BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:39 AM

So have the people of Idaho.

"We cheered when Larry was quitting,
Our faith in the system restored.
And we cussed when he said he was staying
We wanted him out the door...."

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: heric
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:59 PM

A few months ago I heard a transcript being read on the radio of some guy's account of his night at Craig's house. Unbelievable. Apparently there were five or so others who came forward to tell their tales. Must be on the web somewhere but I've had enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:49 PM

Well, it will be interesting to see if he tries to use it, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 02:58 PM

Craig pled guilty. The other guy went for a jury trial.

Two different things.

And the people out feel that if Craig wasn't guilty he should have said so and let it go to trial -- not try for an ex post facto change.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 01:29 PM

I wonder if there's any way that other guy's case will help Craig?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM

Craig's problem is that he pled guilty, then tried to back up and have a "do over." AND he's financed his appeal with $213,000 from his "re-election campaign chest" (for which he's been duly smacked on the hand by the Senate Ethics Committee.

Believe me (and I live here) -- Craig has no more political future in Idaho than Jane Fonda would have.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 08:18 AM

There's been a new development. From the [St. Paul] Pioneer Press:

Man arrested in airport sex sting goes to trial, is acquitted

A jury Friday acquitted a Minneapolis man arrested in the same airport bathroom sex-sting operation that snared U.S. Sen. Larry Craig.

Vince Tuzon, 39, of Minneapolis, claimed he couldn't be guilty of interfering with the undercover officer's privacy because the officer is the one who invited the invasion with foot-tapping. That is an argument Craig has raised in trying to withdraw his guilty plea.

In Tuzon's case, a Hennepin County jury agreed. (more)

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 07:39 AM

I wonder how he's treated by his collegues in the Senate?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 04:10 PM

They're either a politician avoiding the "wide stance" made famous by Larry Craig or have an urgent need.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 03:56 PM

So, let me see if I've got this right: if I go to Idaho, and see somebody walking around with their legs crossed, it will tell me that that person is a politician, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 02:49 PM

Did you know that almost all politicians in Idaho are now walking around with their legs crossed?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 01:51 PM

Larry Craig staying in the Neeews....


Larry Craig attempts to shake hands with Dick Cheney who audibly exclaimed Ewww.



Larry Craig arrested by TSA for showing his wedding reing palm up to a male TSA security guard who was inspecting his shoes.

He plead guilty.



Larry Craig arrested at petting farm for tapping his foot next to a cow in its stall.

He pleads guilty AGAIN.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 10:15 PM

"If you go by HBO's "Rome," just about everybody was more or less bi, so it didn't much matter."

             Of course, Ahmedinajad tells us that there is no such behavior in Iraq, so it wouldn't pay to film it there.

             Or maybe the Republicans will want to give Craig an ambassidorship to Iran. Maybe that would get rid of him.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Midchuck
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 02:12 PM

Video tapes I've seen of bath houses in San Francisco looked pretty much like the bath houses in the movies about ancient Rome. The difference was, most of the SF players were gay.

They might have been in Rome as well, but they weren't in the movies.

If you go by HBO's "Rome," just about everybody was more or less bi, so it didn't much matter.

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 02:03 PM

Video tapes I've seen of bath houses in San Francisco looked pretty much like the bath houses in the movies about ancient Rome. The difference was, most of the SF players were gay.

             They might have been in Rome as well, but they weren't in the movies.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 02:46 AM

The interview he did on the Today Show this morning was shown on NBC tonight. I watched part of it from time to time. Liked his wife. Couldn't figure out whether to believe him but wasn't quite interested enough to think about it at any length.

As someone remarked above, the truth of it doesn't really matter. I agree that if my child were to walk in on something going on in a public place I'd have blood in my eye. Maybe they should have post signs so those not so inclined could stay away.

By the way, what is a 'bath house'? The phrase didn't come up in this context, of course, but I have sometimes wondered. I know that Barry Manilow has sung in them for a long time as has Bette Midler- but just what is it?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:33 PM

"Most Idahoans think he should just get over it and go quietly into the night."


             He won't, of course. There's health care coverage to worry about, and his pension... All of the things that Republicans don't think ordinary folks should have.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 09:15 AM

In the local paper's on-line "poll" the question was "Should Larry Craig resign?"

Last I saw the response was 317 yes, 44 no.

Richard Stallings, a city councilman, a nice guy, and the head of the Democratic Party in Idaho, wrote in Sunday's paper that he's tired of Craig making Idaho a national joke and that the Republicans aren't doing themselves any favors by continuing to support him -- and Stallings is correct. (Democrats in Idaho would be labeled "really conservative" anywhere else in the country.)

Most Idahoans think he should just get over it and go quietly into the night.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 03:28 PM

Interesting that he has been inducted into the Idaho Hall of Fame. Is he your best claim to fame, Rapaire? :)

(In actuality, the induction was in the pipeline before Craig's enthusiasm for public restrooms became known.)

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 02:15 PM

He's appealed the ruling, so the issue will definately be in play during the 2008 presidential race.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: heric
Date: 06 Oct 07 - 07:48 PM

He could have gone out as the King of Comedy if he'd just put chocolate on his hand and asked to borrow some paper.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Stringsinger
Date: 06 Oct 07 - 06:41 PM

This GOP tune is a real toe-tapper.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Oct 07 - 08:52 AM

Or I could simply donate it to the Democratic Party in Idaho, just to stir things up a bit. They could put it up in their Capitol caucus room...or give it to the Republicans in a big public show...or sell it to raise campaign funds...or....

(I'm pretty independent politically. I just like to keep the pot stirred up.)

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Oct 07 - 08:15 AM

Actually, he's proven himself to be pretty durable through this whole thing. I think he ought to chang his name to "Rocky."

                  Rocky Craig - It's got kind of a rign to it, don't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Greg B
Date: 05 Oct 07 - 11:14 AM

To the verse of "Johnson Boys":

Senator Craig he went to the men room
Dropped his pants and took a seat
Who would have guessed the trouble he'd find there?
Didn't know where to put his feet!

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Oct 07 - 06:54 AM

Rap - That's a great idea. I wonder if they'd sell it. I suspect it would mean a lot to the people of Idaho.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 09:03 PM

I would like to buy the stall at the Minneapolis Airport which he occupied. I'd donate it to the Idaho Historical Society.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 07:57 PM

"At the start of Reagan's second term I said on TV that it was clear to me that Reagan had a neurological condition."


            After that fund raiser in Japan he started to embarrass people, so they just turned off his teleprompter and he went blank. I think he was an empty vacuum tube the whole 8 years he spent in Washington.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: heric
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 07:33 PM

He was a prime mover and shaker behind that bill to enhance timber cuts by calling it Fire Protection. He actually bragged about that during the restroom scandal, as if it were a highlight.

Restroom scandal. What an exit.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 06:51 PM

I was under the impression he'd already been removed or resigned from those committees. I know that his NOT being on the committee that deals with salmon and their spawning has been popular in Idaho....

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Alba
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 04:38 PM

From the New York Times:

" Updated: 4 p.m.Senator Larry Craig has just issued a statement saying that he will stay in the Senate through his term, reversing his earlier willingness to resign in the wake of an airport-restroom scandal."
Here's his statement:
"I am extremely disappointed with the ruling issued today. I am innocent of the charges against me. I continue to work with my legal team to explore my additional legal options.
"I will continue to serve Idaho in the United States Senate, and there are several reasons for that. As I continued to work for Idaho over the past three weeks here in the Senate, I have seen that it is possible for me to work here effectively.
"Over the course of my three terms in the Senate and five terms in the House, I have accumulated seniority and important committee assignments that are valuable to Idaho, not the least of which are my seats on the Appropriations Committee, the Energy and Natural Resources Committee and the Veterans' Affairs Committee. A replacement would be highly unlikely to obtain these posts.
"In addition, I will continue my effort to clear my name in the Senate Ethics Committee - something that is not possible if I am not serving in the Senate.
"When my term has expired, I will retire and not seek reelection. I hope this provides the certainty Idaho needs and deserves."

Subject: Senator Pete Domenici R.MX- lewd criminal conduct
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 04:02 PM

Pete is resigning. He was caught pressuring US attorneys in support of a Rove election fixing campaign and could face criminal charges.

BUT he claims he is resigning due to a rare nervous system degenerative disease that causes bouts of poor decisions, rude conduct and bizarre behavior.

After 4 terms I thought he could have fallen on a sword less painful than a brain disorder. You know, something like wanting to spend more time with his dog etc.

At the start of Reagan's second term I said on TV that it was clear to me that Reagan had a neurological condition.

Will a doctor ever come forward to verify Pete's condition? Probably not.

happy trails in the heat Pete.
Try not to be so scary Larry.
I hope you find no solice Gonzales.
Far may you rome Rove
Go fuck yourself Cheney

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 03:44 PM

Well, Idaho will have a new Senator. Idaho was going to have one anyway, since Craig's dead to the voters -- not for being gay, but for being stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Oct 07 - 02:41 PM

Larry Craig's quest to decimate the salmon in Idaho hit another snag today when the judge refused to allow him to change his plea on lewd conduct charges.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:44 AM

"Yes, Mom. I broke the vase."

"Well, son, you're grounded. But since you were honest it's only for a week."

"Thanks. I'm glad to get that over with."

Later....

"Mom, they want me off the Little League team because I broke the vase.    Now I admit I didn't do it, and I've hired the same lawyer who's defending Michael Vick to prove it."

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 11:41 PM

Ring, ring, ring, ring...

             "Hello, Herb's delicatessen..."

             "Hi, say, do you have Prince Albert in the can?"

             "Yeah, he's in there with Larry Craig."

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 08:19 PM

Ol' Larry, according to the local newspaper, filed papers today withdrawing his guilty plea.

I was in the men's room at the retirement community where my mother-in-law lives and some guy in the next stall kept tapping my foot with his cane. When I asked what he wanted he said, "Got any Viagra over there?"

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 05:47 PM

On one point you can be certain. I'm not a US Senator.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduc
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 05:47 PM

Clinton? Bloody fool.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 04:44 PM

I suspect that you have used an airport men's room, but I have no idea whether you are a wide stance man or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 01:53 PM

Anything that embarrasses a United States Senator is news, whether you voted for him or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 01:00 PM

Two thing {as I see it}

Talking about what Clinton did many years ago is typical bait and switch. And it's counterproductive. It's over.

Senator Larry Craigs behavior is none of our business unless we voted for him. Talking about it is also counterproductive. And - who really cares?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)-lewd conduct
From: Genie
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 11:33 AM

I don't think there's much danger of Clinton being whitewashed.   In a number of respects, he probably should/would have been remembered as one our best presidents (say, in the top 10 or 12), but due to the Republican Congress's incessant, relentless "investigations" and the partisan-motivated impeachment, probably every positive accomplishment of his administration will forever be upstaged by mentions of Monica and the impeachment.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Peace
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 09:52 AM

I don't think it's good to whitewash Craig. Neither is it good to whitewash Clinton.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 08:40 AM

And now he's trying to get his guilty plea overturned.

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 11:08 AM

Genie - You're right. Where was Larry Craig while the thing in Rwanda was going on?

                        Maybe in a toilet stall in the airport in Minniapplous?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Genie
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 04:15 AM

Wow! From just plain creep to severe thread creep?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 11:43 PM

On the other hand, what could he do?

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Peace
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 05:13 PM

Not quite.

"Classified papers show Clinton was aware of 'final solution' to eliminate Tutsis

Rory Carroll in Johannesburg
Wednesday March 31, 2004
The Guardian


President Bill Clinton's administration knew Rwanda was being engulfed by genocide in April 1994 but buried the information to justify its inaction, according to classified documents made available for the first time."

Subject: RE: BS: Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho)- lewd conduct
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 05:07 PM

that's "oval orfice"...code name "Monica"

and to agree with Ebbie from yesterday...I, too, was appalled at Clinton being so foolish as to engage in such stuff in the 'office'...it showed a sad side of an otherwise clever man. Unfortunately, that will be remembered far better than his astute analysis of foreign policy.