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Eve Goldberg 14 Mar 97 - 10:48 AM
Coralena 17 Mar 97 - 11:17 AM
Eve Goldberg 17 Mar 97 - 04:36 PM
Eve Goldberg 30 Jun 99 - 08:58 PM
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Subject: Evalina - words and source(s)
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 14 Mar 97 - 10:48 AM

Hi

I've got a recording of a song called "Evalina" on a Critton Hollow String Band album. The chorus goes:

Evalina, sweet Evalina my love for you will never, never die

I can't make out all the words. Any takers?

Also, any information on where this song comes from would be greatly appreciated


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Subject: Lyr Add: SWEET EVELINA
From: Coralena
Date: 17 Mar 97 - 11:17 AM

SWEET EVELINA

Way down in the meadow where the lily first blows,
Where the wind from the mountain ne'er ruffles the rose,
Lives fond Evelina, the sweet little dove,
The pride of the valley, the girl that I love.

CHORUS: Sweet Evelina, dear Evelina,
My love for thee shall never, never die.
Dear Evelina, sweet Evelina,
My love for thee shall never, never die.

She's fair as a rose, like a lamb she is meek,
And she never was known to put paint on her cheek.
In the most graceful curls hangs her raven-black hair,
And she never requires perfumery there. CHORUS

Evelina and I, one fine evening in June,
Took a walk all alone by the light of the moon.
The planets all shone, for the heavens were clear,
And I felt round the heart, oh! most mightily queer. CHORUS

Three years have gone by and I've not got a dollar.
Evelina still lives in the green grassy holler.
Although I am fated to marry her never,
I'll love her I'm sure for ever and ever. CHORUS

*********************************************************
Now, there is another song I know of that my Daddy sang and he liked to sing it because it tickled us so.

Evalina and I went a fishing one day.
Evalina caught a minnow and I caught a bass.
Evalina fell in the water clean up to herrrrrr
Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies
Evalina fell in the water clean up to her eyes.

We were little and we never heard Daddy say a bad word and of course he wasn't using one but we'd try to catch him at it when he sang the song and his eyes would twinkle because he knew we were trying to catch him. Years later, a bit older, going down the river fishing with Daddy, when I'd get my line caught in a tree I did here a few of those words. :)


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Subject: RE: Evalina - words and source(s)
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 17 Mar 97 - 04:36 PM

Thanks! Still trying to find out where it comes from, if anyone has any idea.


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Subject: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:58 PM

Hi folks -

I've been signed on for a while but this is my first posting (well, almost. I did reply to someone else's message earlier tonight) I'm looking forward to hanging out with you folks and participating in the discussions.

Just as a way of introduction, I'm a Toronto-area musician (Hi Rick, Tony, Ian A. and others!), folk music camp organizer, and record company employee (Borealis, Canada's folk music label).

So here's my question: A few years ago, I learned a song called "Evalina" (pronounced Ev-a-LEEN-a) from a Critton Hollow String Band album. I tried to find out where it came from but didn't turn up much at the time.

Recently, I learned another version of the same song from a musical friend- completely different feel, very similar words, except it was pronounced "Ev-a-LINE-a" He learned it from a Coope, Boyes, and Simpson album.

By doing a little research (read: asking Sing Out! Songfinder Shelley Posen), I've found out that it was a parlour song from the 1800's that was very popular up through the 1920's. Ola Belle Reed recorded it (I'm assuming that's where Critton Hollow would have learned it), and so did Ed McCurdy, interestingly enough. I haven't heard either of their recordings yet.

I'm wondering where the Coope, Boyes, and Simpson version would have come from. Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Dale Rose
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 10:42 PM

Well, this is the right place for what you are looking for. Just go to The Lester S. Levy Sheet Music Site, type evelina in the search box, and the sheet music will come up. I thought we had a discussion of the song fairly recently, but it must not have been part of the thread title, because I can't find it. It was published in 1863, but the sheet music listed the authors as Words by M and Music by T. ?????

I do remember it coming up in the old time music news group. I'll look there and see if I can find it.

There have been numerous earlier recordings as well, right offhand I can name LuluBelle and Scotty, and The Blue Sky Boys. Like any other song, people adapt it to their own arrangements. I have also heard it pronounced both ways.


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Subject: RE: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Dale Rose
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 11:10 PM

On the old time news group, William A. Kristensen listed these recordings.

Sweet Evelina, dear Evelina - Was recorded by Doc Roberts & Asa Martin on 1/13/30 on Gennett Master No. 16089, but never pressed on any label.

Sweet Evelina; Peggy O'neil - Was recorded by Johnnie & Mack on 3/1/30 on Gennett Master No. 16345, but never pressed on any label.

Sweet Evalina - Was recorded by the "Arkansas Woodchopper" (Luther Ossenbrink) on 2/10/30 and produced on Champion 16053, Gennett 7264, Supertone 9643.

Sweet Evalina - Was recorded by The Blue Sky Boys on 8/2/37 and produced on Bluebird 7348 and Montgomery Ward 7323.

Sweet Evalina - Was recorded by (Phil) REEVES & (Ernest) MOODY - (date ??) and produced on Victor 21188.

Sweet Evalina - Was recorded by the SHELTON BROTHERS (date??) and produced on Decca 5261.

(My additions) The Blue Sky Boys version was released on CD, but my understanding is that is now out of print. The Lulu Belle and Scotty Wiseman version is available on Starday CD 351, as Sweet Evalina. Kenny Baker and Josh Graves do an instrumental version on Rebel CD 1108, originally on Puritan 5001. There have also been versions by Doc Watson with Flatt and Scruggs (Columbia LP 9443), and by Ed McCurdy (Tradition LPs 1003 and 1051). Lynn Chirps Smith has done it, too, but I don't have the info on that. Art Thieme gave me his address some time ago, but I never followed up on it.

A bit of musical history off on a tangent. Phil Reeves and Ernest Moody, listed above, were members of the noted string band, The Georgia Yellowhammers. Ernest Moody (Actually, CHARLES Ernest, or C E Moody) is also noted as the author of two well known gospel songs, Drifting Too Far From The Shore and Kneel At The Cross.


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Subject: RE: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Dale Rose
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:48 AM

Sheeeeoooottt! I'll get this right sooner or later. It is also in the database, just enter evalina in the blue search box in the upper right hand corner of this page. I had checked evelina, as it was originally spelled. I also did not check for possible variations from the sheet music. I'll leave that to you.


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Subject: RE: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 09:32 PM

Thanks Dale! Ask and ye shall receive!

That gives me a good bunch of stuff to track down. Now, when will that happen?

I did try searching Digital Tradition when I first learned the song about 3 or 4 years ago, but it didn't turn anything up. Anyway, I had the words already, so it wouldn't have helped much.

Anyway thanks again.

Eve


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Subject: RE: Just getting started and help with 'Evalina'
From: Dale Rose
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 10:22 PM

The reason you couldn't find it is that it was not added until the Oct98 revision. I did locate the earlier thread from 1997, but after looking at it, I see you were the person inquiring, so obviously there is no point in directing you to it! (or was it some other Eve??)


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Subject: RE: Evalina - words and source(s)
From: masato sakurai
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 08:28 AM

SWEET EVALINA (sic, in the DT), also called "Dear Evelina" (Kenny Roberts's recording is at The Record Lady's All-Time Country Favorites) or "Dear Evalina" (as at Traditional Ballad Index), is in the DT with no attribution. This song, however, was written by M. (words) & T. (melody), and published in 1863 as "Sweet Evelina" (note the spelling). Sheet music is at the Levy Collection:
Title: Sweet Evelina.
Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Words by M. Melody by T. Composed and Arranged for the Piano Forte by Mrs. Parkhurst.
T. Mrs. Parkhurst Publication: New York: Horace Waters, 481 Broadway, 1863.
See also More American Civil War Music (1861-1865) (under "1863") , with lyrics & midi.


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Subject: RE: Evalina - words and source(s)
From: GUEST,Lighter at work
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 08:36 AM

I almost hate to point it out, but the first stanza of this old parlor song evidently inspired the "rugby" song "Charlotte the Harlot." NOT for the squeamish!


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Subject: Origins: Sweet Evelina
From: GUEST,Art
Date: 10 May 12 - 12:06 AM

I have come across of an 1862 print of Sweet Evelina, All I can find is it was first released into print in 1863. True? or do I have something unknown to exist?

Thanks, Art


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Subject: RE: Origins: Sweet Evelina
From: GUEST,Art
Date: 10 May 12 - 07:33 AM

Can send pics. Hope someone can help.

Thanks


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Subject: RE: Origin: Evalina? / Sweet Evelina
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 13 - 06:20 PM

it is sad we have lost some history of ;sweet evelina. old timer joe


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sweet Evalina? / Sweet Evelina
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Oct 13 - 08:14 PM

Sweet Evelina appears in "Heart Songs" as "Dear Evelina, Sweet Evelina," reversing the first words of the chorus in the original 1863 sheet music and causing some confusion. The mistaken pronunciation "Evalina" is also common.

The song as sung by "all the minstrel bands" , is listed on the title page of the sheet music (Levy Sheet Music) as "Composed and arranged for the Piano Forte by Mrs. Parkhurst."
Words by "M", melody by "T."
The composers of a number of the minstrel songs are unknown or at best guessed at.
The guess "tradtion" in the Traditional Ballad Index seems to be wrong, since lyrics from before the 1863 publication are unknown.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Sweet Evalina / Sweet Evelina
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 16 Oct 13 - 05:36 AM

Coope Boyes & Simpson learned 'Sweet Evalina' for Tim Laycock's adaptation of of Stephen Sydney Reynolds' (1881-1919) novel, 'A Poor Man's House' which was performed at Sidmouth Folk Week around 1993. The novel was published in 1908 and is an account of turn-of-the-century life in the fishing community of Seacombe [Sidmouth]. At one point, a leading character, Tony Widger, sings a fragment of a song: a fragment is sung by

"Sweet Ev-eli-na, sweet Ev-eli-na!
My lo-ove for yu-u
Shall nev-ver, never die...."

Tim Laycock included the whole song, which Coope Boyes & Simpson (in one of their earliest public performances) sang and later recorded.


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