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BS: Language - English/Geordie

Bert 09 May 07 - 11:07 AM
skipy 09 May 07 - 11:18 AM
Dave the Gnome 09 May 07 - 11:21 AM
jacqui.c 09 May 07 - 12:28 PM
katlaughing 09 May 07 - 02:16 PM
TRUBRIT 10 May 07 - 12:07 AM
Geoff the Duck 10 May 07 - 04:30 AM
Naemanson 10 May 07 - 04:46 AM
HuwG 10 May 07 - 06:22 AM
A Wandering Minstrel 10 May 07 - 08:21 AM
Geordie-Peorgie 10 May 07 - 12:34 PM
bill\sables 11 May 07 - 06:59 AM
GUEST,Scoville 11 May 07 - 02:52 PM
Herga Kitty 11 May 07 - 07:26 PM
TRUBRIT 11 May 07 - 11:30 PM
Dave Hanson 12 May 07 - 04:35 AM
katlaughing 12 May 07 - 11:39 PM
Bert 13 May 07 - 01:52 AM
Herga Kitty 13 May 07 - 06:53 PM
Geordie-Peorgie 13 May 07 - 07:45 PM
GUEST,Greycap 13 May 07 - 08:07 PM
GUEST,ibo 14 May 07 - 10:34 AM
Geordie-Peorgie 14 May 07 - 01:15 PM
Wolfhound person 15 May 07 - 08:50 AM
Geordie-Peorgie 15 May 07 - 03:35 PM
Herga Kitty 15 May 07 - 06:46 PM
shepherdlass 16 May 07 - 05:35 PM
Geordie-Peorgie 16 May 07 - 06:21 PM
Rusty Dobro 17 May 07 - 04:04 AM
Geordie-Peorgie 20 May 07 - 05:26 PM
GUEST,'mericun 21 May 07 - 02:27 AM
GUEST,Eric the Geordie 21 May 07 - 10:05 AM
Geordie-Peorgie 21 May 07 - 02:19 PM
Folkiedave 22 May 07 - 11:07 AM
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Subject: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Bert
Date: 09 May 07 - 11:07 AM

Just for fun and also 'cos I didn't want to "drift" the other thread.

English "I'm Going Hone"
Geordie "I'm ganning 'ame" or something like that

Lets hear from you Geordies out there so we can eventually understand Bill Sables (Sorry Bill).


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: skipy
Date: 09 May 07 - 11:18 AM

certainly
wayiman
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 May 07 - 11:21 AM

Where do Geordies spend their bank holidays? The DYI store.

Why can Geordies not feel the cold - An extra Y chromasone - The YI one.

I suppose i had better get learning it really seeing as I now spend half my life in Newcastle and Whitley Bay:-)

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 May 07 - 12:28 PM

My children's maternal grandmother was a Geordie, with an accent that you could cut with a knife, even after many years down South.

It took a while to atune my ears to what she was saying. It really is almost a different language. She would talk about "Taalkin the hind leg off a cuddy" and there was the 'YI Man' as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 07 - 02:16 PM

Oh, you can have such fun with this, esp. with the English-Geordie Translator. Or, Aah , yee can hev such fun wi this, esp. wi the English-Geordie Translator.


The English:
I bought some flowers for my mother.


The Geordie:
Ah bowt some floo-ors fre me mutha .


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:07 AM

Years back I travelled with a couple of Geordie girls -- they were very nice but I swear to God I didn't know what they were saying or weeks-- but although they sounded completely different to me, they didn't seem to have any difficulty understanding me -- just the reverse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:30 AM

Bert.
NOBODY understands Bill Sables!
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Naemanson
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:46 AM

Now, I know you will not believe this but... Wakana understands him. Most of the time she cannot understand anybody with an accent, and half the time she can't understand me, but Bill, that's another story. Of course, she loves Bill. I guess most of you women do. I'm fond of him myself but that's as far as I'm willing to go especially since my wife loves him. *grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: HuwG
Date: 10 May 07 - 06:22 AM

Ancient Geordie joke:

General George Armstrong Custer once employed a Geordie as a scout. Just before the Battle of the Little Bighorn, Custer sent him to find the Indian camp. The scout came running back. "Sor, Sor", he said. "The Indians is just ower that hill, and they're aal hollering and whooping and playing drums."

"Well done, laddie", says Custer. "Were they war drums?"

"Why no, man", says Geordie. "They were theors."

****

Many (30+) years ago, Mike Neville and George House of BBC Northeast launched a spoof "teach yourself" language record, called "Larn yersel' Geordie". It followed the teach-yourself format, with Geordie phrases followed by the "official" Oxford English pronounciation. For example,

"Haway doon Chinese, pet?" = "Would you care to dine with me, Miss?"
"Gerraway!" = "You surely don't mean to tell me!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 10 May 07 - 08:21 AM

Bert,

that would be
Aa's away hyem for I'm going home :)

Back in the dark ages the viking ship Anna was attempting to sneak up the Tyne in order to indulge in rape, pillage and a visit to Northumberland Street when it was spotted by a geordie lookout on Tynemouth pier. Geordie sings out "whit booats that thor? and the viking captain calls back Anna! Geordie thinks a minute then shouts back "A knaa ye knaa, but aa divvent knaa until ye tells us what booats that thor....."


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:34 PM

What fettle yez buggaz!!!

"Lrn Yersel' Geordie" wez a series of byuks and Mike Neville took most of the script/idea from them.

There wez some really crackin' translations.....

English: It would appear that someone has damged the fruit machine
Geordie: Whe's buggered the bandit!

English: Your sister is a feisty young wench
Geordie: Your Bella's a canny bit lass foreby she's a workie-ticket.

There ia aalso the standard Geordie to Japanese translation of...
Hoy! Howay! Hoy a hammer ower heah!

And in the pipeline is a new TV series aboot the Tyne River Police

It's caalled "Howay Five-Oh"

Gerruptivit! Ye knaah it meks sense

Love yez aall
Geordie P

PS Aahve still got a coupla geordie byuks somewhere in the attic (It's NOT a loft! It's an ATTIC! - AND we divven't hev lunch, we hev DINNER!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: bill\sables
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:59 AM

Then there was the Geordie who was asked if he knew any card games
"Wey aye" he said "Theores ice hocky, it's the caadest game aa knaa"


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: GUEST,Scoville
Date: 11 May 07 - 02:52 PM

a) Ignorant American here: What's a Geordie?

b) Do UK TV stations subtitle them the way American ones often do to Cajuns?


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 11 May 07 - 07:26 PM

Someone who knows the difference between warking with their hands and warking with their feet?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:30 PM

A Geordie is someone who comes from the NewCastle on Tyne area of UK......they have quite a distinctive accent as exhibited by Jimmy Nail in an old British Comedy series called 'Aug Wiedersehn, Pet......


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 May 07 - 04:35 AM

Geordie ? a Scotsman with his brains kicked out.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 May 07 - 11:39 PM

Most of you probably already know about this, but I thought I'd post it, anyway, from Wikipedia:

Newcastle publisher Frank Graham's Geordie Dictionary states:

    "The origin of the word Geordie has been a matter of much discussion and controversy. All the explanations are fanciful and not a single piece of genuine evidence has ever been produced."

In Graham's many years of research, the earliest record he has found of the terms use was in 1823 by the famous local comedian, Billy Purvis. Purvis had set up a booth at the Newcastle Races on the Town Moor. In an angry tirade against a rival showman, who had hired a young pitman called Tom Johnson to dress as a clown, Billy cried out to the clown:

    "Ah man, wee but a feul wad hae sold off his furnitor and left his wife. Noo, yor a fair doon reet feul, not an artificial feul like Billy Purvis! Thous a real Geordie! gan man an hide thysel! gan an' get thy picks agyen. Thou may de for the city, but never for the west end o' wor toon."
    (Rough translation: "Oh man, who but a fool would have sold off his furniture and left his wife? Now, you're a fair downright fool, not an artificial fool like Billy Purvis! You're a real Geordie! Go, man, and hide yourself! Go and get your pick (axes) again. You may do for the city, but never for the west end of our town!")


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Bert
Date: 13 May 07 - 01:52 AM

Of course Naemanson we all LOVE Bill. We just can't understand a bloody word he says.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 May 07 - 06:53 PM

Of course, there's the Jez Lowe song that says the only true Geordies now are Sting and Johnny Handle!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 13 May 07 - 07:45 PM

Hey! Eric The Red! Ye cheeky buggah! Aah refuse te reply with the time honoured response that "Ye wadn't hev a scotsman if a geordie hadn't sh*gged a pig"

Aah'm far too polite for that!


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 13 May 07 - 08:07 PM

Whey Ay! You beggers!
You divent'diss' Bill Sables! He doesn't come from Yorkshire, but got to Yorkshire as quickly as he could, he's now my boss in the Foolish Virgins ceilidh band and I understand nearly, well almost,every phrase he uses.
Mind you, I worked for a Gateshead company for 4 years, so my linguistic understanding of the Geordie patois is fairly ok.
Roger Knowles


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: GUEST,ibo
Date: 14 May 07 - 10:34 AM

i dont even think geordies understand each other


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 14 May 07 - 01:15 PM

Aha!! That's becoz the' come from different parts o' the Tyne.

It's a well-knaan fact that even some villages had a different accent at one end from t'other.

Aah remember me Mam gannin into the scullery te put the kettle on for me Da's supper and when she come back inte the sittin' room we could hardly understand her - Now THAT is localised accenting!

Seriously, but! There are parts o' Northumberland where the 'gutteral' roll of the 'R' is so pronounced it soonds like somebody being strangled.

Try it!! Imagine you're sayin' 'RAINBOW' but instead of actually pronouncin' the 'r', just clear your throat like ye've been smokin' 40 a day for 25 years then say "ainbow" after it.

Practice a bit then try "Roond and roond the rugged rocks, the ragged rascal ran"

See hoo ye gerron!!

And aalwez remember, every sentence in Geordie ends with "Ye Buggah!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 15 May 07 - 08:50 AM

"It's a well-knaan fact that even some villages had a different accent at one end from t'other."

I live right at the edges between SE Northumberland pitmatic and rural Northumbrian. In the older residents, this produces an impenetrable language which is reputed to be closer to Angle (as in the Anglo bit of Saxon)than anywhere else in Britain. Those whose origins are to the north come over with the county accent, those from the south, or who were miners, sound more like Geordie.

I'm used to it, though I can't speak it. It's more of a foreign language than a dialect. I do throw in the occasional local phrase, so that for instance "to go shopping" is "to gan and seek".

Paws


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 15 May 07 - 03:35 PM

There's a little knaan fact that thooands of years agan the Northern Geordies (up Alnwick way) were descended from a mixture of Angles, whe had come ower from Northern Europe, and Saxons whe had come te England via France and moved North.

This mix of Angles and Saxons were knaan as 'Axles' and the' wez the hub of the whole Geordie culture

Honest! It's as true as aah'm sat here wormin' me whippet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 May 07 - 06:46 PM

I remember Louis Killen at the National talking about the differences between Newcastle and Northumberland dialects, and saying he had difficulties understanding some of the people he visited in rural areas.

My earlier comment about warking preceded the news items about the proposals for office workers to keep healthy by operating their computers while keeping pace on treadmills......

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: shepherdlass
Date: 16 May 07 - 05:35 PM

I'm County Durham born and bred, and still people from Gateshead can lose me if they talk quickly enough/taalk fast, like. But I'd probably understand Bill Sables.

By the way, the original Geordie Byeuks adapted and recorded by Mike Neville and George House were written by Scott Dobson who was also a modern artist and critic of some note. If he kept his coals in the bath, it was probably a Tracey Emin moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 16 May 07 - 06:21 PM

Ye knaah that Tracy Emin was the nsme of Cushie Butterfield's whippet?

Honest! Whe let the dogs oot!! Woof! Woof!


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 17 May 07 - 04:04 AM

A Geordie girl-friend of mine, an air hostess who made cabin announcements with a cut-glass BBC accent and spoke one or two of her five languages to a standard which could pass her off as a native speaker, once came in from work and said 'Ee, me feet's is killin' us!' It occurred to me that every single word in that sentence would have been considered wrong in my English lessons at (Home Counties) school. Didn't put me off, tho.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 20 May 07 - 05:26 PM

Hhey man, Rusty!

Aah'm surprised she didn't follow it up with "What Fettle, Petal"


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: GUEST,'mericun
Date: 21 May 07 - 02:27 AM

The follow-up program(me) to Are You Being Served? had a Geordie character in it, didn't it? Mr. Molterd? The program where the characters from the store reunited in the country. Wasn't Molterd Geordie? Billy something, the comedian. Hilarious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: GUEST,Eric the Geordie
Date: 21 May 07 - 10:05 AM

Did ah tell yez aboot the time we went to Paris ? wa gets in a restaurant an wor lass sez ta the waiter, 'ave ye got frogs legs ? the waiter sez mais oui hinnie, she sez well then hop off an get uz some peas puddin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 21 May 07 - 02:19 PM

Haallaaoo Eric Ye Buggah!! Lang time nee see!!

Hoo's ya mutha deein' these days!

Aah've not seen you since your Bella gorra boobs caught in the mangle!

Me and that Ratcatchers send wor best and hope the swellin's gannin doon by noo.

Gerramongstit Ye Fyeul!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Folkiedave
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:07 AM

A geordie stands on a nail and it pierces his foot. He goes to the doctor to get signed off.

The doctor asks him "Can you walk on it?"

"Walk on it?" says Geordie "I canna even walk on it".

Work/walk.......for those not sure. It's all in the pronunciation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Language - English/Geordie
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 22 May 07 - 12:38 PM

"Wawk? Aah can hardly Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhk"


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