BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 10:24 PM

Make sure to give them back their 6000 pounds of ammonium nitrate and their cell phone detonators.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: *daylia*
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:41 AM

Better yet, give it back to the RCMP! That way, next time there's important vote in Parliament and/or the planet's wealthiest powerbrokers/warmongers 'secretly' meet here to plot our collective military/economic futures, they could use it to set up another group of unfortunates at no further cost to taxpayers.

Recycling, if you will!

Of course, with the court's new publication ban we can only guess at the truth behind those 3 tons of ammonium nitrate and cellphone detonators. So please, take what I've said here with a big gram of nitro.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST,Fernando
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 10:24 AM

It's a bitch not being able to have a trial in the Media.

That way the perps can't claim they didn't get a fair trial because all the media coverage influenced people.

I'd rather wait and let the court determine if they are guilty or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 11:51 AM

one of their lawyers lamented about them being able to get a fair trial, with so much media coverage. (Although much of the information that came out recently such as storming the parliament and beheading the prime minister, or shooting into a crowd to kill as many people was actually released by the defence lawyers.
Now theyre lamenting about the publication ban. Its hard to have it both ways.

Imnot sure they will be all released, with any luck they (CSIS and the RCMP wont bugger it up like Air India trial. ) Here was the worst terrorist incident prior to 9/11 (most Americans dont even know about it) and the perpetrators got off scot free, even after milking the Canadian govt for hundreds of thousands in defense costs.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 12:45 PM

That way the perps can't claim they didn't get a fair trial because all the media coverage influenced people.

Too late. Thanks to the government's careful staging, they've already been convicted in the court of public opinion. So now, even if they are found innocent, nobody will notice because of the publication ban. The ban isn't for the purpose of protecting the accused. The ban is for the purpose of protecting the government.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST,Fernando
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 01:36 PM

Evidently judge Carol has determined that they are innocent based on hearesay evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 02:18 PM

I have not determined anything at all about their guilt or innocence. But if you want a fair trial for these people, you don't want to be using official channels to promote the idea that they are guilty, which is want the government has done in this case.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST,Fernando
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 09:15 AM

Judge Carol has ruled the the government is guilty of the charges.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: pdq
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 09:47 AM

GUEST,petr is correct in his point that most Americans know little about

                                                      Air India flight 182

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: 3refs
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 09:58 AM

Lawyers are lawyers, prosecutors or defenders. They both are guilty of promoting their clients, be them the defendants or the Queen. The Judge(probably a Justice of the Peace) did the right thing in issuing a publication ban as soon as he could so as not to taint the potential jury pool(good luck).
I will admit, that if a person has been charged with an offence, chances are they're probably guilty, but until it's proven in a court of law, they're presumed innocent. The government, by chargeing these people with criminal offences is suppost to promote their guilt, that's why charges where laid.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 12:20 PM

Laying charges is one thing. Using the media to convict them in the court of public opinion is another.

Since they have already done so much damage, the only way they can prevent further damage would be to lift the publication ban to allow both sides to be presented, which is what their attorney wants them to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 12:20 PM

*which is what the defendants attorney wants the government to do*

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST,Fernando
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 02:43 PM

Mistrial ! the case has had so much media coverage that the defendant cannot get a fair trial.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 12:53 PM

"Why do you see the speck speck that is in your brother's one eye and not the beam in his other" was in my mind when I posted.

I was amused and surprised when reading the first couple of responses that so many argued about the side issue of religion and ethnic background of the suspects and failed to see and criticise the real blunder in C.Ham's post. "Terrorist suspects" have been arrested and not "terrorists". Even the thread title was wrong. It was more or less at the same time when in London terrorist suspects have been arrested who turned out to be completely innocent.

Wolfgang