BS: Gay/Anti gay issue

Subject: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Big Phil
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 07:35 AM

Opinions.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 07:55 AM

Sorry I though you said ' tissue '

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: artbrooks
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:03 AM

And the issue upon which you would like opinions is?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,Maypole Dancer
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:03 AM

Definately pro Gay having a Gay Day is dancing and singing having fun. How could anyone be anti gay?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Bee
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:18 AM

There is no issue. Some people are unreasonably anti-gay. They may have personal issues.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:23 AM

Issues, issues, they all fall down...

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:23 AM

I used to be anti-gray but now I are one.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:38 AM

Of which magazine?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:43 AM

What sort of homophobic bollocks is this???

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Bee
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 08:47 AM

'Homophobic bollocks'... heeheehee!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 09:03 AM

Seriously - I wouldn't have thought this was open to debate, let alone the sort of puerile levity on display here.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 09:50 AM

Already done to death and this seems like you're trolling, Big Phil.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,some of my best friends are.......
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 12:09 PM

I believe this thread is in response to some comments made on another
thread regarding a certain singer/songwriter. Someone on the thread
mentioned that the discussion would be best continued below the line
and so here it is..shall we add bi-sexuality and trans-gender issues?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 12:13 PM

Why?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 12:17 PM

"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!"
                                       --Rhett Butler

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: jeffp
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 01:14 PM

"As long as they don't do it in the streets and scare the horses."
                                           --Victoria Regina

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 02:36 PM

ISSUE!!    ISSUE!!

Gesundheit!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 02:59 PM

Maybe we could start another thread and actually discuss the question that, I admit, wasn't exactly asked, but is nonetheless interesting?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 03:12 PM

Or you could just put "Gay" in the thread title search box, set the time to "All" and see what all comes up.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 05:27 PM

How can someone with the handle 'Big Phil' expect to be taken seriously on a gay issue...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 06:52 PM

Anything I have to say on the subject I have said about eleventy-fourteen times already, as has just about everybody else who frequents this forum. Threads on this subject generally tend to generate more heat than light.

Why waste more bandwidth? Anybody who is fascinated by the subject should follow Kat's suggestion:    ". . . put 'Gay' in the thread title search box, set the time to 'All' and see what all comes up."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 07:07 PM

Dave..I think "Big Phil" is a reference to an unwilling candidate for manager of the English National football team.
Bee is correct. Some people are homosexual. The vast majority of people are not. No issue there.
The issues appear when the minority attempt to impose their agenda on the majority....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:07 PM

. . . and vice versa.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,Willie-O been away so long I lost me cookie
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:15 PM

Load of crap Ake. "Agenda" my arse.

"Anti-gay issue"...what the fuck does that even mean? Waste of a thread line.

W-O

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 03:48 AM

Don...I see no agenda towards homosexuals from the public at large, whereas, every day there seems to be a new hurdle for the homosexual fundamentalists to jump.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 08:58 AM

Well, here is one for the Fundies/Antis...

God made everything.
God loves everybody.
If God made everything, God made homosexuals.
If God loves everybody, God loves homosexuals.

Turn the other cheek.
Love thy neighbor.
The New Testament replaced the Old Testament.

If they wanna use the Bible to spout off, use it right back.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 03:27 PM

and surely turn the other cheek sould never be used in reference to gay issues...

:-P

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 04:58 PM

Ake, the homosexual minority has been dumped on by the heterosexual majority for millennia, including social persecution, imprisonment, and execution. Now, in this marginally more "enlightened" age, they would like to have a few of the rights that everyone else enjoys, which will not effect the majority in any way whatsoever, and suddenly they're trying "to impose their agenda on the majority?"

Jayzuz, man, gimme a break!!

Don Firth

P. S. There. That ought to start the discussion. Not that we haven't been over this same ground several dozen times already.

P. P. S. And what, pray tell, is a "homosexual fundamentalist?"

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: bobad
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 05:08 PM

Linguistic cleverness:

fun·da·ment
(fnd-mnt)
n.
1.
a. The buttocks.
b. The anus.
2. The natural features of a land surface unaltered by humans.
3. A foundation, as of a building.
4. An underlying theoretical basis or principle: "All neighbor states ... must revise ... their policy fundaments" C.L. Sulzberger.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 11:28 PM

Well, one bit of evidence that there is an agenda against homosexuals is the fact that there are still undercover policemen prowling the men's rooms in public places (like the airport men's room in Minneapolis) flirting with men, entrapping them, and then fining them for "disturbing the peace"--

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 07:57 AM

Never trust a policeman with a moustache.....:0(

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 09:06 AM

Especially if it's not his.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: artbrooks
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 09:52 AM

well, lets see...Big Phil started a thread called Gay/anti gay issue with a one word statement: Opinions. No question mark. I asked shortly afterwards "And the issue upon which you would like opinions is?" Big Phil has not been back, and many people are answering an unknown question. Classic troll behavior, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Rasener
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 11:41 AM

Having Anal ised this thread, I have come to the conclusion that it is a load of are soles and is the troll the one that stopped the billy goat gruffs getting over the bridge?

Time to get Big Phil and put him in the Land Phil.

And is Gay, the song that Clifford T Ward made a hit with. Well I love that song.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Nov 07 - 01:54 PM

I figure it'll work out like left-handedness, with only about 10% strongly in the minority, a whole bunch with tendencies in various directions, and slightly under half strongly straight.
I also think, with all the differences showing up in people's MRIs and other data, that studies should be split gynophile/androphile rather than male/female for biology, biochemistry, physiology etc...
How about opinions on that?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Amos
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 04:40 PM


Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:21pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States, in a reversal of Bush administration policy, has decided to sign on to a U.N. declaration that calls for the decriminalization of homosexuality, the State Department said on Wednesday.

State Department spokesman Robert Wood said the Obama administration, which took office eight weeks ago, would now join 66 other U.N. member states who supported a U.N. statement in December that condemned human rights violations based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

"The United States is an outspoken defender of human rights and critic of human rights abuses around the world," Wood told reporters.

"As such, we join with other supporters of this statement, and we will continue to remind countries of the importance of respecting the human rights of all people in all appropriate international fora."

Gay rights groups immediately welcomed the move.

"The administration's leadership on this issue will be a powerful rebuke of an earlier Bush administration position that sought to deny the universal application of human rights protections to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals," said Mark Bromley, who chairs the Council for Global Equality.

The U.N. General Assembly had been split over the issue of gay rights, with many Muslim countries refusing to sign on to the statement because of opposition to international attempts to legalize homosexuality.

A rival statement read out by Syria at the time gathered about 60 signatures from the 192-nation assembly.

The United States was the only western state not to sign on to the gay rights document. All European Union member states endorsed it, as did Canada, Australia and Japan.

'NO LEGAL OBLIGATIONS'

In a move that angered U.S. gay rights groups, the Bush administration argued that the broad framing of the language in the statement created conflict with U.S. laws.

The rationale was that favoring gay rights in a U.N. document might be interpreted as an attempt by the U.S. federal government to override individual states' rights on issues like gay marriage.

Pressed on this issue, Wood said a "careful" interagency review by the Obama administration found that signing on to the U.N. document "commits us to no legal obligations."

A rationale voice is a joy to behold.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 05:08 PM

A rationale voice is a joy to behold.

Yes!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 05:27 PM

The Gay stroke anti gay issue ...

... well they probably shouldn't without consent ...

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 05:35 PM

Is a gay guy in a coma a fruit or a vegetable?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 05:49 PM

Even a rational voice.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 05:56 PM

That's not funny, Mrrzy

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 07:36 PM

Cute, Jereditor:-)

Bill, I agree. I don't find it funny at all, esp. with a gay family member.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 10:48 PM

Your economy is in shambles, there are kids working in sweatshops, the middle class family is headed for destruction, crime in the streets, robber barons are stealing whatever treasure that they haven't already destroyed, people are choosing between eating to stay alive and the medicines that keep them alive, the education system is imploding, there are fucking potholes everywhere.......


.... and I'm supposed to take this seriously????????

I wonder if there is a member out there in the GLBT community that could solve these problems for folks. We sure would appreciate it....

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 07:14 AM

Or even in the BLT community ...

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 08:55 AM

Yo!   Big Phil!

Blow me..........



Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 10:29 AM

We've been trolled folks. Big Phil hasn't even been back to the thread. One word "Opinions" is all we need to keep a tread afloat?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 12:06 PM

Big Phil's troll, back in 2007, is not the point. The point was that an important change in US policy has occurred. And Mick, although the hardware issues are more important, agreed, nevertheless, yes, it should be taken seriously, because it means a kind of tolerance has been advanced in the world.

If people were being burned in Persia for their color rather than their sexual orientation, I daresay it would seem pretty important, not so?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 12:24 PM

Doesn't bother me - it just serves as evidence of what an interesting lot you all are as you are not only able to maintain an interesting conversation from the scantest and vaguest prompt, but your answers and ideas are consistently interesting.

Funny how some people have opinions and others have agendas.

I don't mind agenda benders as long as they don't ram it down my throat.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 12:29 PM

Oh and Mrrrzy ...

... I get it ... and in my opinion its campness combined with the fact that its just a play on words really makes it totally innocent ... no offence and no harm done.

If theres anything dark about it its the vegetable bit - and I reckon Bill is being playfully admonishing though I do not pretend to speak for him.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay/Anti gay issue
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 12:30 PM

oh and one more thing .....





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