BS: McDictionary?

Subject: BS: McDictionary?
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 24 May 07 - 06:27 AM

It seems that McDonalds are upset by the Oxford English Dictionary's definition of "McJob" ( a dead- end, low- paid job), and want them to change it. And apparently they are supported by the McLabour MP, Clive Betts.

So here are some new definitions:

McEconomy (n): an economic system based on mutual trafficking of low- grade services. I sell you insurance in the morning, you sell be a burger in the evening. See McRoEconomics.

McDemocracy (n): A political system in which the people elect the government, and big business then tells the government what its policies are.

McMall (n): An area dedicated to shopping in which all the shops are identical to those in all other McMalls. The usual British town centre of out-of-town shopping area.

McCopyright (v): to assume that all words preceded by "Mc" are automatically the intellectual property of a certain McDyspepsia retailer.

McCavity (n): The mystery cat. Cause of caries (see archbishop under McReligion) in consumers of McCulinaryDisasters.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 24 May 07 - 07:56 AM

I agree that it is insulting to the people that work for McDonalds.

I don't know why they don't just remove the word altogether.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 24 May 07 - 08:01 AM

The trouble is that that's the word people use when they mean a low-grade job. The OED is descriptive not prescriptive.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:09 AM

McRame - The art of weaving old wrappers from straws into decorative items. Thought to have been started by people that used to be in McJobs that ended up in institutions due to terminal boredom.

Wonder what McD's think of Leezie Linsey

My name it is Lord Ronald McDonald...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: redsnapper
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:28 AM

McWinge and McThreat: Terms used by an annoying multinational fast food retailer

RS

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Peace
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:32 AM

So let me see. We have words like 'ni##er' in there, but McJob (the Irish guy from the Bible who had all those labours) is insulting. Right.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Peace
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:32 AM

I wonder if they know the term, McFuckoff?

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 24 May 07 - 10:08 AM

..it is insulting to the people that work for McDonalds.

No, it's insulting to the people who give them insulting jobs, and it's the McExploiters who are complaining, not their victims.

Sample Question: Why is coca-cola nutritious?
Answer: Because it is "providing water, and I think that is part of a balanced diet".
(David Green, Senior-Vice President of Marketing, McDonald's USA.

You couldn't make it up.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Amos
Date: 24 May 07 - 10:12 AM

Storm in a tea cup. The prefix, of course, means "son of", and they can Mcbitch all they want.

And if they hadn't set the gold standard for making cheap, high-volume, dubious-quality products, they wouldn't have been borrowed from.

A

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:06 PM

I've also heard McMansion, for those put-together-by-kit huge houses...

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: guitar
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:26 PM

a word about their food McCrap

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:27 PM

In Juneau, Alaska, in the 'Valley' an intersection next to McDonald's is called the 'McNugget Intersection'. I don't know if it is official but it is identified that way in police reports.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: guitar
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:35 PM

a french tourist arrived in Glencoe, and asked a local if there were any McDonald's and the tourist said not any more

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:41 PM

Nonsense!
Comments here show no understanding of the service sector, or the opportunities for bright young people to advance. Only the brain-dead remain at the bottom of the pile.

A study at University College, London, shows entry level jobs have a positive impact on young people's lives. "From increased sel-esteem to being cleaner around the house, the benefits are both personal and practical. And far from being brain-dead dropouts, youngsters in the industry are on the whole happy, enthusiastic and very motivated to succeed, says author of the report, Professor Adrian Furnham."

As an example he cites Tesco chief-executive Sir Terry Leahy, who started stacking shelves at a local branch of the supermarket chain.

Of the 500,000 employed by McDonald's, the cream will rise to responsible positions, either with McDonald's or with another employer.

McDonald's should be supported in their complaint by all service industry companies.

Suggested reading-
"The flip side of a McJob," Denise Winterman, BBC News Magazine.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5052020.stm
Flip Side

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Peace
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:50 PM

McDonald's is not the arbiter of the English language. Soon I don't doubt we'll be having people with the name Quisling demanding that it be removed from the dictionary as another word for traitor. Sorry, but on this issue McDonald's should fuck right off.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Gurney
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:06 PM

Thread drift:
Radio report this morning (Radio New Zealand) about people who preserve McDonalds burgers, for reasons best known to themselves. Although one was a school science project.

The burgers are put in a self-sealing food container and kept without refrigeration.

The science project is seven years old, and reports of a burger over 20 years old were mentioned. It was said that they look not more than a few days old.
Food for thought. Sterile, or preserved to the Nth degree?

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:09 PM

I'd never heard this word until now. I have to thank McDonalds for enlghtening me!

Of course the OED have a duty to include all words, particularly those that are in current useage. And seeing as McDonalds used the word...

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:10 PM

Does anybody plan to try one?

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:11 PM

My last post was in response to Gurney's thread drift!

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 May 07 - 05:14 PM

Cuckoo, cuckoo.

And Q? Sieg Heil.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 24 May 07 - 06:00 PM

The notion that McDonald's employees may rise to great heights in the company is absurd.
First of all, they are underpaid and only those who have the economic advantages may rise in the company. The idea that there is a level playing field for people entering the service industry is pure propaganda spouted by corporate shills.

I think that MacDonalds is the purveyor of unhealthy food and the power brokers who run the enterprise refer to the obese patrons as "heavy users". They should have a new motto,
"If you want to die young, eat at MacDonald's".

I call it MacPoison.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 May 07 - 06:00 PM

Must be one of those obsolete union men.
Shall we hear a chorus of Solidarity Forever?

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 11:05 AM

McCano of Glasgow - scaffolding specialists!

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Bee
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 11:24 AM

I think they should cease whining. Sure, a job at McDonalds, or any job at all, for that matter, is good for a young person to have, but young people generally understand that their first jobs, pre-higher-education are not likely the most desireable financially or particularly brain stimulating.

They should be happy with the fantastic name recognition they have, where calling something a Mc-whatever is instantly understood.

And there are big companies out there who treat young, low paid workers a lot better than McDonalds does. One national grocer here is particularly strong on supporting young employees from high school through college: they will hold their jobs for them as a policy. Once you start working there, you are guaranteed to get back on on breaks and vacations, and they are very flexible about hours. They also pay better than McDs, and move the young'uns around the different departments to expand their experience as well.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 03:17 PM

Lots of jobs pay minimum (or miniMAL) wages in exchange for less-than-challenging duties. When filled by young people, such positions are an opportunity to learn what it is to work, and (ideally) to develop the skills and attitudes necessary to advance into better jobs, either with the same employer or elsewhere.

When adults with real financial responsibilities have to take such jobs, it's a real shame. But for teenagers still living with their folks, they're OK.

Are we supposed to pretend that such entry-level jobs are especially desirable?

As the world's most visible employer of unskilled labor, McD's should be pleased at their entry into the English language. If they can't take a joke, f*** 'em!

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 06:29 PM

Gotta tell you that when I do go to eat at McDonald's I will not under any circumstance order a Mc ANYthing. If I want a triple-decker hamburger I will damned well ask for one. And they do give me what I request.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: GUEST,jimmy
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 08:56 PM

The issue here is not entry level jobs - the issue is the way McD have treated their employees for years and the way they still treat people now. Do you ever get ex employees comming on here sticking up for them - no - They have earned this bad reputation.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Jan 08 - 12:09 AM

McWallyWorld

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Jan 08 - 10:51 PM

"the cream will rise to responsible positions"

I have many years experience of Management - mostly from 'underneath'. Trust me - not ONLY cream rises to the top in the Real World - and cream is usually least found the higher one goes...

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 12:28 AM

MORE ENTRIES FOR THE MCDICTIONARY

McBelieve: Content of a McD press release.

McHanic: A McWorker who specializes in replacing random auto parts with new ones until he stumbles on the one that caused the problem.

McOver: Popular topic of cable-TV programs.

McRaker: A journalist who exposes McD's shortcomings.

McRocephalic: The ideal McWorker.

McRophone: The thing that the McWorker speaks into.

McRowave: Where the McWorker cooks his own lunch.

McWhoopee: The cheapest form of recreation; the only kind a McWorker can afford.

McOut: What teenage McWorkers do when they can't find a place to McWhoopee.

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 01:19 AM

the cream will rise ... ... ?????

But so will the scum.

Based on what my kids have told me, both of whom have worked at McD's briefly, the preference there for promotions ain't the sweet stuff.

Tall counts, but the main qualifications are "blind obedience" and inflexible adherence to the "party line" - sort of like in politics, with le$$er reward$.

John

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: GUEST,Larry
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 11:22 PM

I once worked as an IT contractor at McDonald's HQ in Oakbrook, Illinois. The place was almost entirely run by really pushy, bitchy women managers.
The only good thing about the place was that their restaurant on the ground floor sold BEER!
Otherwise, working there was a miserable experience.
On the other hand, the BEST manager I have ever worked for was also a woman at a major insurance corporation in Chicago.
And don't let me get started on Burger U. (McD's management training University? - also in Oakbrook.)

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: GUEST,pattyClink
Date: 14 Jan 08 - 09:33 PM

Frank, what exactly are the barriers to people rising in the fast food industry. My impression is it is one of the more open industries for people working their way up. What am I missing?

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Jan 08 - 09:48 PM

"what exactly are the barriers to people rising"


Number of low level positions = N
Number of high level positions = X
Chance of a low level employee being able to occupy a high level position = N/X, where N >> X...

depends on the chances of some of the X leaving, thereby making vacancies, too.... :-)

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Rog Peek
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 05:58 PM

Eanjay, I think you will find that once a word is put into the Oxford English Dictionary (unabridged), it is there forever.

Besides, to remove a word from the Oxford English Dictionary, or not to include one which is in common usage, because it offends someone would, in my view, set a very unfortunate precedent.

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: McDictionary?
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 06:25 PM

Howz 'bout "McThis"???