Tech: Hide Glue (UK)

Subject: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:25 AM

Hi All.
I'm wanting to do some minor repairs on a vintage banjo. Mainly repairing the binding on the fingerboard.
To do the job properly, I ought to use Hide Glue. I have tried internet searches for a supplier, but everything which I have found so far is on the USA side of the big pond.
Of course, I could order stuff from the American E-Bay and get it shipped, but that seems a long way if it is possible to find some more locally.
Then again, with exchange rates at the level they were last time I looked, it may be cheaper to do just that.
Does anyone know of a UK supplier?
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:30 AM

1. Get an old horse, preferably dead. (Check your local knacker.)
2. Skin it.
3. Toss the skin in a pot and cover with water. (You can use the kitchen stove and the kitchen pots for this.)
4. Boil it until you have a mucilagenous "stuff" in the pot.
5. There's your hide glue! Simple, wasn't it?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:38 AM

You want Scotch glue. Try sheppy.ltd.uk.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: redsnapper
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:52 AM

Both Touchstone Tonewoods or David Dyke will be able to do that for you Geoff. I use both suppliers and both are reliable.

RS

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: GUEST,Mingulay at work
Date: 23 May 07 - 11:53 AM

Isn't it illegal to render Scotsmen down for glue?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Micca
Date: 23 May 07 - 12:19 PM

Geoff, try Alec Tiranti, the sculpture supplies house, it is what the violin makers at the College used, you me find it more local to you by searching forRabbit skin glue

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:09 PM

Thanks for responses so far. I'll peruse when I have time.

Glue from both horses and scotsmen? Is it the oat content that gives strength?
I don't think it's illegal to render, but you may have to batter and deep fry first?

Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 23 May 07 - 05:27 PM

Axminster Tools have all the glues you could possibly want, including hide (scotch)glue and rabbitskin - though this is more usually used as a size for gold leaf. They have a very user friendly mail order service and internet ordering.
KYBTTS

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Morticia
Date: 23 May 07 - 06:02 PM

Should you be rendering to Scotsman, all that is Scottish?

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Bonecruncher
Date: 23 May 07 - 06:44 PM

Hi Geoff
Hide Glue also goes under the names of Scotch Glue and Pearl Glue (because it is supplied as little pearls).
Axminster Power Tool Centre (freephone 0800 371822) is the supplier I use regularly. Excellent mail order service, but will charge £3.95 postage on orders under £45.00.
Liberon Pearl Glue, order code Pearl250 for 250 grammes is what you want. Price £4.25 plus postage.
As it is but a small job, you will need very little.
Are you going to Chippenham FF this weekend? If so I can give you a suitable quantity for your job.
PM me ASAP.
Colyn.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: The Walrus
Date: 23 May 07 - 08:55 PM

I get my rabbit skin glue from an art shop in Croydon.

If you have a good art supplier anywhere near you, try there, the glue is mixed with 'whiting' to make Gesso.
Altenatively, try any consevator/restorer supply company.

Tom

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 07 - 09:44 PM

I have used rabbit skin glue, but it is very weak in strength compared to good old luthier quality hide glue. Hide glue is one of the best things ever invented.
Al

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 07 - 10:04 PM

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Clones ... when you see the duck....ask what the ....?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:29 AM

Oooh!
Pretty green words...

Where they going???

All gone!

Oh, they's back again....





Oooh!
Pretty green words...





Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: pitheris
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:11 AM

Scrolling Messages Are Annoying!

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:13 PM

Pretty though!
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: pitheris
Date: 25 May 07 - 06:52 AM

Frank Ford has some excellent info on his "frets.com" site regarding hide glue:
Using animal gelatin in place of hide glue.

Article about hide glue.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 28 May 07 - 10:48 AM

Thanks for the links, pitheris. Thanks also to Bonecruncher, who has sent me some helpful stuff via the PM system.

Once I had an actual brand name to use in a web search it became slightly easier. "Liberon Pearl Glue" brought up a hardware shop in Bradford, which I have used in the past for other miscellaneaous bolts or tools. I can drop across sometime and call at the asian supermarkets for spices as well. It makes the trip worthwhile.
Of course "Scotch Glue" was almost useless in a web search. All it brought up was the 3M brand name "Scotch tape" and other products from the same manufacturer, none of which were hide glue.

Once again, thanks for help given so far.
Quack!
Geoff.

Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 May 07 - 11:19 AM

Hide the Glue!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Hide Glue (UK)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 May 07 - 02:12 PM

GtD, link no. 6 in a Google search for "Scotch glue" gets you the manufacturer I posted about. That was how I found them. Not exactly useless.

Google is getting better at this sort of thing. A few years ago 90% of the hits you got for "pyrex glass" were for boil-safe sex toys.