Sheffield Carols 2007

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Les from Hull
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 09:15 AM

There's some mention of Sheffield Carols tomorrow morning on BBC One, with Kate Rusby.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 05 Dec 07 - 08:22 AM

Word of that session has already reached the ears of the intrepid Sheffield Live folk show presenter and is already scripted into this week's show - in so far the show is scripted at all.

Second half of "Thank Goodness It's Folk" after 11.00 - 93.2 FM, www.sheffieldlive.org and podcast.

Next weeks show i.e. December 14th, will be devoted to the carols - at least one hour - for the curious.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 05 Dec 07 - 06:57 AM

Les, Maggs, Ken J, Emma B et moi went to Kelham Island Tavern after carols last Sunday we started carolling whilst there. Ollie the barman was 'off duty' but he said to me yesterday how much he enjoyed it. He's from that area of Sheffield and it brought back memories, he also said he had had some good feedback from the regulars.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 04 Dec 07 - 12:24 AM

Sorry not been back for a while.
We start our singing next weekend, now that the big choir stuff is finished, three performances over the last two weekends of more serious stuff.
Yes Dave I know Caroline well, we shared "Padstow" at Toronto's Mayday Morris Dancing last year.
Hail Smiling Morn is so bloody high though but such a good'un that we do it anyhow.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Les from Hull
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 11:31 AM

Maggie and I would like to thank fellow Mudcatters MCFat, Wyrd Sister, Folkiedave and Emma B who helped us to have a great day at the carols.

We were sorry to hear that no Ducks had made it through, although the season is more for Geese and Turkeys anyway.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 10:54 AM

And it was great to see you Emma. And sad to miss the ducks - though LEs and Maggie made it from Hull.

Sorry I did not have a lot of time there post-sing, I was tryng to get some stuff for the radio programme done.

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Emma B
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 10:35 AM

Sorry to miss you Jane and Geoff, thanks for the text we were all about worried abiout you in that wild weather. I actually managed (for the first time ever) to get to The Royal without taking a wrong turn and in time to find a small space next to the bar as the final link in the getting the empties to the bar chain!

A lovely extension to the carols this year by some impromptu singing in the Kelham Island Tavern afterwards.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: selby
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 07:52 AM

Thanks for that Dave not knowing Sheffield I thought I did well but
obviously you Know better than me.
As for the Victorian market I am also quite well aware of that and took that into account.It missed the dancers and general air of the past.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 04:44 AM

In fairness the VCM was never expected to be as good as it has been - Kelham was severely flooded and they are taking to opportunity to make a lot of changes in the museum.

The roadworks are also a result of the flooding where the road collapsed into the River Don. The Blue Ball at Worrall is easy to get to since it is on the diversion!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: selby
Date: 03 Dec 07 - 03:28 AM

We managed to find Worrall and enjoyed lt brilliant!!!!!
We also found Kelham Island Victorian Christmas Market and was dissapointed this year
Keith

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 07:04 PM

Some more updates (including The George at Upper Denby) added to the list:

http://www.folk-network.com/events/2007/carols_07.html

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 06:44 PM

I thought it was Smiling and not Shining!

Should have followed Emma's link...

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 05:45 PM

reminds me of Gilbert and Sullivan...

Funny that - Gilbert and Sullivan reminds me of Hal Smiling Morn!!

And what about "Old Foster"? Little boys in Sheffield never wanted to be train drivers - they only ever wanted to sing the bass line in "Old Foster".

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 05:03 PM

I ended up arriving in Worrall this morning quite unexpectedly, and from the opposite side to where I meant to be, because of those roadworks. My sympathies, Mrs D!

We had a right good sing. Not so crowded as last year after the carols festival - no one carried out this time.

My favourite is Diadem. Though I like the "flies away" bits in Hail Shining Morn too - reminds me of Gilbert and Sullivan...

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 03:50 PM

It wouldn't have helped if you had found the road anyway there was a road race. But texting us helped. At least we knew you were lost!!

It is a new trap set by the locals to catch unwary mudcatters.

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 02 Dec 07 - 03:27 PM

Geoff and I set off at 10.30 this morning to get there but after two hours and the third tour of the centre of Sheffield without finding the right exit to Dungworth we gave up and came home. Every road we thought we knew seemed to have been dug up! Oh well hope everyone had a good time.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Dec 07 - 06:26 PM

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Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 01 Dec 07 - 06:23 PM

OOps - 266 2662

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Dec 07 - 06:19 PM

Thanks Dave!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 01 Dec 07 - 06:15 PM

Say hello - down by the front window/organ side/get my own cheese sandwich at 1.00 pm.

Warn the taxi driver that there is a road race on tomorrow on the Loxley Rd. and he may be better going via Stannington.

If you want to avoid black cabs then (0114) 266266 (Mercury) is your best bet. Phone at arouund Rotherham!

See you there.

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Dec 07 - 03:29 PM

We should be at Dungworth tomorrow. We are due to arrive at Sheffield station at 11.25, so if anybody wants to share a taxi to Dungworth, we are the ones carrying instrument cases and looking sheepish. And if anybody fancies a tune or a song in Sheffield tomorrow afternoon let us know.

Les and Maggie

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:08 PM

I rest my case!

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 04:01 PM

'The holly bears a root...'   ;-)

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 12:20 PM

Some people think we do it deliberately to confuse people.

I could neither confirm or deny that!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 10:01 AM

Beware!
The lyrics on the link differ in several places from the ones sung around Sheffield (which, of course, differ from each other, as is only right and proper)

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Nov 07 - 06:21 PM

oops too fast
lyrics

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Nov 07 - 06:18 PM

Hail Shining Morn! - mine too!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: GUEST,Peter from Halifax
Date: 22 Nov 07 - 06:17 PM

Keep up the good work, lads and lasses. My favourite is the one that ends "flies away" "from whose bright presence"

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 11:04 AM

I have your book - though I think I got one with problems in the printing. Excellent to take the tradition over there though.

The lovely Caroline Parry whom you must know was a visitor from far flung places one year at Dungworth.

Best regards,

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 06:20 AM

Tis indeed thwe Worrall book. I'm not the agent I just happen to help out the bar staff by selling them for the pub will post the details of how to obtain them direct from Worall Male Voice Choir

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 12:45 AM

The Orange Peel Carolers will be doing their small part to continue the Sheffield Tradition in Canada (well as close as we know how, with a few tunes thrown in here and their and some stuff that's not really from Sheffield but most people over here don't know the difference Oh yes and a Canadian version of Angels from the Realms of Glory sorry!)
Anyhow we do it with much gusto and have a great time doing it.
We will be at the Golden Kiwi in Cambridge on Dec 16th
Sheherds Crook In Georgetown on Dec 15th
and The Winchester Arms in Orangeville on Dec??

MCFat, is that the Worrall book or is it another one which you sell??
if it's different I would like at least one, or maybe four or more.
Good singing to All, JohnB

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 02:12 PM

Indeed, I well remember Peggy Seeger saying that music was the last faculty. Which is why the family sang to Ewan as he died. (Desert Island Discs).

In fact as a good start to one of our daughters, we got one of the world's great folk musicians to play over the bump as she lay kicking in the womb.

Not a musical bone in her body!!!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Cats
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 11:19 AM

It is scientifically proven that the first use of memory from in the womb to the last loss of memories is music. [It was on the radio this morning, I'm not a genius!] Consequently, people who have had a stroke will benefit from music as this is the last to go and the easiest to relearn. So, a Carol session for Neil would be medically sound as well as being a wonderful gesture. It might help other stroke patients in his ward too.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:35 AM

Thanks, MCFat, hand-delivered, no less! Since I am about another 2,000 miles west of Boston, I guess I'll have to send you some money and have you post it from Boston...I'll PM you, shall I? Oh, and definitely with music.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 10:17 AM

It has crossed my mind. I shall check with the hospital/wife when I visit.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:48 AM

Still think you should organise that hospital sing, no matter what the doctor says!

Or, more seriously, how about a small house sing ifc he's out before Christmas?

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 07:10 PM

It was indeed strange not to see Neil. However I am sure that he will be heartened by the card and the fact that he was much missed, he has promised to be here next year and I think we are all going to hold him to that !!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 05:24 PM

Mr Eyre (folkiedave) was in fine form although I beat him to the pub,

He did indeed beat me to it - by cunning use of public transport. The bus clearly arrived early - I was there at its normal arrival time and there was a queue building up at that point and Jim was already anticipating his first pint of Hambleton's. My other excuse was that I had forgotten the card I had bought for Neil and had to go back for it.

Which was really a link into the fact that one of the leading singers for the past twenty+ years, Neil Henderson,was missing today - Neil had a stroke back in July and is not yet well enough to come, indeed he is still in hospital. There will be many who miss Neil.

I am certainly one of them.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 05:03 PM

I have checked this this evening.

I am reliably informed that it does not work in the normal way at the Travellers - instead of starting the first Sunday after armistice as many do - the sing there for some reason has always been done by counting 5 Sundays backwards from the nearest Saturday to Xmas. And please don't hang me if that doesn't work either!!

If it is any consolation, the local I spoke to got caught out last year and he has been going for ten years!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:28 PM

Re 'Spayne's message: I've added a line to the listings reminding people to phone the pubs concerned before travelling; these are informal events and not guaranteed to take place.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:47 PM

Forgot to say it was a belting first sing today. Mr Eyre (folkiedave) was in fine form although I beat him to the pub, this was of course the only thing that Scotland managed to win this weekend !!!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:36 PM

Yes do you wantg one just with words £3 or with music £6 and do you wnt me to hand deliver next april when i am in boston ?

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:12 PM

MCFat, any chance of buying a book from across the pond?

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: SPAYNE
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 08:32 AM

Would like to know why we drove for 2 1/2 hours last night to get to the travellers rest and the carols were not on, heard mutterings from locals that the pub was busier than normal, was I the only one that didn't know this had been cancelled last night?

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 08:09 PM

Modesty forbids.......I am also mentioned in the editorial and have done a review!

Mudcatters strike back!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Surreysinger
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:43 PM

Thanks for the tip re ED&S Dave - do I take it you may have had a hand in whatever the next edition contains on the carols??

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 10:47 AM

They were fantastic - although had they sung the complete versions of their songs we would still have been there!! Most moving songs though.

And thanks "Cats at work" I can confirm from the Sheffield end - that is indeed the case. Getting closer - I can hardly wait!!

Dave

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 07:53 AM

The Kilmore Carols, sometimes also known as the Wexford Carols, have been sung in the Parish Church of St Mary, Kilmore, County Wexford, Ireland since 1751. They are a cycle of carols, one of which is sung at a time, sung at Mass on the days from Christmas Day to the Feast of the Epiphany.

The carols are very rarely sung outside the church so it was a real treat to hear the singers at the Festival of Village Carols last year, and to meet the singers as well.

The carols are sung at a very slow and thoughtful pace with skilful decoration of the notes which is simply wonderful to experience.

Some more information about the carols and the singers, with links to additional material, can be found on the Village Carols website.

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 07:50 AM

'proping'? 'Carol book seller'??

Shame on you!

As the Patrician said, 'LEARN THE WORDS'!

(OK, I know, newcomers, tunes, souvenirs etc...)

Oh - and you need to go for a p - best set off now so you'll get through ;-)

Subject: RE: Sheffield Carols 2007
From: MC Fat
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 06:37 AM

Will be proping up the bar and doing my unofficial job as 'Carol Book Seller' for Royal plus singing a bit too