BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa

Subject: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 12:23 PM

Currently in Google News -

Iraq has 162,115 hits

Iran - has 48,792 hits

Israel - has 52,696 hits

Iowa - has 43,608 hits

There's no relaxing in the tub in the evening with the radio on--it's all news of Dubya's stupid war. Or of the politics in high gear as people fight to replace him to try to clean up his mess. And of the stuff going on in the rest of the world that he is just making worse.

I can hardly stand to listen to the "news" any more--it's all "same old, same old."

Just venting.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 12:35 PM

So don't listen to it. I think that mental health goes up as addiction to listening to the daily news reports goes down. All you really need to do is read the paper once daily or check the net if you don't want to miss some important event.

It's a specially bad idea to listen to all the troubles in the world first thing in the morning on the radio right after you get up. It helps mess up your head for the rest of your day to no good purpose whatsoever. And don't forget...they don't tell you the news to inform you. Uh-uh.

They tell you the news to:

1. Get you to buy stuff in the ads that come before, during, and after the news.
2. Manipulate you into supporting some ongoing or upcoming government policies, domestic or foreign.
3. Entertain you and keep you distracted from areas of your life where you might actually become self-empowered.

All this is well set out in Orwell's 1984. The news, as it exists today, is primarily a tool of mass public conditioning, intended to manufacture passive consent to the status quo.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: pdq
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 12:50 PM

The constant drone of negativity coming from National Public Radio is enough to cause clinical depression.

Turn it off and listen something with a banjo.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 12:56 PM

"Give me the good news, even up the score,
give me the good news, no pestilence and war;
and if the good news that there are do not suffice,
just give me what good news you have and fill the rest with lies."

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: pdq
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 12:58 PM

Not all good new is 'lies' and not all bad news is 'truth'.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 01:01 PM

Never said different, pdq.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 01:15 PM

Don't drop the radio into the tub, we already have enough bad news going round.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 01:38 PM

I use a battery radio in there. And I should have concluded that post with the remark that I don't listen to the news much at all now. Mostly classical radio and personal CDs. Because any time I approach the radio I have a small bet with myself that it will be discussing one of those subjects. If it is, I turn it off again and listen to something else.

There's so much in the world that is remarkable, but the stupidity of this administration has a huge dampening effect on everything.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Joe_F
Date: 21 Jul 07 - 09:30 PM

Ireland gets 42,115.
Iceland gets 352.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:03 AM

Ipanema 6,410,000

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,ifor
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:26 AM

I is also for innocent and hundreds of thousands of innocent people have died since Iraq was invaded some four years ago.Four million Iraqis have become refugees and millions of Iraqi children are malnourished.The whole country has been driven into a state of barbarity since Bush and Blair launched Shock And Awe.
I also stands for impenitent and both Bush and Blair should be in the dock for their war crimes...
ifor

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 01:12 AM

... funny how Insignificant Little Fascist Johny is, isn't it?

:-P

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 02:10 AM

Idiot = Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 10:54 AM

Guess who wrote this:

We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenced dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability.







Answer: George H.W. Bush, former president and father of the current pres in his book "A World Transformed," Knopf, 1998.

So a person can be a Republican and still make sense. I'm surprised.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 11:39 AM

Don't be. There's nothing wrong with being a Republican, and there are a lot of great examples from over the years. (Who would have thought that Goldwater would look so good these days?) The current NeoCon and Right-wing Right-To-Life crowd have subverted/perverted the party to the current mess it is today. The word for this post is "Ilk." They've gotten bad at the top of the party. It is beginning to sound like a few of the moderate voices are trying to be heard above the din.

Used to be I'd experience disappointment when my party didn't win but knew another election could probably fix the problems; now I experience horror and wonder if we can survive this current administration. I have grave concerns that we can fix the problems and debts Dubya has saddled us with.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM

I agree.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: skipy
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 01:54 PM

"boobs" gets, 1,720,000, not to mention "tits" etc. etc.
Skipy, but you knew that!

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 04:57 PM

Schenectady gets 4,830,000!

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 05:57 PM

All prominent words beginning with "I" of course [not]. Perhaps the I is silent, as in Skipy's case "[I am a] boob. . ."

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: skipy
Date: 22 Jul 07 - 06:03 PM

No, I am a pair!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Cluin
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 01:28 AM

"Hope" gets 211,174

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:15 AM

the gets 4,910,000,000

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: skipy
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 06:58 AM

I   gets 3,700,000,000!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: John Hardly
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 08:12 AM

iMac
iPod
iTunes
iGlasses
iTinerary
iVan the TerriBle
iWant more Maypo, please
iVant to suck your blood
No man is an iSland
iDa Rose, i'M home again Rose, without a sweetheart to mi name
iDa Red
iDaho Potato
i liKe iKe

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: cookster
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 08:45 AM

Idaho!!

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: John Hardly
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:13 AM

"Idaho!!"

I just want you to know that your profession does not matter in the least to me.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:50 AM

Wait until next March and Iowa will no longer matter to anyone outside the borders. I think I prefer it that way.


So are all those other numbers from google news or just plain google? I could check myself but don't really care that much.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM

Google News.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 11:56 AM

I know you got your numbers from google news, SRS, I was wondering about the numbers other folks posted. I think they came mostly (or entirely) from regular old google, they seem high for google news. I'm guessing folks skipped over the 'news' part of your initial post.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 11:58 AM

Yeah.

Google News.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 08:55 AM

Iran: Uranium centrifuge goal reached 13 minutes ago



TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has reached its long-sought goal of running 3,000 centrifuges to enrich uranium for its nuclear program, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced Sunday, in a report on state media.

The U.N. Security Council had threatened a third round of sanctions against the country if it did not freeze the uranium enrichment program — which Iran maintains is for peaceful energy purposes, but the U.S. says is to hide a weapons program.

"The West thought the Iranian nation would give in after just a resolution, but now we have taken another step in the nuclear progress and launched more than 3,000 centrifuge machines, installing a new cascade every week," the state television Web site quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 11:20 AM

I heard that on NPR's Weekend Edition this morning. The folks they interviewed about it don't believe they've actually managed it. They think instead that perhaps they're trying for a bargaining chip.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 11:36 AM

This is how bad it is!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 01:10 PM

I think it is a feeling of helplessness in the face of people's inhumanity and the sad ease with which we now kill our fellow humans while dismantling good institutions and, indeed, constitutions. It's the helplessness rather than fatigue. I do wish I was 20 when it was all so certain.

Art

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Bee
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 02:06 PM

Oh, I don't know, Art: when I was twenty I thought I knew quite a lot, but managed to fall into various self propagated pits of misery one after another, from bad relationships and slum apartments to lousy jobs and unpleasant learning experiences. The grass was not greener - it just hadn't been mowed.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Sep 07 - 10:44 PM

Bee,

This post is a test to see if I actually have my cookie back after a few years of frustration!? I think I do--have it up and running again.

As far as that grass you're talking about; ya should've smoked it ;-)

Art

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 12:52 AM

Art's up and running as an official Mudcatter again! (He was experiencing "I" Incognito fatigue for all of this time.)

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 12:05 PM

"Art" on Google News came up with 87,588 hits...

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 03 Sep 07 - 02:21 PM

Isn't 'I' fatigue exactly what Bush wants? In this case, fatigue = apathy. It gets to a point where the feelings of hopelessness and despair are more than any single human can take - especially when it is obvious that the situation in Iraq is worse rather than better. I am disgusted by what has happened and is happening in Iraq. They don't even have safe drinking water. This is better than Saddam?

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 Sep 07 - 12:01 PM

'eye-wash ? ? '

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 04 Sep 07 - 12:16 PM

Idiot gets 38,500,000. Bush is mentioned three times in the first six Google sites.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 04 Sep 07 - 09:38 PM

ignoramus - 714,000
incompetent - 10,800,000 (and Bush is 5 of the top 6)

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Sep 07 - 09:47 PM

Ireland
Illinois
Indiana
Idaho
Iceland
Inuvik
Inuit
Inuksuk
Indonesia
Italy
Isle of Man

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Sep 07 - 10:58 PM

Isle of View

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 05 Sep 07 - 07:16 AM

ill-prepared 1,010,000

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Sep 07 - 02:22 PM

Israel: No broad military action in Gaza


By LAURIE COPANS, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 5, 9:11 AM ET



JERUSALEM - Israeli leaders decided Wednesday against a large-scale military response to repeated rocket fire from the Gaza Strip, but they said they would consider cutting off electricity or other vital supplies to the impoverished area if the attacks persist, meeting participants said.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert convened the gathering of his Security Cabinet, a group of top ministers and defense officials, to discuss the latest wave of rockets. Pressure has been mounting for a tough response since a rocket landed next to a crowded nursery school in the southern town of Sderot on Monday. There were no injuries.

In a statement, Olmert's office said Israel would continue its policy of pinpoint operations at destroying Palestinian rocket squads. But meeting participants said they had ruled out a broad ground offensive for the time being.

"The Cabinet decided that it will continue its intense military action against those involved in terror and launching rockets, and nobody among those responsible and their partners will be immune," the statement said.

Islamic Jihad, a radical Palestinian militant group, carried out this week's rocket fire. But in the statement, Israel said it holds Hamas, which seized control of Gaza in June, responsible for the "continuous, horrendous and indiscriminate attacks toward the Israeli civilian population."

It said Olmert has instructed military, diplomatic and legal experts to "devise a plan that will take into account all the military and civilian options to hit the services that Israel supplies to the Gaza Strip."

A number of senior officials have endorsed the idea of cutting off basic supplies to Gaza, which relies on Israel for water, power and fuel.

"I believe there is a range of steps Israel can take without creating a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, in order to send a message to Hamas and the rest of the terror groups," said Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, who left the Security Cabinet meeting to attend a news conference with the visiting Italian foreign minister.

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman, said his group is "looking with great concern at this serious and dangerous Israeli threat," which he termed "a new escalation against our people."

Despite the tough rhetoric, Israel's options could be problematic. Broad military operations in the past have failed to stop the rocket fire while causing heavy casualties on both sides. Cutting off vital supplies could cause widespread suffering and would likely bring harsh international condemnation.

Israel routinely conducts brief incursions and airstrikes in Gaza aimed at halting rocket squads. On Wednesday, Israeli tanks and bulldozers moved into the northern Gaza Strip. Later, the forces were seen bringing four launchers out of the Gaza Strip.

The pressure for tougher action has grown since Monday's rocket attack in Sderot, which landed next to the day-care center shortly after children arrived. No one was hurt, but scenes of panicked mothers racing to comfort their terrified children were repeatedly broadcast on Israeli television.

Sderot residents refused to send their children to school on Wednesday and planned a large demonstration near Olmert's office in Jerusalem to demand the government stop the rockets.

"The government should declare a state of emergency," Sderot resident Alon Davidi told Army Radio. "Gazans shouldn't be able to have normal lives until the last child in Sderot can walk peacefully and calmly in the street."

The rocket fire has persisted almost daily for six years. Although the rockets are inaccurate, they cause widespread panic in communities near Gaza and can be deadly. Twelve people have died in rocket attacks.

The rockets have perplexed the high-tech Israeli military, which has been unable to develop a way to halt the crude rockets, which lack navigation systems and are in the air for a very short time.

A diplomatic option seems unlikely since Israel does not speak to Hamas, which has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and refuses to renounce violence. Hamas grabbed control of the Gaza Strip in June in bloody fighting with forces affiliated with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party.

Abbas has since fired Hamas from the unity government, leaving Fatah in control in the West Bank and Hamas ruling the Gaza Strip. Israel and the international community have embraced Abbas' government, while isolating Gaza's rulers.

The Israeli meeting came as Tony Blair was in Jerusalem in his new role as representative of the "Quartet" of Middle East mediators.

The former British prime minister, who was meeting with Israeli and Palestinian officials, is expected to be in the area for about 10 days before reporting at the end of the month to the Quartet, which includes the U.S., Russia, the European Union and the U.N.

The Blair visit is part of a new international diplomatic push aimed at reviving peace efforts.

Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas plan to meet in the coming days before a visit to the region by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sept. 18, said Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat.

Rice is trying to push the sides into agreeing on an outline for a future peace agreement ahead of a U.S.-sponsored conference in November.

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 05:57 PM

I'll add to this list "Institutional Politics."

I'm not answering anyone's surveys any more, I've been tossing all of the glossy mail all along. The next 2 1/2 months are going to be so slow when it comes to fighting off the tide of political messages.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Peace
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 06:02 PM

"There's no relaxing in the tub in the evening with the radio on--it's all news of Dubya's stupid war."

Iowa - has 43,608 hits


Bush declared war on Iowa? WTF for?

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 09:20 PM

It was at the time of the Iowa caucus and state primaries to begin when this was started. I stumbled across it and thought I'd revive it for one more complaint.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: 'I' fatigue - Iraq, Iran, Israel, Iowa
From: Peace
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 09:28 PM

LOL