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Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners (John Warner)

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Subject: Lyr Add: BRING OUT THE BANNERS (John Warner)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:05 PM

BRING OUT THE BANNERS
(John Warner)

In a faded photo like a dream
A locomotive under steam
Rolls with the rank of marching feet
And union banners on the street.

CHORUS: Bring out those banners once again
You union women, union men,
That all around may plainly see
The power of our unity.

I've seen those banners richly made
With symbols fair of craft and trade,
The union names in red and gold
Their aspirations printed bold.

Boilermakers, smiths and cooks
Stevedores with cargo hooks
Declare their union stout and strong
Rank on rank before the throng.

They won the eight-hour working day
They won the right to honest pay
Victorious the banners shone
How dare we cede what they have won?

Today, when those who rule divide
We must be standing side by side
Our rights were bought with tears and pain
Bring out those banners once again.

Written on the 150th anniversary of Australian labour winning the eight-hour day. The tune is the hymn "See Amid the Winter's Snow", which has been the basis for "Coal, Not Dole" and "No More Fish, No Fishermen". Recorded by Danny Spooner on "Emerging Tradition"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:14 PM

Another brilliant anthem by John Warner that has been picked up here and there but deserves more use.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: SEE AMID THE WINTER'S SNOW
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:25 PM

Here's where the tune comes from:

SEE AMID THE WINTER'S SNOW

1. See amid the winter's snow,
Born for us on earth below,
See the tender Lamb appears,
Promised from eternal years.

       Chorus
       Hail, thou ever-blessed morn!
       Hail, redemption's happy dawn!
       Sing through all Jerusalem,
       Christ is born in Bethlehem.

2. Lo, within a manger lies
He who built the starry skies;
He, who throned in height sublime
Sits amid the cherubim. Chorus

3. Say, ye holy shepherds, say
What your joyful news today;
Wherefore have ye left your sheep
On the lonely mountain steep? Chorus

4. "As we watched at dead of night,
Lo, we saw a wondrous light;1
Angels singing peace on earth
Told us of the Saviour's birth". Chorus

5. Sacred infant, all divine,
What a tender love was Thine,
Thus to come from highest bliss
Down to such a world as this. Chorus

6. Teach, O teach us , Holy Child,
By Thy Face so meek and mild,
Teach us to resemble Thee,
In Thy Sweet humility! Chorus

1. Or: There appeared a wondrous light; Return

Alternate Third Verse (source lost):

    Say, you holy shepherds, say,
       Tell your joyful news today.
    Why have you now left your sheep
       On the lonely mountain steep?

Additional verse from Nicola A. Montani, ed., The St. Gregory Hymnal And Catholic Choir Book. Philadelphia: St. Gregory Guild, 1940, #5, pp. 6-7.

    Virgin Mother, Mary blest
       By the joys that fill thy breast,
    Pray for us, that we may prove
       Worthy of the Saviour's love. Chorus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 08:37 PM

Posted by Herga Kitty in 2002 in the Wild Bass Straight thread. Great song, but then I really like everything I've heard that was written by John Warner.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 03:40 AM

He's the only person I know of who has had a Tribute concert in his lifetime! It was held at the National Folk Festival in 2000.

It was arranged over many months, dozens of folk were involved, it was even listed on the program ('Tribute to a folkie' or something equally innocuous) & he had no idea it was happening. He was told he was needed to accompany a friend & it was only when he arrived at the venue & saw his name on the board that he twigged.

Those in the know went around the festival telling everyone they could who was the subject of the concert, even so some friends missed out. It was a great concert.

intro to the CD - This concert was held to acknowledge the vast contribution that John has made to the present day folk tradition. His writing ranges across all the age groups, validating cultures & chronicling people & events which might have otherwise been lost. Lyndan Blackman.

'Bring out the Banners' was one of the 19 tracks, sung by the Sydney Trade Union Choir.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 05:09 AM

G'day Dick,

You need to search ... with less than precision: the lyrics to John's beaut song were posted by back on 08 Aug 2005 - here:
RE: Lyr Req: Union Banners (John Warner). Great song ... and it really rings out in the acoustics of Sandra's Loaded Dog Folk Club ... a nice resonant 19th c. Council Chambers!

(Sandra: I greatly miss having been on the inner for that tribute concert ... I would have love to have been told about it - and to have got aphoto coverage into the [Australian] National Folk Festival official coverage!)

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:36 AM

sorry, Bob - at least you didn't cross me off your list of friends for not telling you.

I do have pictures, not professional standard, tho.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:49 AM

Then there are John's environmental songs, the songs of the endangered bunyip, or is it of the endangered humans? Only time will tell!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 10:41 AM

I apologize, not for posting the song (which IMO is a fine one), but for having missed the previous thread.


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Subject: Lyr Add: COAL NOT DOLE (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 04:43 PM

While I'm at it, here's yet another fine song, set to the same tune:

COAL NOT DOLE
(Kay Sutcliffe)

It stands so proud, the wheel so still
A ghostlike figure on the hill
It seems so strange there is no sound
Now there are no men underground
   What will become of this pit-yard
   Where men once trampled, faces hard
   Tired and weary, their shift done
   Never having seen the sun

Will it become a sacred ground
Foreign tourists gazing round?
Asking if there once worked here
Way beneath the pit-head gear
   Empty trucks once filled with coal
   Lined up like old men on the dole
   Will they ever he used again
   Or left for scrap just like the men?

There'll always be a happy hour
For those with money, jobs and power
They'll never realise the hurt
They cause to men they treat like dirt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Stewie
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 09:06 PM

Coope, Boyes and Simpson recorded 'Coal Not Dole' on their excellent 'Funny Old World' album [No Masters NMCD3 segued with 'Remembrance Day 1992' by John Tams/William Horsely.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 06:38 PM

Some great songs usibng hynmn tunes, Sometimes of course te tunes qwere folk songs before they became hymn tunes. (And maybe they were hymn tunes before then...)

Fopr exaMPLE


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Rowan
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 07:06 PM

And, as part of the current "Your Rights At Work" campaign, there's a recent addition as a penultimate verse.

Not all of us now ply a trade
but with our work your life is made;
nurses, teachers, admin staff,
we must unite or do it tough.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Rowan
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 07:32 PM

The "Written on the 150th anniversary of Australian labour winning the eight-hour day." comment on John's song has particular interest for me as that campaign started with actions by the bricklayers and stonemasons who, in 1856, built the first building of Melbourne University. These days it's the Law Quadrangle although it has held administrative offices and various other things; because of its mock Tudor arches it is regularly used as a backdrop on telly.

At the time, the unionists campaigned for an 8 hour day and the university, backed by the govt., resisted tooth and nail. After quite a long campaign the unionists won and the university has never forgiven the working class. Not one public holiday with working class origins was recognised by Melbourne Uni in all the time I was there.

The Victorian Eight Hour Day (often called "Labour Day") is the second Monday in March and most Melbournians regard it as the day of the Moomba Parade. Melbourne Uni always started its First Term lectures on that day. Peoples' Day at the Royal Melbourne Show (usually called "Show Day") is the third Thursday in September and is a public holiday for everyone in Melbourne except Melbourne Uni, where it's "lectures as usual". The first Tuesday in November is known, even internationally, as Melbourne Cup Day and the public holiday is widely acknowledged even outside Victoria. Melbourne Uni routinely held (and may still hold) exams on that day. While it may be a bit of a long bow to describe Anzac Day in such terms, Melbourne Uni didn't even publicly observe it until conscription (for the Australian involvement in Vietnam) started biting the mass of its students. Of course, Melbourne Uni has always acknowledged Australia Day (previously celebrated as ANA Day) Queen's Birthday as public holidays; they were acceptable to the elites.

So, while the comment describing John's song as celebrating the 150th aniiversary might be correct in a national context, some of us have particular cause to celebrate all the steps along the path.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 07:54 PM

The first Tuesday in November is known, even internationally, as Melbourne Cup Day and the public holiday is widely acknowledged even outside Victoria. Melbourne Uni routinely held (and may still hold) exams on that day
.........................

egads! as a person totally uninterested in this race (I used to take over a phone shift for colleagues who wanted to watch the race with the rest of the office) I am amazed at the way an organisation can ignore this important day. And the others, too. Did the uni pay it's working staff Holiday penalty rates? Did their deeply-held principles cost them money?

seriously, 150 years is a long time to hold a grudge. How do they keep it going? It's not like a family that can indoctrinate their youngsters to hold a belief that their great-great-great (etc) granddad held.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 08:55 PM

The tune, "Humility," is here (click) at Cyberhymnal.org.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Bring Out the Banners
From: Rowan
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 09:39 PM

To try and answer your question, Sandra, Melbourne Uni is only three years younger than Sydney Uni and both are significantly older than the subsequents one. MU was the only uni (and colloquially known as "The Shop", coz that's where you bought your meal ticket) in Victoria until Monash started in 1961 and La Trobe in 1967 and was very conservatively traditional even in the late 50s, despite the influx of returned services CRTS students. There were lots in the hierarchy who, while they might have critiqued the wider society and possibly the minutiae politics of their own disciplines, never really questioned these aspects of 'the established order'. In recent times of Enterprise Bargaining and the even more recent HEWRRS ("WorkChoice" legislation applied to universities, which I interpret as the Higher Education Workers' Rights Removal Scheme) things may have changed. But I doubt it.

Cheers, Rowan


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