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Subject: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,PMB Date: 15 Jan 08 - 07:26 AM Glasgow 15 February 1577â€"8. Statut. The prouest, baillies, and counsall hes statut that the pynt of wyne salbe na darar sauld nor xl d. the pynt, vnder the pane of fyve pundis money the first falt, the second falt ten pundis money, and the thrid falt escheitting of the hogheid of wyne that is sauld for mair. The Scottish pound was worth one- twelfth of an English pound at the time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Grab Date: 15 Jan 08 - 08:09 AM XL d the pint. 40 pence, so 3 shillings and fourpence, I guess. Mind you, this is a pint of *wine*! They knew how to drink back then. Graham. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Rog Peek Date: 15 Jan 08 - 05:48 PM 1577? You must be real old to remember back that far. Me, my earliest recollection is half a crown for a pint of Whitbread while a pint of scrumpy cider was one shilling and a penny (old money), no need to guess which I was drinking on a cheap night out circa 1965. Rog |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,PMB Date: 16 Jan 08 - 03:53 AM That was bloody expensive for 1965! Even in 1970 Wilson's bitter was only 2/- in the Brit at Irlam's o'th' Height. Mild was a penny cheaper. Graham: note the exchange rate. In English money (sound of Scotsman spitting) the price was only three and a third pence. Here are some other prices from the same year, all in Scottish money: Ale, 7d. the pint Tallow, 18s. the stone Candle, 1s. 2d. the pound The four pence loaf to weigh sixteen ounces. So the pint of wine cost about the same as 6 pints of ale. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Rog Peek Date: 16 Jan 08 - 04:53 AM Yes, 'The Bell Hotel' in Malmesbury was, I suspect a much better class of hostelry than the 'Brit' at Irlam's o'th' Height. They certainly didn't serve scrumpy. Beer will have been cheaper elsewhere, but that's the one I remember. Rog |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: skipy Date: 16 Jan 08 - 06:41 AM Due to the lack of trade over the Xmas period - CAUSED DIRECTLY BY THE SMOKING BAN! beer in my local is now £2-00 a pint to clear the stock. Before Xmas is was £2.45. Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Captain Ginger Date: 16 Jan 08 - 08:15 AM Enjoy it while you can. Grain prices have rocketed over the past few months, and that will be passed on by the brewers ere long. Bottled beer is scheduled to rise by 25 per cent in March according to my local wholesaler, while the price of a pint could well hit £4 by the end of the year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,PMB Date: 16 Jan 08 - 08:26 AM It rose then too: Glasgow, 23 February 1596–7. Statute, wyne. The provest and bailleis ordanit the officeris to pas and charge the wyne sellares nocht to sell ony wyne that come furth of Edinburgh nor x s. the pynt, onder the pane of ten li. fra this furth, and the vnlawis to be applyit to the puire. The price had trebled in 21 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,PMB Date: 16 Jan 08 - 08:37 AM But the prices didn't stop people drinking: Act, towne pypers. Robert Spens, drummer, being accusit for sindry faltis committit be him in his service sene his admitting to office, first for ganging to vther townes and brydellis be waye of staffry and begging aganes the honour of the towne, and siclyik within the towne and nocht making service in dew tyme mornyng and evenyng, bot absenting him thairfra in drinking extraordinarlie, is thairfor be the provest bailleis and counsale depryvit of his office, and dischargeit thairof, and to vaik quhill thai be farder resoluit heireftir. And as to Ferguis M'Claye, pyper, gif he be fund heirefter in nocht doing his service as becumis, nycht and daye, and that he sall mak thre faltis, to be depryvit of his office. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Snuffy Date: 16 Jan 08 - 10:20 AM Even in 1970 Wilson's bitter was only 2/- in the Brit at Irlam's o'th' Height. Mild was a penny cheaper./i> Wilson's mild was 3d cheaper than bitter at the Carters Arms in Wilmslow in '69. A round of three bitters at 2/1d and two milds at 1/10d left a penny change out of a ten bob note! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Jan 08 - 03:54 PM "Enjoy it while you can. Grain prices have rocketed over the past few months, and that will be passed on by the brewers ere long." Because they're making fuel out of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Newport Boy Date: 16 Jan 08 - 04:02 PM When I went to college in London in 1955, I was used to paying 1/2 for Lloyd & Yorath's bitter. London prices starting at 1/6 came as a shock, so we usually drank in the college bar, where the Flowers keg was 1/4. In 1963, working near Bristol, we were in the habit of calling at the Ship at Alveston for a Friday evening pint on the way home (what drink-driving law, officer?). We changed our allegiance to one of the pubs in town when the Ship put up the price of Worthington E from 2/4 to 2/6. Whaat - pay half a crown for a pint - No Way!! We could still get a pint of ordinary bitter at 2/1. But best value (lowest price for the year) must go to the Gaer Working Men's Club & Institute. Their main beer supply was from the Clubs United Brewery at Pontyclun - award-winning beers from a co-operative brewery. All profits were returned to the clubs as a bonus at the end of the year - shared according to the number of barrels sold. By 1970 the club had temperature-controlled cellar, new bar furniture, two new billiard tables and had run out of works to do. So they used the bonus to reduce the price of the beer for the month of January. For 4 whole weeks we were able to drink Clubs Best for 10d a pint - in 1971! You couldn't do that with the nasty capitalist beers!! Phil |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: fat B****rd Date: 16 Jan 08 - 04:37 PM 1960 - A pint of mixed in Taddy's on Cleethorpes front was 1/4d. Bloody horrible an'all it was. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Schantieman Date: 17 Jan 08 - 02:39 PM When I started drinking in 1972ish it was about three bob a pint NW London). Here in sunny Liverpool £2 to £2-40 is typical now but I did have a lovely pint of home-brewed Flag & Turret in the Scarisbrick Hotel in South the other night for only £1.65 :-) Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 08 - 02:47 PM Was it the Brit that was part in Salford and part in Swinton, PMB? I remember one of them pubs was - Everyone used to go from the vault to the best room (or vice-versca) at 10 because the other was open half an hour later! My first pint was Tetleys mild in the Staff of Life, Swinton. Probably 1969 (I was 16) and cost 1/10. Cheaper than the Brit some years earlier! :-) Cheers Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Herga Kitty Date: 17 Jan 08 - 02:57 PM I can't remember how much beer cost in old money (I was a student when we went decimal). When I was introduced to Young's bitter in the Buckingham Arms - in 1973, I think but might have been 1974 - Ordinary was 19p a pint and Special cost 20p. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Jan 08 - 06:36 PM BTW, skipy - The pub is still open and you get your beer for less! How is the smoking ban still a bad thing? ;-) D. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Jan 08 - 06:52 PM Currently, local microbrews run 4.50 USD.
Summer 2007 - cheap hotel outskirts of Paris - pint Guinness = 10 Euro!
Sincerely,
Ready to begin malting process on family-grown barley, malt prices have doubled in two years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Folkiedave Date: 17 Jan 08 - 07:05 PM For those interested in the Sheffield Carols - goodness me - that time already :-) the bber at the Travellers, Oughtibridge was £1.26 this year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: skipy Date: 17 Jan 08 - 07:15 PM DP, I go there now only when I have too, e.g. if I need to bo a bit of "buisness" & I take the car! so I have one, 1/2 of it in the smoke shed! there are probably over 30 friends that I have not seen in months. Our community has fallen apart, we are f****d to say the least. Please believe me that the landlady is scared shitless! The week before Xmas this year she banked £6500 less than the same week last year! They have reduced the price of beer, they have a sign outside that pool is 1/2 price & free some nights, this is a big, big pub! but it is often empty, the under manager (brother of the manager) is now gone, the staff cut by more than 1/2. This pub won Greene King "best pub of the year" 3 years ago, so it is not a failing dive, still not a dive, but failing now, big time! Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: GUEST,PMB Date: 18 Jan 08 - 04:27 AM Yes, Dave, that Brit, gone along with the Woolpack when they blasted the dual carriageway through. We went in the Brit because my dad and his mates went in the Woolpack. And going from the vault or the snug to the lounge was an option, but not vice- versa. To go in the vault you had to inherit a place from your dad, when he moved through to the snug when one of the old codgers died. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Price of a Pint From: Dave the Gnome Date: 18 Jan 08 - 06:30 PM Never mind, eh, skip - You'll have to come and live somewhere where pubs don't rely on drug addition to keep them going. Oh, hang on, what is alcohol? Where's the best place to score some e's in Salford? Errrmmmm. Maybe I had better rephrase the statement. You'll have to come and live somewhere where the pubs realy DO know how to run a business:-) Still none closed here in Salford or over in Whitley Bay, well, not due to the 'stinking the place out' ban anyway! Three that I go in regularly are reporting record profits on food and extras - And they go to the landlord, not the brewery so they are more than happy. Sorry to hear you didn't suceed at giving up btw - Keep trying anyway. Anyway, nothing to do with the price of a pint! Only four pubs left on th' heights now, PMB. Fortunatley 3 of them are Holts places but the only traditional one of those is the Red Lion. The Wellington have started selling Pizzas of all things (one of the ones making more money for the landlord btw) Holts is no longer the cheapest pint though:-( The Windmill in Pendlebury (Sam Smiths) now has that honour. Couple of clubs have opened (or maybe re-opened) since your time here - St Lukes now has a thriving club and there is a bowling club just on the corner of Langworthy and Eccles (New?) Road that was done up a year or so back. Cheers Dave |
