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Bob the Postman 09 Nov 07 - 09:29 PM
bankley 10 Nov 07 - 09:21 AM
Bob the Postman 10 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM
Gorgeous Gary 10 Nov 07 - 12:23 PM
C. Ham 10 Nov 07 - 12:38 PM
Bob the Postman 10 Nov 07 - 12:53 PM
GUEST 10 Nov 07 - 03:46 PM
Sandy Mc Lean 10 Nov 07 - 04:03 PM
gnu 10 Nov 07 - 04:55 PM
number 6 10 Nov 07 - 05:12 PM
black walnut 11 Nov 07 - 09:25 AM
Mooh 11 Nov 07 - 10:21 AM
Becca72 14 Nov 07 - 06:47 PM
GUEST,petr 14 Nov 07 - 07:48 PM
bobad 19 Nov 07 - 09:45 PM
Little Hawk 19 Nov 07 - 09:51 PM
bobad 19 Nov 07 - 10:06 PM
Stilly River Sage 19 Nov 07 - 10:31 PM
Little Hawk 19 Nov 07 - 10:40 PM
bobad 19 Nov 07 - 10:52 PM
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Metchosin 20 Nov 07 - 01:01 AM
Little Hawk 20 Nov 07 - 02:16 AM
GUEST,HiLo 26 Nov 07 - 11:33 AM
Little Hawk 26 Nov 07 - 12:12 PM
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CET 26 Nov 07 - 09:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 09:29 PM

Oh yeah, and "Hymn Sing"--Grandma's favorite show, after Don Messer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bankley
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 09:21 AM

what about that music show out of Winnepeg that had Lenny Breau as a house guitarist. Holy harmonicks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM

That'd be the Wednesday edition of "Music Hop", I think.

I heard the following anecdote, or something like it, on a radio documentary about Breau. One Wednesday, after he'd had the gig for a couple of years, he failed to turn up at the studio. The producer phoned him at home.

Producer: Lenny, where the hell are you?
Lenny (puzzled): I'm right here, man, like, at home.
Producer: It's Wednesday afternoon, Lenny.
Lenny: Check it out. Cool.
Producer: Lenny, what have we been doing every Wednesday afternoon for the past two years?
Lenny (thinking hard): I don't know, man.
Producer: Lenny, we're live on air with Music Hop in 25 minutes.
Lenny: Far out. Should I call a cab?
Producer: Yes, Lenny.
Lenny: Only thing is, I don't have the fare.


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From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 12:23 PM

This is probably a bit off topic, but is anyone out there watching "Blood Ties" the series based on Canadian science fiction/fantasy author Tanya Huff's series of novels? It's currently running late Friday nights on Lifetime down here, and I forget whose running them up there. Mainly curious since we're friends of Tanya's (as well as fans of the books and the show).

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: C. Ham
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 12:38 PM

Bankley said:

what about that music show out of Winnepeg that had Lenny Breau as a house guitarist. Holy harmonicks!

Then Bob the Postman responded:

That'd be the Wednesday edition of "Music Hop", I think.

Lenny Breau's band didn't last very long as the house band on the Winnipeg edition of "Music Hop." They were dumped early on and replaced by the Guess Who.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 12:53 PM

Replaced by the Guess Who, with Randy Bachman on guitar. According to the infallible on-line resource Wikipedia, the teenage Bachman was mentored by Breau during the late 50s.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:46 PM

Elwood Glovers Lunchon Date (with Sonny Cawfield)
The Trouble with Tracy
This hour has 7 days
Romper Room

Music:
Sing Along Jublilee
The Shurgain Talent Show (PEI)
The Irish Rovers
Ryan Fancy Show
Rita MacNeil Show
Tommy Hunter
The Pig and Whistle (though, maybe British)

Cant remember the name of the Ontario Coroner's case show, before Quincy?
And, there was a late night CBC talk show, can't remember the name?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:03 PM

Wojeck was the Ontario Coroner's case show, before Quincy. I think that Quincy was based on it but Americanized.
Another more recent but great one was North of 60. The native lady who played Elsie was my favourite.
The Pig and Whistle was made in Toronto (to simulate a British pub) and The Carlton Show Band went on to national fame.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:55 PM

Lenny. He MOVED to Winnepeg. Imagine, moving to Winnepeg of your own free volition? Was it because of the unbelievable musical and artistic talent in Winnepeg or because he wanted to try to freeze to death in the largest, coldest snow banks in NA?

Look up, way up.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:12 PM

Lenny moved to Winnipeg from Maine with his parents as a young teenager.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 09:25 AM

Elwood Glover!
Romper Room!


~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 10:21 AM

...and I see Paul, and Karla...(LOL)

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Becca72
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 06:47 PM

Forgot to mention one of my favorite shows (American or otherwise), The Kids in the Hall


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:48 PM

I used to like watching the Traveling Minstrel Show when I was a kid
they used actors and simple background scenery to act out fairy tales.
There were some good stories...

I still remember the one about Jesus & St. Peter traveling the earth disguised as poor travellers. They come to a village and ask the rich lady at the first house for some food. She shoos them away..
Then they go to the poor womans house next door and she invites them in for some soup.. Now being poor she has hardly any fat to add to her soup and it is quite thin.   Jesus tells St. Peter to pay the woman - which he does by counting the circles of fat floating on the surface.
(he pays her after eating).. and giving her an equal number of coins.

The lady happens to tell this to her rich neighbour who thinks about it and invites the two men in when she sees them again.. Hoping to get the same deal with the coins - she puts in loads of fat into the soup. As it is so greasy however, St. Peter ends up giving her only one coin since there is only one fat circle covering the whole bowl.

on another note. I heard from a friend who used to work at the CBC that the old Don Messers Jubilee show which ran for many years and was cancelled at the height of its popularity by Knowlton Nash who thought it was too square.. ALl the old episodes were tossed in the bin,
except for a handful that were saved by a janitor at CBC whose wife was one of the dancers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bobad
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:45 PM

For some reason a memory of the TV show Maggie Muggins just popped into my head. Anyone remember that one? All I recall is a little, pigtailed girl and a farmer. Early TV days for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:51 PM

My parents simply hated Elwood Glover for some reason. They always referred to him sarcastically as Elwood "Glubber". I have no idea what the problem was.

They also hated Pierre Trudeau. We're talkin' vitriolic hatred. I know what the problem was there, but I don't concur with their one-dimensional view of the man...he was a hell of an interesting politician, whether or not you agreed with him about this or that issue. He had style.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bobad
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:06 PM

Did your parents hate hippies too LH ? The reason I ask is that a lot of people felt Trudeau was a little too hip for a politician, also leftist and French to boot, a mite radical for many Canadians of that era.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:31 PM

I vaguely remember Mr. Dressup and used to watch The Friendly Giant, and though I didn't watch it, I remember the Littlest Hobo. I think my mother always watched The Beachcombers.

There used to be a cop show I enjoyed, back in the mid-1980s that made it to late night cable TV here in the U.S., called Night Heat. Set in a supposed large North American city, but it (as the IMDb page says) looked like Toronto. I imagine that is where they filmed it. They always sounded very Canadian, despite a couple of more generic East Coast accents from the Boston to Brooklyn zone.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:40 PM

Well, my father was certainly somewhat prejudiced against the longhaired contingent, but my mother tended to sympathize with them.

I think they didn't like the fact that Trudeau was French (and Catholic), they figured he was selling the country out to Quebec, they detested his sophistication and his clearly strong and healthy ego (some might have called him "arrogant", and some did)...it was a whole host of things. They thought he was destroying the country.

At first I went along with them on that, but I only began to fully appreciate Trudeau when I saw the succession of other people who followed him into office! ;-) (Not counting Joe Clark...I always have liked and respected Joe Clark. I think he has always been a very decent man, if not a brilliant one. Trudeau was brilliant.) Also, Nixon referred to him once as "that asshole Trudeau". A big point in Trudeau's favour right there! ;-) Nixon, however, seems to have hated almost everyone, and he used absolutely the most filthy bad language about almost everyone too...so Trudeau was not singled out in that sense.

When asked by Canadian reporters how he felt about Nixon's comment, Trudeau smiled and said, "I've been called worse things by worse men"....now there is a brilliant and quite witty response to the press's typical attempt to raise another tempest in a teapot! ;-) Gotta love the guy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bobad
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:52 PM

Not to be pedantic LH but Trudeau's quote was actually "I've been called worse things by better people." which is a bit more telling of his opinion of Nixon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: johnross
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 11:56 PM

When it was still called "Educational TV" rather than "public television," back in the 1950s, the station in Boston used to run grainy kinescopes of The Friendly Giant from the CBC. I was probably about 10% of the total audience watching that show in Boston.

I would love to find some DVDs of Beachcomber.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Metchosin
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 01:01 AM

Oh dear, I remember Maggie Muggins, not from TV but on the radio. I vaguely recall at the end of every episode, some chirpy little thing she said like, "toora loora loora lay? but I don't know what I'll do tomorrow"


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 02:16 AM

Ha! Oh, that is GREAT, bobad! My God, the man (Trudeau) was a Master. LOL! I had a feeling I had not got that quote of his quite right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:33 AM

Does anyone recall Mr. Fix it ? Some I miss still are, Black Harbour, filmed in NS. Codco from NFLd,The Hit Parade one with Joyce Hahn and Wally Coster and sometimes Robert Goulet. Madame Benoit..It seems that we used to have a lot more Canadian content on telly back then. We must be the only nation on earth that allows our screens to have 90% forgein content.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 12:12 PM

Yes, well, we are in a vulnerable position that way because we speak English and are right next door to the biggest English language TV culture in the world...the USA.

Here's another Canadian show: Peter Gzowski had a variety show for a bit on TV, didn't he? (he was mostly known for his very popular radio show on CBC).


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST,Seiri Omaar
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 12:46 PM

Well... there's "An American in Canada" too. I never saw much of it, but I remember giggling like a maniac through the pilot. It only went 16 episodes, so says Wikipedia anyway.
Cheers, Seiri.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 01:24 PM

I loved Gzowski on the radio! When I moved away from the border that was one of the things I regretted leaving behind, the CBC radio. "As It Happens" was another one I liked.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Metchosin
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 01:29 PM

Gzowski did some late night on TV for awhile, that didn't get much of an audience, so he returned to radio. Jeez I miss that man. The current run of crap on CBC radio has me turning to NPR out of Washington State. Never thought that would ever happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 01:35 PM

Yeah, I miss him too. The CBC has been gutted of funds by a series of neo-conservative governmental policy-makers (posing as something else, of course) and it has deteriorated greatly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Metchosin
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, not surprising that they provided them with enough money to produce Afghanada though. What a simplistic, jingoistic, load of propaganda that piece of crap turned out to be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 04:57 PM

Sergeant Preston and Yukon Kong - but i think it was a US show.

I used to see Shatner hawking a Canadian supermarket chain - something about the "frontier'.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 05:03 PM

Mr Shatner...Praise His Name!...did a long series of ads for Dominion, I think...or was it Loblaws??? At any rate, they all ended with the cheerful punchline, "But by gosh...the PRICE IS RIGHT!!!"

I think perhaps he was referring to the price they paid him for doing the ads.

Needless to say, business went up by leaps and bounds at the lucky grocery chain which had the wisdom and foresight to apply the "Shatner magic".


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: number 6
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 06:28 PM

"the PRICE IS RIGHT!!!" ... well it couldn't have been Dominion as their punchline was "It's mainly because of the meat" ..... so it probably was Loblaws, or then maybe Steinbergs, or was it MiracleMart .... I dunno maybe it was ......... ?

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: CET
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 09:32 PM

Well, Charmion and I can claim to have appeared on an obscure Canadian television program. We both competed on Reach for the Top (long before we met each other). I was actually on something even more obscure. I once read A Child's Christmas in Wales on a local cable TV show in Stratford, Ontario.

Does anybody remember a series called d'Iberville, about the adventures of the Sieur d'Iberville, who caused the British no end of grief in the 17th century? It might have been a dubbed Quebec program.

As for Afghanada, Metchosin, I don't see it as a jingoistic piece of crap. The dialogue strikes me as being extremely accurate. It reminds me of a lot of soldiers I have known over the years. Perhaps anything that treats Canadian soldiers in a sympathetic manner is enough to start you gibbering with rage. My knock against that program is the blatantly PC notion of making the section commander a female. All trades are open to women in the CF nowadays, but neither the infantry nor women have changed enough to make it likely that a woman would be a sergeant in the infantry. There may be some even now, and the time may come when it won't be unusual, but it hasn't happened yet. Also, the actor who plays the part sounds about as much of a grunt as the average Muchmusic VJ.


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From: GUEST,Willie-O cookieless penniless
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:34 PM

Ahh come on Edmund, Coach just wants a drink, then another drink, and then she's going to pound yer...ya don't mess with a chick from Smithers. I gotta admit, I like Afghanada. It does a good job of conveying some of the complexities of us being there...which we are whether we like it or not. If we get out next year ( I hope), we'll still have thousands of veterans to take care of, a lot of them pretty messed up, who We sent there, so as a nation we will be coming to terms with this particular adventure for a long time yet.   

But far more germaine to the original intent of this thread, take note Number 6 and Bob:

A few years ago the Museum of Civilization in Ottawa had an exhibit of...umm, puppets I guess. All I remember is going around a corner and finding myself face to whatever with...THE ORIGINAL HOWARD THE TURTLE! I was awestruck. He's in good shape for 40-something.

Also I heard Michelle Finney on the radio awhile back. In fact she was 11 when she started on Razzle Dazzle. Now she teaches Womens' Self-Defense. There's a message in that somewhere...

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:54 PM

I found a long blog with a number of links back to various interviews Peter Gzowski did on tv and radio over the years.

http://johngushue.typepad.com/blog/daily_dot/index.html

If you search on Gzowski with the "find on this page" feature (under Edit in the drop down menu on the IE browser and I'm sure the others as well) it'll get you there most easily.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 01:31 AM

Well all I will concede is that Afghanada is a contrast to All Quiet on The Western Front. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: CET
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 04:45 PM

"Gibbering with rage" was a bit over the top, I admit. Sorry about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bobad
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 07:39 PM

Rusty and Jerome, yanked out of comfortable retirement digs, are now facing an uncertain future. Read all the sordid details here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 08:41 PM

It was Loblaw's.
Not to be confused with Topp's, the supermarket with people so you don't have to talk to yourself. Honest, that was their slogan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 08:48 PM

Re: The Friendly Giant. Trouble was - wait for it - Rusty was always half in the bag.

(ba-da-da boom!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Mooh
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 09:05 PM

bobad...Thanks for that link. I grew up on Friendly and Captain Kangaroo. The CBC shouldn't mess with the Friendly Giant, he's bigger.

Look up, look way up...

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 08:16 AM

Following CET's courageous lead, I must confess that I too am a Reach For The Top survivor. In our last game my correct answer to the question "On what side of the Periodic Table are the halogens found?" was ruled incorrect. Our appeal was upheld, which would have resulted in a tie game had the producers not scoured the tape for the five spurious points which they also awarded to our opponents. We were left with the suspicion that the game had been rigged in favour of the team located in the production centre, thus saving the CBC the expense of hosting an out-of-town team.

On another matter, I, somewhat to my surprise, have turned into a huge Afghanada fan. The secret, as with Trailer Park Boys, is the characters. They are real enough that once you get to know them, you care about them. As to the jingoism, there's plenty of times when one character or another has doubts about the mission (most recently, the O/C himself)--but then operational necessity imposes itself and they're too busy returning fire to have second thoughts about why they're there. The government's official line, respeatedly echoed on Afghanada, is that we're there to help the Afghan people. This is not true, of course, we're there for geo-political reasons like securing access to Caspian oil and appeasing the bully next door, but if the government insists on reiterating the myth, we can at least insist on our living up to it oocasionally, and cry shame when we fail to do so.

If anyone would like a copy of my print-your-own Afghanada yellow-ribbon bumper sticker, PM me with your e-mail address.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 10:26 AM

"they're too busy returning fire to have second thoughts about why they're there"

Yeah. That has been true of the vast majority of soldiers under fire in every war in history...Germans, Russians, Japanese, Americans, Italians, British, Mexicans....you name it. Once the shooting starts, basic instinct takes over.

This is why people should not be hasty to condemn ordinary soldiers on behalf of their country, although their country may indeed be engaged in unjustifiable aggression, imperialism, etc...

Ordinary soldiers are usually just trying to do their job as best they can and stay alive so they can go home at some point.

I agree that Canadian troops are most certainly not there to "help Afghans"...they're there for the reasons you stated, Bob. Geopolitical reasons. This is not something to condemn the soldiers for, because soldiers simply follow orders faithfully and try to cope as best they can under the circumstances. It's something their political leaders carry the responsibility for, and their political leaders will say all sorts of patently disingenous stuff (the usual platitudes) to dress it up for the home audience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: CET
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 02:09 PM

This is really getting into thread creep, Little Hawk, but geopolitical reasons for being in Afghanistan do not justify condemning either the soldiers who do the fighting, or the government who sent them there. Of course we are there for geopoltical reasons. What other reasons are there? We should not be there at all if our vital interests are not engaged. Personally, I think they are. Characterizing our mission in that country as "unjustifiable aggression, imperialism, etc..." is simply nonsense. I don't deny that people of good will can differ about the wisdom of the mission, but one thing it is not is an imperialistic adventure against the Afghan people.

Anyway, back to the thread again. I have a memory of being unable to answer the question "Where did Fats Domino get his thrill?" I feebly answered, "On the piano."

Also, does anyone remember d'Iberville?


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bankley
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 04:13 PM

"Cannonball" about 2 truckers, Mike Malone and Jerry Austin....

"The Plouffe Family" which was better as 'La Famille Plouffe' on the other only CDN station...

and what about the commercials ? like Fred Davis and his DeMauriers or Alan Mills singing "Always Shop at Your Metro Store', way back when the youngest kid in the family had to change the channels for everyone........

thanx for the Lenny stories.... his daughter Emily Hughes made a fine documentary a few years ago called "The Genius of Lenny Breau"... she sent me a copy,..... but that's another story...


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: GUEST,Obie
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 04:24 PM

"when the youngest kid in the family had to change the channels for everyone..."

Back then there was no need for us to change channels. CBC was CH4 and that was it. If you didn't like the show you used the power switch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 05:02 PM

Yes, your point is a valid one, CET. You are quite correct that countries are always motivated by geopolitical reasons when they make the decision go to war. It's pragmatism of one sort or another...although it may be based on various forms of unrealistic dogma too at times...and it may be poorly thought-out pragmatism in the long term. That's always up for debate.

What concerns me about Afghanistan, and indeed about the whole region all around there, is that a number of countries are acting as agents for the big multinational oil companies. I think that is the real game that is being played, and I think that's the principle reason why the West has soldiers in Afghanistan and in Iraq. (not that Afghanistan has oil itself, but it is strategically positioned in regards to several vital areas that do)

If so, I can't approve of the game. The money from the oil in the Caspian region and in the Middle East should go to the local people to better their own societies, not to a bunch of multinationals based in the USA, Canada, and Great Britain. It should be 100% in control of the nations under whose ground it rests.

Chavez has earned the ire of America for the same reason. He's controlling his own country's oil revenues instead of permitting foreign control. That's what makes him an outlaw in the view of the USA. That's what's makes Iran an "outlaw" too. They control their own land and their own oil. They are autonomous.

As they should and have every right to... BUT the one thing a big Mafia boss does NOT permit is autonomy on the part of shopkeepers who reside on what he considers HIS territory...and the big oil companies and the USA consider pretty much the whole world to be their territory (with the conditional exception of Russia and China who are well-armed enough to protect themselves).

That's why I say that war is in fact nothing more than armed robbery. It is an attempt to take by force something that rightly belongs to someone else. First you offer them a deal they "can't refuse"...but they do refuse...then you apply some pressure, then some more pressure, then you openly threaten them and apply sanctions, finally you attack them and kill those who won't give in. That's how it works, and it's just armed robbery.

Exactly like the Mafia, but on a much bigger scale.

Would they do the same to us if the positions of power were reversed? Yeah, probably. That doesn't mean I'm going to approve of it, either which way. There has to come a point where as a single species on this planet we collectively rise above this sort of criminal behaviour.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 10:13 PM

How about "Check It Out" with Don Adams??? Man, that was dreadful.

Billy Van in both "The Hilarious House of Frightenstein" and The Party Game. I think that they were both done at CHCH in Hamilton.

CHCH also did a short lived show called "In Session" if memory serves me correctly. It was just featured musicians jamming in a studio, no audience if I recall. There was one episode that had Stevie Ray Vaughan and Albert King. Albert was great, while they were playing he would stop to relight the pipe that was clenched between his teeth. Stevie had not hit the bigtime yet. It was a good show. There was another that featured Johnny Winter & Doctor John. I called CHCH a few years ago to see if they had footage of the show. They didn't, it had been sold to someone else years earlier and the guy I was speaking with didn't know where it was. I think I saw the SRV & Albert King episode released on DVD a couple of years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Obscure Canadian TV shows...
From: bankley
Date: 29 Nov 07 - 08:37 AM

well, we had 2 channels...both CBC..one French, one Hanglash,,, and some nites, would turn the outdoor antenna manually to try and pull in a show from Plattsburg,"Shock Theater" where I got to see Frankenstein, Dracula, etc.... in real grainy black and white on a late Sat. nite.... scary.... hell, I remember watching the big chief test pattern.... interesting but not much dialog there...


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