Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:00 PM

Zerostat !!!???

Would a 35 year old zerostat gun still function properly after being forgotten away in a drawer somewhere since the 1980s ???

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Jul 14 - 04:18 PM

Ah, I have a Teac 3340 reel to reel 4 channel recorder by my left foot which may also be worth selling for spares!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 07:43 AM

JHW, you chose well. The B139 Kef bass driver is still excellent.

Bonzo, it seems that for once you did something right.    The Teac may be worth resurrecting

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jul 14 - 07:49 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEAC-3340S-QUAD-Reel-To-Reel-Simul-Sync-/121382891214?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Multi_Track_Recorders&hash=item1c42fbeece

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 May 18 - 12:59 PM

Bringing this back up to the top. My 20-year-old system in my office seems to be failing, and I visit a lot of thrift stores. I need to look for some of the good old devices for replacements.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 May 18 - 01:48 PM

Any advice on CD players?

I have a lot of very old CDs with minor scratches, and often play CDRs written by computer. I haven't found a player that can cope well with both. If it can play the CDRs it will skip on the scratches. And I've been through a lot of second-hand CD players.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 23 May 18 - 05:40 PM

Still have our multi-functional Sony system which we bought in the late 1970s: radio, turntable, double cassette including record cassette-cassette all still working. 5 CD Changer isn't working (laser gone?)and the radio no longer does pre-sets, but can still be tuned! (Other devices in the house can play the CDs).
Various add-ons, thanks to my son: mini-desk deck, so can still play all the recordings I made back along, + better speakers.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 May 18 - 07:23 PM

I bought the four-piece AIWA system in 1997 to record LPs to cassettes before the LPs left my possession (estate stuff). The speakers are still fine, as is the turntable, but the workings of the main piece are a bit bonkers. It isn't letting me tune or save as presets right now, I don't know about the CD player or the dual cassette portion. I can keep all but the main piece and pick up a replacement or several parts to use there.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 24 May 18 - 04:57 AM

Talking of good quality turntables, this appeared on Dime overnight:

Emmylou Harris & The Hot Band
Gilley’s, Pasadena, TX
Early 1984 (or maybe late 1983 - exact date unknown)

Live From Gilley's syndicated radio show #84-04
Aired weekend of 1/21-22/84

Lineage: Original pre-FM vinyl > Audacity > Wav > Flac (L8, align on SBs)

01. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Intro - Jim Duncan
02. Bad Moon Rising
03. (Lost His Love) On Our Last Date
04. Restless
05. Commercial - Rolaids (Roger Staubach and Tommy Lasorda)
06. Commercial - Dentyne Sugarless Gum
07. Commercial - Spam
08. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Break - Jim Duncan
09. Pancho And Lefty
10. Born To Run
11. Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down
12. Leaving Louisiana In The Broad Daylight
13. Commercial - Rolaids (Roger Staubach and Tommy Lasorda)
14. Commercial - Dentyne Sugarless Gum
15. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Break - Jim Duncan
16. Tennessee Rose
17. If I Needed You
18. Commercial - Trident Sugarless Gum
19. Commercial - Rolaids (Roger Staubach and Tommy Lasorda)
20. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Break - Jim Duncan
21. How High The Moon
22. Band Introductions
23. The Boxer
24. Commercial - Trident
25. Commercial - Spam
26. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Break - Jim Duncan
27. Amarillo
28. Luxury Liner
29. Live From Gilley's LG 84-04 Outro - Jim Duncan

Total time 54:11

Emmylou Harris - vocals, acoustic guitar
Wayne Goodwin - mandolin, fiddle
Don Johnson - piano, vocals
Barry Tashian - rhythm guitar, vocals
Frank Reckard - mandolin, acoustic & electric guitars, vocals
Steve Fishell - dobro, pedal steel
Michael Bowden - bass
Don Heffington - drums

http://www.emmylouharris.com/

Dave's notes:
This version has some surface noise issues on several tracks. Specifically, Tennessee Rose, If I Needed You, How High The Moon, and The Boxer have audible surface noise. It's not bad, but it's not perfect, and usually my digitizations are better than this one. In this case, the vinyl had more noise than I could remove without spending a year cleaning it up. Eventually I'll find a better copy...so until then, this is the best that we've got of this show. It's not bad...it's just not PERFECT.

Live From Gilley’s was a single LP syndicated radio show featuring country and country-rock acts that ran from 1981 until 1989 featuring live performances recorded at Gilley’s Club in Pasadena, Texas. In 1986, performances recorded at venues other than Gilley’s were occasionally included, and as it is ridiculous to say "Live From Gilley’s presents the Judds recorded live in Holland!," announcer Jim Duncan would call out the show as "Westwood One Presents" instead of "Live From Gilley’s."

At the same time, they continued to use the "Live At Gilley’s" record labels on these shows, but began identifying the non-Gilley’s recordings on the cue sheet as "Westwood One Presents." In 1989, the disc labels were switched to "Westwood One Presents" until the end of the "Westwood One Presents" show in 1990.

Emmylou Harris had broadcasts on "Live From Gilley's" in 1983 as show #83-14, on this show #84-04, and on "Best of Gilley's" compilation shows #83-44, 85-35, and 86-44.

300 dpi scans of the cue sheet and a disc label are included.

Many thanks to Dave for all his efforts and providing this file set through his Voodoo Wagon blog.

Support the artists! Buy their official releases, go to their concerts!
Trade freely! Do not buy or sell! Keep it lossless!

Uploaded to DIME by propylaen in May 2018.

Now these Pre-FM discs, if in good condition, can provide superb audio sound before sometimes overwhelming FM broadcast compression is applied - per BBC Radio 2, always worth a listen. I didn't have time to hear any of this Emmylou set this morning unfortunately, but it sits on my hard drive for this evening!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 02:53 PM

Bringing this back up to the top to accompany other tech threads.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: JHW
Date: 19 Sep 19 - 05:26 AM

A problem I've had with venerable kit is it doesn't get used enough so goes wrong sat doing nothing. My Aiwa cassette deck door wouldn't open. My Sony TC377 tapedeck several times has needed repair. On last return I'd forgotten what I wanted to play. (reel to reel) As post above I copied much to cassette but now cars won't play them indeed loan car out there today won't even play CDs.
Thread headline says Turntables. Back in the 70s I reckoned if I gave up smoking for a year I could assemble a decent hifi set up. After a month I came home with a Connoiseur turntable, just the bit that goes round and motor. But I'd cracked the smoking and never smoked again. Still use that turntable. Transcriptors arm and now Nagoaka MC cartridge. Amp, Tuner have been replaced a few times. Burglars took some but left that turntable.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Nov 19 - 11:52 AM

I found a JVC stereo shelf system that had a CD player that worked when I first tested it (brought home from the thrift store - I have 2 weeks to return it if it doesn't work) but now it hangs and I hear a hum. It may have a belt that worked at first, but then failed. It's a 1994 unit and I'm waiting to marry it to a the correct remote found on eBay. The whole thing will have cost me $17, and is easily sold on eBay, even as "parts or repair" for substantially more.

I found a pair of Polk Audio speakers a while back that live in the other room where I can test equipment, and those are what I used to test this. Testing the sound now with the radio, it is amazing. But it does needs work. This was sold in the day when the owner's manual included all of the schematics, the parts list, and even an exploded view of the insides of the device. I can manage simple repairs, so since this cost me $6.99 I think it's worth taking the time to fiddle with the CD player. I haven't yet tested the dual cassette players. It has an aux port in back so I can run the photograph through it.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Nov 19 - 01:12 PM

There are youtube videos to identify types of hum,
and their cause..

I watched one recently about amplifyer hum associated with failed old capacitors...

[sorry cant remember title..]

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Nov 19 - 07:05 PM

Who knew? I'll have to take a look.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 09 Sep 24 - 12:10 PM

Interesting programme about the turntable.
This repeat is only available on BBC Sounds for about four weeks.

Turntable Tales - BBC Radio 4 - 2016
Turntablists and Turntable Survival
,,,Colleen also tracks the recent rise in turntable sales and visits a surviving and now thriving niche producer, Nottingham Analogue, to see how they go about creating the perfect deck.

It was the DJ's who, back in the nineties helped sustain the production of vinyl. Now it's the audiophiles who lead the charge. Turntable sales have turned a corner and the Turntable Tale is very far from over.

In searching for the magic of what the turntable is, can be and has been, Colleen hears again from the Antiques Roadshow's Paul Atterbury about a memorable moment during his time on the show involving an old, wind-up gramophone.


www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07378ct

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Sep 24 - 01:01 PM

Good timing, I've recently turned my attention to some of the electronics here (picked up to sell on eBay, or keep myself if they're in really good shape.)

I recently researched speakers in order to set up some surround sound for the television and looked up the large walnut speakers that came from my Dad's house in the 1990s. Now vintage, they are an ESS HD Series and those used speakers go for megabuck prices like our recently-departed Richard Bridge mentioned about a used amplifier at the top of the thread. Some of these things really hold their value.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good Results w/ Old Equipment - Turntables
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 11 Sep 24 - 11:26 AM

Oooohhh .... The OP tickles an old fetish of mine summat cruel. Methinks the rot set in around 1070, just as I was becoming interested in HiFi, when the old loudspeaker designers who knew what they were doing started leaving the trade. Manufacturers had realised that amplifiers, and signal sources (receivers, turntables etc), were getting cheaper to make, but that the manufacturing costs of high-quality loudspeakers were only going to increase, as it was still a manual job. After that, design and manufacturing of mid-cost speakers became a branch of furniture making.

Once you let the money men into the board room, everything (as noted in the OP) becomes a numbers game, and a matter of what the customer can be persuaded to not notice is missing. Our TV doesn't even reproduce bass notes properly, much to my distress when listening to Fairport or Jethro Tull, and our stereo doesn't do CDs.

I'll leave it there, as I really can witter on about this by the quarter-hour.