BS: Bush administration hardball

Subject: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: 282RA
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 09:47 PM

I was watching 60 Minutes earlier and they did a piece on Joseph Darby, the guy who blew the whistle on the abuses at Abu Ghraib. I wasn't sure how his name became public. I had always thought he just stepped forward and that was that.

Not that way at all. He was still stationed at the prison and was told he would remain anonymous so he wouldn't get killed when who other than Donald Rumsfeld outted Darby on national television--international television actually. Sitting before Congress, Rumsfeld thanked Darby by name for courageously coming forward about the abuses.

Darby said he was eating in the mess where there was a TV playing and there he heard Rumsfeld say his name in front of the whole world. Now, how could Rumsfeld NOT know that Darby was still stationed at Abu Ghraib and required anonymity????

Rumsfeld deliberately outted the guy!!! He was letting everybody that worked at Abu Ghraib who the snitch was. Darby said that for the next month, he slept with a cocked pistol under his pillow with his hand around the grip. He was afraid he might get his throat slit in the middle of the night.

Once again the Bush administration outted someone to get back at them. We already know about Valerie Plame.

As a result of being outted, Darby could not return to his hometown Bloodthirstyredneckmoron, North Carolina. Okay, that's not the name of his town but it might as well be. Darby would likely be killed if he returned home. Virtually everybody there regards him as traitor although if he was, the Army would have tried him rather than the assholes he turned in. But North Carolinians are no more known for their intellect than they are their tolerance and compassion for others.

Yet, nobody seemed to have much to say about what Rumsfeld did. He tried to get Darby killed by outting him. That sonofabitch belongs in prison.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 10:08 PM

Sergeant Joseph Darby (born c. 1979), of Corriganville, Maryland, is a discharged member of the United States military police who first alerted the U.S. military command... (etc.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Darby

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 10:16 PM

Yessiree, that'll really encourage others to tell the truth. Whistleblowers are sure to feel that they are appreciated, especially by so-called christians (note the small "c").

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 10:18 PM

Interestingly, Corrigansville is only about forty minutes away (by car) from the town where Lynndie England is from, Fort Ashby, West Virginia. The response of the people in Corrigansville was probably colored to some extent by that fact, although they would probably not have been very pleased with him even if that weren't the case. I used to live about two miles outside of Fort Ashby, and I've spent a fair bit of time in the Cumberland area (just south of Corrigansville), and the people there are pretty far to the right for the most part.

North Carolina, by the way, has quite a lot of very intelligent people. I live there now, and I know from first hand experience.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: Barry Finn
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 10:35 PM

The wrong guy is wearing the target! Rummey the coward should have a red ball stuck up his ass & tried for attempted murder. Unless there's someone out ther with decent aim that want's to save the nation from more shame.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 12:20 AM

This thread is not posting, for me. I'll try again.

"But North Carolinians are no more known for their intellect than they are their tolerance and compassion for others."

You're on a roll today, aren't you, 2?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 12:57 AM

On the subject of the tolerance and compassion of North Carolinians - our neighborhood is mostly people who were born and raised here in North Carolina, and we find them to be as tolerant and compassionate as any people we've ever met, and more so than many. We're the minority in our neighborhood of mostly African Americans (we're a European-American and a European-Canadian). We've experienced no intolerance at all, and our neighbors have been nothing but kind, compassionate, and very welcoming.


Broad brushes, 282RA. Know what I'm saying? Or maybe I'm suggesting you consider trying a little more tolerance and compassion for others.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: 282RA
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 12:59 AM

You have to wonder how the media seem to miss these things. Why has no big deal been made of what Rumsfeld did? Shouldn't some hard-boiled reporter go digging on that one? It's a big, fat, juicy one waiting to be picked and they're ignoring it like it isn't there.

Here they are trying to get a no-confidence vote for Gonzalez when they should be looking at charging some people in the administration. But they won't because Congress doesn't have the guts to go after the former secretary of defense AND the vice president over blowing people's cover as retaliation and unofficial policy because both these chunks of Bush bowel movement would go to prison. That scares Congress because then they'd have to oversee the war and god knows they don't want to do that. They'll fund it but they sure don't wanna inherit it!

Blatant lawbreaking with virtual impunity. We just stand there and watch them do it and we say nothing.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: 282RA
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 01:12 AM

>>On the subject of the tolerance and compassion of North Carolinians - our neighborhood is mostly people who were born and raised here in North Carolina, and we find them to be as tolerant and compassionate as any people we've ever met, and more so than many. We're the minority in our neighborhood of mostly African Americans (we're a European-American and a European-Canadian). We've experienced no intolerance at all, and our neighbors have been nothing but kind, compassionate, and very welcoming.<<

I wasn't talking about the black people of that state who are indeed very fine people as they are in South Carolina. You know what people I'm talking about. Jesse Helms didn't get sent to Congress like the thing that wouldn't die because of their votes. Eric Rudolph didn't flee there because he loved the wonderful black folks. They don't key the door of your rental car and then don't have the courage to admit it.

>>Broad brushes, 282RA. Know what I'm saying?<<

They're not all that broad. You deliberately skirted the issue of what I was talking about because I'm certain nobody here thought my dislike for North Carolina had anything to do with the black people living there.

>>Or maybe I'm suggesting you consider trying a little more tolerance and compassion for others.<<

Yeah, I'm sorry I passed all those Lynch Laws. Just couldn't help myself.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 01:27 AM

Are you saying that Black people don't qualify as fully fledged North Carolinians, 282RA? Because that sure looks like what you're saying. There's plenty of racists in this state, but there's also a hell of a lot of people who aren't racists. You only divert the legitimate attention away your very valid point about Rumsfeld when you make a comment like that one. Especially considering the fact that you don't seem to know very much about North Carolina.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush administration hardball
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 02:27 AM

I have family there, 282. They are fine, compassionate and tolerant people. And they aren't Black.