... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 27 Jul 10 - 09:59 AM A voice of one that crieth in the wilderness... Explain to people that when they post the href thing, that is all they will see on their own computer. They won't see the blue clicky themselves, but it will be working for others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: TheSnail Date: 27 Jul 10 - 10:12 AM GUEST,leeneia They won't see the blue clicky themselves, but it will be working for others Check the Preview box and then Submit Message. It won't send the message but will show you what it will look like. If it's OK,Submit Message again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the bullshit? (HTML) From: olddude Date: 27 Jul 10 - 12:21 PM Snail LOL ... that was good .. yup can't type ... can't see ... time for new glasses ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Jul 10 - 01:12 PM I'm going to post my color-coded link demo again, and give a bit of explanation. Get a cup of coffee and focus yourself on this brief message, and you'll find you'll master links in no time. HTML isn't hard, if you just get the hang of the logic of HTML. The Mudcat HTML guide will give a more comprehensive explanation, but here are some basics. An HTML command is always enclosed in <angle brackets>. The command is turned off by repeating it, with a slash in front of it, again enclosed in </angle brackets>. Most HTML commands are reasonably intuitive:
u for underline i for italics h1, h2, h3, etc. for Headlines blockquote for indented text hr for horizontal rule (line) But links start with <a...> (plus modifiers, usually href=) and end with </a> - which, to my mind, isn't particularly intuitive. Still, it follows the same pattern of starting with a command <a...> (plus modifiers) and ending with </a>. In the example below, you'll see that
the target URL is in red and the link text (which can be anything, even a picture) is in blue
Note that the full Web address - including http://, is required for links outside Mudcat. I find it's best to copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) from the address bar of my browser, and then paste [CTRL-V] it into the link I'm making. If you're posting links at Mudcat, the quotation marks are optional. I prefer not to use them, because they complicate the task of making links. Simple is better, I think. Fewer misteaks. It may be easier and quicker to open a new browser window [CTRL-N] and navigate your way to the site you want to link to. Highlight and copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) of the site, and then go back to your Mudcat message and paste [CTRL-V] the URL into your link. Be sure to include the http:// in that URL. The quotation marks are standard procedure, but most links work just fine without quotation marks. I don't find e-mail links particularly helpful nowadays, since so many people use Web-based e-mail that doesn't work with the links.
-Joe Offer- So, in short, here's all you need to make a link: See? It's easy!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Amos Date: 27 Jul 10 - 02:04 PM The "A" stands for anchor, because the location on the page where you place the "a" is where the link is anchored, from the viewpoint of the reader. The "href" stands for "hypertext reference". So "a href" denotes anchoring a hypertext reference, or a link to another location. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: PoppaGator Date: 27 Jul 10 - 05:37 PM Back when I was new to Mudcat, I had trouble, briefly, getting the "blue clicky" thing to work. My links would lead to some other place within the Mudcat site, not to my intended destination. I eventually learned what the problem was: I was not including the entire web address to which I intended to link. If you copy an entire URL, including the "http://" part, the "Make a link ("blue clicky")" shortcut works like a charm, every time. But the way the "blickifier" formula works, your link won't get outside of Mudcat if you omit the opening code... And, as long as all you want to do with HTML is to post working links and maybe make italics and boldface, etc., you do NOT have to learn Joe's color-coded link instructions. Just click the blue-clicky link, copy-and-paste your destination URL in the appropriate place, and paste it into your message. To see the link exactly as it will appear in the message, and to test it is you wish, preview your message before posting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Bill D Date: 27 Jul 10 - 05:44 PM I still say that it makes it all even easier if you don't put the quotation marks in the address HTML. In 15 years, I never have, and if you miss one..or hit a ' instead, it messes things up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Bill D Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:08 PM The first few months I tried to post using clickies, I saved a copy of the code, like Joe Offer posted above, in big, colorful type, so I could just substitute MY content...then one day, it dawned on me that I saw the pattern! Then, by frequenting a group where helper programs were discussed, I got myself several of those to do the stuff that went beyond the plain 'a href=' stuff. Now I do links easily, but don't even try to 'learn' the fancy stuff... I just let a pre-written program do it for me. (and olddude said it perfectly...Mudcat was written before those automated forums existed. Be glad, MtheGM, that you weren't trying this when we still had to do manual line breaks! (note the checked box below) The first clones were constantly having to manually put in lyrics line breaks.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:51 PM I fully agree with the change to the title of this thread. Not only this thread, but many threads would benefit from a more clear and specific thread title. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: ragdall Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:23 PM I think a more accurate title for Michael's difficulty with Mudcat would be, "BS: Mudcat: automatic hyperlinks for posted URLs needed". ... As I have said before, it is not the HTML processes for itals, bold, &c, with which I have the problems, tho they are a bit round the worldish [which is, as several have pointed out to me, a factor of their admirable pioneering antiquity]; but, despite endeavours & encouragements from many good friends on this thread, I do continue to find the blue-clicky requirements opaque in the extreme. Michael, 1. Are you able to find your way back and forth between two windows or tabs? Do you know how to copy and paste? If not, one of us would be thrilled to walk you through those processes. If you are able to perform both of those tasks, please read on: 2. If you click the link under the new message field, Make a link ("blue clicky"), a new window will open. 3. Paste or type the URL you wish to share into both the Link URL: and the Link text (optional*): fields. 4. Click the Create Link button. 5. Copy the entire line(s) under "Cut and paste this into your post:" 6. Return to the window that contains the field in which you were typing a message and paste what you just copied there. 7. Click in the square beside Preview, then click Submit Message. Does the result look okay? If so, click Submit Message again. Try it, it works. rags |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 27 Jul 10 - 10:29 PM On my computer I have to RIGHT CLICK on 'make a link.' A left click does nothing. I used my computer for years before I even asked myself what the right button was for. I bet many people who say they can't make clickies are failing to right click. And whether I test the link or not, it is still true that the first time I copy the href thing, the link is not visible to me, only to others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: katlaughing Date: 27 Jul 10 - 10:49 PM Joe, were the misteaks tasty?**BG** Shoot, it's been so long since we had to manually put in the line breaks, I'd forgotten all about them! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:37 PM Rags ~~ thank you. But my invariable problem is that when I reach your sequence #5, the whole of the window will have vanished from my desktop when I try to get back to it actually to insert the link which I think I have made. THAT is where the process always comes to a fullstop for me; so all this helpful advice about 'preview' & 'others will see it even tho I won't' & so forth is wasted, becoz the bloody copy is no longer there for me to work on by this stage. It will have gone · vanished · away into the ewigkeit!!! But thank you all very much just the same. Joe ~ many thanks for the PMs; resaon I have not responded as fully as perhaps I should is that I find them a bit of a distraction from this central problem I have rubricated here, which is really what I am seeking the solution to & which is what led to my originating this thread in the first place. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:50 PM Well, Michael- I was kinda hoping you'd read my carefully-prepared guide and learn to make a link, but there's really no need. If you simply post the URL, the interested people will follow it. Besides, we moderators change most URLs we see to clickable links. I don't think the program we use, ColdFusion, has the ability to make automatic links in forum messages. But for those of us who have learned, making our own links is very satisfying. If you haven't learned, then the "Blue Clicky" maker at the bottom of each thread, may be a handy tool for you. For me, it's quicker to make my own. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jul 10 - 12:02 AM Thanks, Joe. Sorry couldn't be more helpful about the other thing. Will come back to it later & try again ~~ it's 0430 hours here at the moment & I am only just up. I try to use the 'blue clicky' maker as you suggest ~~ that is where the above-mentioned problem, 2 posts back, always originates. Shall in future take your advice of just pasting in the URL for others to copy & paste, or for you or a clone to turn into a clicky on my behalf. But I still feel frustrated at not being able to perform this op which others find so simple without the copy in its entirety vanishing, as I describe in my last post! Why-o-why does this happen ~~ only to me, it appears! ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Jul 10 - 12:02 AM Here's a simple link you can copy-paste. Just replace the "xxx" with the address you want: <a href=xxx>click here</a> |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jul 10 - 12:06 AM Many thanks, Joe. I have saved that to copy & paste & shall certainly give it a try when occasion arises. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: ragdall Date: 28 Jul 10 - 03:17 PM Michael, Which browser are you using? (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, Safari... etc.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 28 Jul 10 - 05:15 PM Firefox, Rags. Ought to work, but copy never survives the clicky-links. Why? ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: ragdall Date: 28 Jul 10 - 05:45 PM Michael, I use Firefox too and I've had trouble with windows "vanishing" too, but they don't really disappear, but they just go behind another window. I've taken a screen shot of the operation on Firefox: http://www.flickr.com/photos/diffuse/4839024950/ Do you have a task bar at the bottom of your screen like the one in that image? (It begins with "Start"). In my example, you can also see two buttons, "BS: Mudcat~~Why..." and "Link Maker - Mozilla Fi". Those mean that there are two windows open. When I can see one of those windows on my monitor, I can click the button for the other and that window will come to the front. rags |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 10 - 06:25 PM The REAL Mudcat headquarters Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 28 Jul 10 - 09:07 PM "I use Firefox too and I've had trouble with windows "vanishing" too, but they don't really disappear, but they just go behind another window." With Firefox, you can have a 'Tab Bar' up the top (or bottom) that shows you all the many windows you can have open at once - I won't say WHERE you go to turn that on or off, as I have so many other plug ins that may be modifying that :-) but you CAN also have it set up so that each new url opens in a new window - Ragdalls pic shows that. Personally I find the multi tabs easier. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 29 Jul 10 - 12:52 AM Thank you all for help ~~ shall keep this all this useful info on file for future ref. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: My guru always said Date: 29 Jul 10 - 03:39 AM At the risk of seeming somewhat niaive (how on earth is that spelt?), Michael has mentioned things disappearing while working via his 'desktop' several times. I always do links etc while in my 'browser'. Am I missing something? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: ragdall Date: 29 Jul 10 - 03:49 AM My guru always said, semantics? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 29 Jul 10 - 02:35 PM ...guru... ~~ I work ON my desktop, WITHIN my browser. I have never used the preposition 'via', with which you saddle me, in relation to either. FYO ~~ naïve Regards ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Amos Date: 29 Jul 10 - 03:09 PM my invariable problem is that when I reach your sequence #5, the whole of the window will have vanished from my desktop Try using "New Tab" instead of "New Window" then you can just jump between tabs to go back and forth. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: catspaw49 Date: 29 Jul 10 - 09:09 PM Like Bill, I remember the days of line breaks and having to learn HTML just to post much around here. Most of us learned all that through Mudcat. And if you notice the link maker even refers to a link as a "Blue Clicky".......We were all so dumb we had no idea what it was called and Rick Fielding coined the phrase "Blue Clicky Thing" which ended up as a song by Amos as I recall. BUT MtheGM YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS: Michael, I know you find it a bit difficult to use parts of the 'Cat and that is normal. You see, many of us who have been around for a long time have access to features that you don't, like the automatic link maker. There is also a built in spell check with selective override and a far more advanced posting set-up with complete formatting functions. You don't have access to these and there is a reason for that which you need to know. We really don't like you Michael. You're a Brit and a pain in the ass Brit to boot. You're intelligent which is threatening to us and we suspect you have rampant dyspepsia because you lost your balls in a Rugby scrum. Correct me if I'm wrong but one of your team thought it was a scrotum instead of a scrum and.......well, I can't go into the details here.....far too disgusting and sad. We also assume you like cricket which of course makes you suspect in many countries just on the face of it. Even though you're pretty much a complete jackwad and all, I wanted to be honest with you here as outside of these many character flaws you're not a bad sort of jackass at all. Regards, Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: Joe Offer Date: 30 Jul 10 - 06:53 PM Michael, Spaw's just trying to tell you how much he likes you. He's a little clumsy and shy about it, but that's what he means.... -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Jul 10 - 11:26 PM Thanks, kat, for remembering that Blue Clicky Thing song I wrote when I first fell in love with the Mudcat. (And that hasn't changed.) And I forgive spaw for ascribing it to Amos - except that actually I take that as a compliment to me. The only bits of HTML I have picked up come from the way things get done here, and I like the way it's helped me to do that. I've never seen another net forum that comes within distant spying range of the Cat. I think a big part of that is the deceptively neat and minimalist approach. Changes to that kind of thing need to be done carefully and cautiously, and that's how Max has always done it. One bit of essential advice I don't think has been mentioned - when you write a post and preview it to check how it looks, always be sure to click on the links to make sure. It's embarrassing sometimes when you miss that out, and the link goes nowhere, or to some strange other place that wasn't intended. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 31 Jul 10 - 12:06 AM Joe: Yes, thank you; one thing I am learning about the Cat as a relative newbie is what makes Spaw tick! Spaw: I have never played rugby [can't even understand the rules tho they are not quite as opaque as those of what u~guize are pleased to call 'football' over there, teeheehee] ~~ soccer always my winter game; I was my school's #1 choice goalkeeper 60 years ago. Nor did I greatly care for cricket ~~ tennis ever my summer game in youth thru to late middle-age. So your guesses & animadversions way offbeam. Still'n'all ~~ luv u 2! xxx ~Michael·the·not·so·bad·pain·in·the·arse[sic]·brit·jackass~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 31 Jul 10 - 04:30 PM ... and I had better make clear that by 'school' I mean 'school': not university ~~ I can never understand why you-lot over there will call your universities 'schools'; & what the hell do you call your schools, where children/adolescents are educated up to 16/18? ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Jul 10 - 06:20 PM I was so happy to have my fears assuaged that I pissed myself in joy......or it may be this aging thing has stepped it up a notch................... We use "school" for all levels but in conversation and to clarify, the breakdown goes like this: The law requires 12 years (grade levels) of education generally preceded by a year of Kindergarten. The lower grades are sometimes referred to as "Primary" and the upper grades as "Secondary." If your kids are in grades 1-6 they are in "Elementary School." Grades 9-12 are called "High School and the years in between are either "Junior High" or "Middle School." Up to this point, unless you choose a private school, education is free. "Post Secondary" education has tuition and what you generally call "University," we call "College." The word University is almost always preceded by "the" and College is not. In other words, we use college in much the same way you use university. In conversation you might ask where someone went to college but never where they went to university. You might get an answer that they went to the University of Michigan or The Ohio State University but if they brought up the subject they would say, "I went to college at Ohio State." There are many post secondary schools that also teach 4 year programs in multiple fields but they are known as colleges and are often smaller than universities. Oberlin College where Caroline Paton went to school is one of the finest post secondary schools in the country whereas the University of Michigan is attended by dimwitted assholes having two digit IQ scores like Gerald Ford, the President that pardoned Richard Nixon. I know this probably is more than you wanted to know but I've spent 12 years here at Mudcat trying to figure out your system and thought this might save you some time. I want you to know that about 250 years back we kicked the shit out of y'all so we could fuck up the language and the culture in any way we damn well pleased and as you can see we've done a real job of it. Pride in accomplishment is the American motto and whenever we can fuck something up beyond all recognition we try to take it even one step more! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 01 Aug 10 - 12:04 AM I once remarked to an American guest in my Cambridge college, Christ's College [alma mater of Milton, Darwin...], that I had been 'at school' with a quite distinguished actor on our tv. "What, here at Christ's?" she enquired. No, of course not; that was my university, or college ~~ but never, as in her American-thinking mind, my "school". I was referring to Hendon County Grammar School, which I attended 11-18, 1943-50. That is the sort of usage I was asking about. Americans, whatever you say, Spaw, do use 'school', at least colloquially, to mean college or university ~~ as in, e.g., "Where did you go to school?" "Cornell." This might, on Shakespearean evidence, once have existed here as an obsolete usage ~ "Go not to school at Wittenberg," enjoins Hamlet's mother, meaning he should not go back to his university for the new term; but it is entirely obsolete now. ~Michael~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Aug 10 - 07:37 AM Then there's the London School of Economics. A University will typically contain a number of constituent colleges, some of which might be called colleges, others might be called schools, or there are various other titles, such as "Hall". Variety in language is the spice of life, inside countries as well as between them. Isn't this thread drifting pleasantly? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat ~~ why all the HTML required for links? From: MGM·Lion Date: 01 Aug 10 - 01:31 PM ... and at Oxford {where that? ed} they use the term "Schools" for what we at Cambridge call "Faculties": as in School of Classics, School of English, &c. But, I mean, what would you expect? ~Michael~ |
