BS: The Archers UK Soap

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:19 AM

Helen, not Ruth. I've never liked Helen she was a miserable little cow in her teens as well. What is called "White and spiteful" by the older people around here.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:31 AM

Helen Archer Pretty lady, and a compatriot of El Greko's too, by the look of things!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 05:55 AM

Helen looks just as I expected, unlike Fallon, who is much more 'full of life' on my radio.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 03:39 PM

So what does Jazzer look like? Or will I be disappointed? I imagine him to be shortish, stocky with curly black hair and blue eyes

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 03:45 PM

Hah! I was wrong! He's six feet tall and has glass eyes 'cos he's blind!! Not really very close

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 04:45 PM

Well, Lynne, thanks for that, turns out old Jazzer is a Stomach Steinway Man! I must try some K.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 05:06 AM

Well the much trailed gay wedding on the Archers last night, left no cliche untouched. I laughed my way through almost the entire episode.
Vanessa Whitburn has reduced the programme to a vehicle for her own personal agendas, that's my opinion.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 06:13 AM

Maybe not just her own agenda - I believe Hayley may be a victim of a government-sponsored clamydia awareness campaign.

(But then, The Archers began as a medium for government-sponsored awareness campaigns aimed at 'countryfolk', so we shouldn't be too surprised.)

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 09:51 AM

Well I must say RAT-W and I shared the sick-bucket during the wedding, but I did enjoy the episode.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Gervase
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 03:33 PM

Not a dry leg in the house!
I must confess, though, that when I saw the photo of Adamanian in the Guardian i almost choked on my toast - two uglier coves it would be hard to picture. Truly the love that dare not show its face.
In our household we're taking bets on whether Helen's Tenerife shagfest will be the harbinger for a story line on chlamydia (why isn't one of Lynda snell's god-daughters cslled that?), AIDS or pregnancy.
And, if it's the latter, if Helen will hand the sprog over to Hailey.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST,Ancient Briton
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 03:39 PM

Sorry for the lapse I've been away hedge laying.

I've run out of TVO so the tractor stays where it is. Suburban sopisticates who can't punctuate really bring out the beast in me.

Which reminds me that there's another more rural sexual pastime that Vanessa's yet to add to the Archers mix......will Ed start getting dewy-eyed about Daisy the Jersey? It's only a matter of time...

Someone should alert the RSPCA in time to prevent another radio atrocity.

AB

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 07:08 AM

Hmmm...one of the few things that hasn't been on the Archers in it's 55 year history.

You're right Gervase...I saw the photo of AdamandIan in the Radio Times. I had seen Adam before so he was no surprise but Ian was so totally unlike his voice I could hardly believe it. He looks something like Alexi Sale!!

So who's up for a Christmas sing in the Bull as a preliminary to the Folk Club?

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 07:59 AM

Sid Perks is too bloody miserable, anyway I don't suppose he has a PEL in place.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST,Ancient Briton
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 12:33 PM

The Bull must be ok as Fallon has promoted a number of rock evenings there.

How about a ceilidh - our band would do it for a small consideration. We'll also back Jolene in a little half-time cameo spot.

AB

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 16 Dec 06 - 01:39 PM

I was wondering which was Adam and which was Ian (not having your advantage, Lynne). And I suppose Adam must be pushing forty, so we can't expect a young Adonis. Maybe Ian has been sampling too much of his own cooking.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 17 Dec 06 - 06:12 AM

Tell you what...let's talk to Lillian! She'll be in it if we tell her it will be a laugh and she'll get right up Jolene's nose by arranging it whether they say so or not!

Adam will be 40 next June. I know some pretty gorgeous guys of 39 or so!

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: sian, west wales
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 12:57 PM

OK - someone here is gonna want t' be caught red-handed.

sian

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:16 AM

So would YOU take on Rory?

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:30 AM

Difficult one, lad should be with his Dad if possible, but I can understand Jennifer's angst too, although for a lady with her history, wringing her hands about what the neighbours will think is a bit hypocritical. She also claims to be worried about what her ghastly spoilt brat Alice will think. Well from what I have heard so far, her response would be 'Cool', as that's about the sum total of her conversation.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:31 AM

It´s the hypocrisy of Jennifer "four children by three different fathers" Aldridge making out she is some sort of rural lairdette when in fact she is little better than a Trollope

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:46 AM

Doesn't she live near Barchester Towers?
G ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:47 AM

AND she had an affair with Debbie's father in fairly recent years. However, I can understand her point of view. In this instance I feel really sorry for Brian who, with all his shortcomings has always been a pretty good father. To take on someone else's children is not an easy thing but he does appear to consider the two step-children as his own. No surprise then, that he should care about little Rory. The whole crux of the matter is that at some point before long, there will be a little boy of, what, five? with no mother. He needs his father. Interesting to see what Debbie's reaction will be.
Do we know if Kate knows about it?

My bet is that, in the end Jennifer will give in and take him

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:00 AM

Much as I love the actress who plays Debbie in her real skin, I loathe the Debbie character, and if she's upset, then that makes it all worthwhile in my book.
Kate is another waste of space, and South Africa's not far enough away for her, even the Moon's not far enough!
I do though agree that somehow Rory will end up in Ambridge, maybe Roy and Hayley will be paid to adopt him?

Giok
G.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:04 AM

Brian's an arsole, I can't stand him.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:07 AM

hEllo JoHn, i hav senT yoU a pm.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: sian, west wales
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:09 AM

Na, I think Adam and Ian should adopt him.

It's very weird - feeling sorry for Brian, of all people.

I'm with MBSL: Jennifer will fold.

sian

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:10 AM

I thought for a minute that was a fake Sir j0hn, then I spotted the deliberate mistake.
Hello John, how's the taxi trade?
G.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:12 AM

Adam and Ian were the ones I thought of first funnily enough, but although Adam started feeling sorry for Brian in an episode the other night, do you think he hates Debbie enough to take on Rory just to upset her?
G ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Anne Lister
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:36 AM

I think Lizzie and Nigel will adopt the little scrap. Personally (and surprisingly, as I generally think she's a pain) I'm with Jennifer on this one - can't see she has any responsibility at all for Brian's by-blows. Brian took her on knowing her history and the score, so his attitude to her kids is of course different.

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Michael
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:07 AM

Just been reading the synopsis; it's spelt 'Ruari'

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:16 AM

Yes, I thought it would be spelled the Irish way but couldn't work out how that went.

No Jennifer has no responsibilty for him at all, but Brian does. That's what makes it so difficult. And responsibilty apart, this is a little boy with no mother. He needs family.

Actually I like Brian. With him you know exactly what you're getting. And I agree with Giok, Debbie is a pain. Not half so much of a pain as Adam though.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:29 AM

A pain in the arse Lynne?

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Morticia
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:40 AM

I just wish Jennifer and Brian would stop angsting all over the place. Personally I can't understand why Siobhan would push it further when Jennifer was so blunt with her, I wouldn't chance my child to her under these circumstances.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:19 AM

Well not to me Giok...maybe to you...

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:24 AM

Perhaps Ruary could replace Ed's lost "son".?

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:46 AM

Waht deliberate mistake?

anyway-maybe Maddona will adopt him?

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: terrier
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:40 PM

Oh Lizzie, I feel so guilty about how I treated poor Siobhan, we'll just have to adopt poor little Ruary now !

Now, now, Nigel, we mustn't get involved......


'scuse me while I go and eat some grass......

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:17 PM

I reckon it's Lizzie and Nigel who'll end up with him.

This is, of course, a set-up for what may be the most slow-burning storyline in soap history: who gets the farm when Brian - well - buys the farm.

Answer in 2032?

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: terrier
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:11 PM

Struth, Ruth, great minds an' all that.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 07:38 AM

If Nigel and Elizabeth adopt him he could be up for inheriting Lower Loxley as well as Brookfield [just have to arrange for Lily and Freddy to drown in the lake].

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 07:50 AM

Ian and Adam would be a very good solution though Lizzie and Nigel are the most likely adopters.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:08 AM

The script writers would have to get rid of an awful lot of other heirs for him to inherit Brookfield! It could be the theme for a good disaster folk song....mass deaths of David, Ruth, their three children, Shula, Kenton, Lizzie and their children, not to mention Tony, his kids, Jennifer and her kids and her kids' kids.....

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:40 AM

Oops! Sorree, I got my farms muddled - I meant Home Farm, not Brookfield.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Folkiedave
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 10:40 AM

The script writers would have to get rid of an awful lot of other heirs for him to inherit Brookfield! It could be the theme for a good disaster folk song....mass deaths of David, Ruth, their three children, Shula, Kenton, Lizzie and their children, not to mention Tony, his kids, Jennifer and her kids and her kids' kids.....

Of course those older Archers fans will remember something similar in a Tony Hancock script called "The Bowmen" - when as they all came walking across a field towards him (Hancock) an ancient quarry opened up and they all fell in.............as my memory has it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: terrier
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:25 PM

I think maybee an ancient quarry has opened up and the scriptwriters are about to fall in! Yawn!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 03:30 AM

I think that over the last five years or so the scriptwriters have come up with some brilliant stories. At times I've been hardly able to wait for the next installment. They must be pretty good or why are we a)listening to it and b) spending time discussing it.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 04:22 AM

Thing is, that to pull off these stories Lynne, it is often necessary for people to act totally out of character, which is what annoys me.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 05:25 AM

What worries me is that Nigel was getting his wine made by the nasty man who was causing Tom problems with his sausage van last year, and now the same chap seems to be advising Ruth and David about their new hedge. OK, I know he is appearing under different names, but I reckon they are just pseudonyms. I wouldn't trust him with my wine.

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: MBSLynne
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 05:33 AM

And I think they all sound like Kenton.....

I don't think people act out of character often. In fact I've been impressed in the past by how3 they manage over 55 years to make people's characters consistent. Lots of people in the other world (ie Not Borsetshire) will suddenly do something unpredicted when something happens that knocks them out of their usual channel. Who were you thinking of in particualr Giok?

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: The Archers UK Soap
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 05:46 AM

Ruth was an unlikely candidate for a fling with the cowman.