BS: Things I know about consciousness

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Two_bears
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:30 PM

1 It's intermittent; we all sleep and have periods of non-consciousness.

It IS true that during sleep the conscious mind shuts down; but the sub conscious mind is aware; so it is not periods of non consciousness.

ANL - 2B

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Two_bears
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:47 PM

3. There is the super-conscious consciousness, that is triggered by desire, decision, repetition of thought in a spirit of expectancy. The regular mind tells this super mind what EXACTLY it wants, and the infinite sends the RESULTS (spectacle detailed result more detailed and profound that what the person could have came up with on his own)back to the human being in the form of an impulse. These impulse through repition become plans and working ideas. (i.e. theories, inventions, religious theology etc.)

Dewey: The Hawai'ians called this superconscious mind the 'Aumakua (owmakooa), they called the conscious mind Uhane (oohahnee), and sub conscious mind Unihipili (ooneeheepeelee).

I would highly recommend for you to read my website. http://www.geocities.com/huna101.

ANL - 2B

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 04:40 PM

Dewey, try emailing me at [e-mail]

We'll see if it works when I reply to your message.

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 04:48 PM

"You could probably have that published as poetry."

your probably right, Carol...that scares me. Poetry has been on the decline since Ogden Nash..*grin*

(I really DID do my best to just focus on the keyboard and let thoughts roll in....I think mine were shanghaied by j0hn from Hull and routed thru Amos, using reverse Polish notation.)

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:15 PM

BillD:

To determine if you could get it published as poetry, ask any 6 year olds if it is a poem- If they say no, you have a pretty good chance of publication, if not outright awards. If they say it is, forget it- you will not find anyone who will touch it with a ten foot pole...

And yes, it has been in decline- I wonder why?...


"In the old days a poet used to sweat turning out a sonnet, say. Very difficult form. Exactly 14 lines, all of them hung together with rhyme, rhythm, meter, perfectly. It was too much work for the poet, so blank verse and then free verse came in. And then anarchy. The new poet never bothered to learn how to write a sonnet, or to measure his lines in correct meter and to follow a rhythm system. He dashed off his inspired poem in a matter of a half hour and was surprised when after a few decades of this people stopped reading poetry."

Among the Bad Baboons, by Mack Reynolds
Copyright 1968 Galaxy Publishing Corp.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:25 PM

Good point, BB. There is some wonderful stuff out there in younger children's literature too, because children are assumed to still think and express themselves like normal human beings, I suppose, unprogrammed yet by sophisticated modern style and "coolness". There's a lot of great art in the better children's books. I wish there were more books written for adults that showed that sort of imagination.

Straightforward affirmative spiritual writing is often rejected too, because it's just not cynical enough to appeal to the "cool" set, steeped in their world-weary posturing and self-important negativism. It's as if they gloried in the rugged discovery that life is hard, mean, unfair, and ultimately tragic (not true!).

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 05:32 PM

LH,

Life can be unfair*- so what? It is what one makes of the situation that is important, not how much one complains about the unfairness of it all.


* As a dead white male, I should have it made- but don't get half the respect that I deserve...
8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:41 PM

Gold standard on tuesday is no clone of any heart//////


Dang, Bill, you were just getting to the rich mixture and making a breakthrough when you hung up the phone!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 08:58 PM

no, Amos...the phone rang! (Remember what happened when Coleridge was 'getting "Kubla Khan"?)

well, maybe I can recapture the moment sometime...

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 09:18 PM

(Remember what happened when Coleridge was 'getting "Kubla Khan"?)

I have a pop-up picture book of that poem, Bill. Honest to goodness, I really do. It was made by a very strange person named Nick Bantock (scroll down almost to the bottom). If you scroll down a bit further, you can see a book he made from a collection of old post cards called, "The Missing Nose Flute".

Now can you see what kinds of trouble ...fun you can get into when you let your mind roam free?

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Things I know about consciousness
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 03:11 AM

You see that correctly, Little Hawk, there is no answer to some questions.

I just wanted to get rid of that stupid argumentation that a materialistic world view is incomplete for there must be a mover behind what we see. It is stupid for it could be applied as well to another world view. Each single world view is open to that argumentation so let's just skip when we discuss a scientific world view. That only is applying a criticism to another view that could as well be made against one's own world view.

Wolfgang