BS: Romney out of the race

Subject: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM

At least according to CNN. Should we believe them?

CNN story

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:55 PM

"Should we believe them?"

Gee, has CNN ever lied to us?

Subject: BS: Romney Suspends Presidential Bid
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:58 PM

Romney giving up campaign for President. I hope this means that John McCain will spend more time in the senate and less time on the road. Now if either Clinton or Obama (or both LOL) will retire from the race, they, too, can earn their public salary by going back to work.
Do I ask for too much? Perhaps I should be glad they are campaigning and not working. Oh the tension!

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Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:00 PM

It;s on the news here too. I told you guys weeks ago, next US Pres will be McCain.

G

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:01 PM

It's true. He's on CNN making his 'boe out' speech as I type this post.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM

Yeah, guys, CNN is spreading false rumors so as to loose cred.
Actually, as I write this, it's a done deal--Romney made the announcement. Should we believe him?

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM

I guess the more accurate term according to the article is that he has "suspended his campain". He could always jump start it later.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:17 PM

Boy .... he really let it out where he stands in his 'suspended' speech. Damn right scarry ... whew.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:25 PM

McCain-Huckabee ticket coming up.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 01:59 PM

What amazes me is that he had supporters in the first place. I only saw tha man on the TV a couple of times, once in a "debate", and thought, "What the ****?!!!" Scarey indeed, sIx!

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 02:03 PM

I listened to part of Romney's speech...

What a complete jerk that man is...

Yeah, he blamed the collapse of the economy om the poor...

He made a qip about all college professers being "liberals" in a way that was intent to bemeaning manner and then later stated that the US is falling behind uin education???

No wonder no one voted for this guy...

Bye...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 02:50 PM

Dropping out of the primary contests does NOT mean that Romney is no longer under consideration to become McCain's running mate. The prospect of a McCain/Huckabee ticket is by no means a done deal.

On the contrary: by bowing out now, Romney is doing McCain a big favor and saving him lots of money. He might very well be rewarded with the second spot on the ticket, if that is indeed what he wants.

Vice-presidential candidates are not always individuals who had run for the presidential nomination. McCain will pick whomever he and his advisers want, and they won't do it until the convention.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 02:56 PM

I suppose the Romney withdrawal is a last-ditch conservative effort to get a conservative candidate (Huckabee) instead of the relatively moderate McCain. I can't imagine McCain picking Huckabee or Romney as a running mate. I would exect him to placate the conservative wing of the party by picking a conservative, but somebody who is less of an ideologue.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 02:58 PM

Agreed, although it would make a formidable ticket.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:20 PM

The only thing standing between McCain and the presidency is Hillary. If he lives that long.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:35 PM

Or is this one of those Republican "oh, I *intend* to drop out" so that later, when he doesn't, he hasn't lied?

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:39 PM

R - actually, I read that Obama has a better chance of beating McCain than Hillary does...

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:39 PM

35 million..plus some donations. Pretty expensive hobby, this trying to 'lead'.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:45 PM

And the money never has to be paid back, right?

Listen, there's this bridge for sale near here . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:49 PM

I hear there's a Senator in Alaska who needs one...

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:50 PM

"Yeah, guys, CNN is spreading false rumors so as to loose cred."

You have to be the last person in the USA to think CNN HAS any cred.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: pdq
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:52 PM

"I can't imagine McCain picking Huckabee or Romney as a running mate. I would exect him to placate the conservative wing of the party by picking a conservative, but somebody who is less of an ideologue."          -Joe-

Yes, and the eventual McCain VP should be less abrasive and less divisive than those two.

I liked Former Governor George E. Pataki (New York) but he did not run.

Former Governor John E. "Jeb" Bush (Florida) will not be the man because of "Bush fatigue".
Jeb is also about 6'7" tall and McCain will not let anyone like that stan next to him on a podium and make McCain look less powerful.

Congressman Duncan L. Hunter (California) is a fine man and a good leader, but an all-West ticket is out.

Former Governor Tommy G. Thompson (Wisconsin), Former US Senator Richard J. "Rick" Santorum (Pennsylvania), and Governor Timothy J. "Tim" Pawlenty (Minnesota) are the likely VP candidates. McCain needs Northeast support, especially in Ohio, Iowa and maybe Pennsylvania.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:53 PM

"R - actually, I read that Obama has a better chance of beating McCain than Hillary does..."

                Yes, thats what you read everywhere. But if there was anything to find on Hillary, that Starr character would have found it.
                  The Swift-Boaters haven't even started on Obama yet, but a bunch of churcher goers where I work say they know for a fact that he's Muslim.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:55 PM

My husband and I watched the Mitt Romney speech and as one, we turned to each other and said "Tosser!!!" I am sure no translation is needed.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:57 PM

Yeah. Ya heven't heard a rumour by 8:00 AM, start one. Thing with shit when it flies is that it sticks all over everywhere. She'll get her share, too. Hell, Ann Coulter is a Hillary supporter. That should be said very loudly. Yep.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:07 PM

Is a 'tosser' British vernacular for arsehole?

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:10 PM

McCain is his own man and if he were to pick Lieberman as his running mate it wouldn't surprise me.He's not above sticking it to the right wing whackos.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:21 PM

I don't know where folks come up with this idea that McCain will be hard to beat...

Here's the mantra for the Dems: "If you liked the last 8 years, vote McCain"...

Purdy simple... If Obama can carry the same states that Kerry did, which I don't see as a stretch, and add any one of the following states than McUgly goes down in flames: New Mexico, Forida, Ohio, Virginia or Wes Virginia...

Put Bill Richardson on the ticket and its a done deal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:33 PM

There is NO way the USA will elect another Republican this time. Bush done closed that door.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:39 PM

I will tell you why he is formidable. Good organizers (labor, community, or political) know that folks talk about change, but in the quiet of the voting booth, while they are thinking things through, knowing that their families welfare is at stake, change from where one is at least surviving is much more daunting than it seems it should be. McCain, if he chooses the right running mate, represents the ability to have some change while holding onto most of the status quo stuff that folks are comfortable with. What I mean by that is that he is seen as a maverick who is honorable and independent thinking. But his economic policies bring up feelings of Reagan and he is held in high esteem by the middle.

I would never underestimate this man. Obama can beat him, Hillary probably can but will have a tougher time of it because of her negatives.

Stay tuned,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:40 PM

I wish I was as confident about that as you are Bruce - I'm not. We need to act as if the Repub have a good chance.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:45 PM

If the country is willing to have another Republican, then that's that. They will vote Republican. I can't see it though.

Eight bad years. Will McCain be able to distance himself from that? Will his voting record, which will be broadcast in the final race stand up to scrutiny?

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:55 PM

"We need to act as if the Repub have a good chance."


                Yes! It certainly wouldn't be a good idea to get overconfident.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:56 PM

Peace, Tosser is indeed the UK equivalent of a******e!

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:01 PM

Thank you, Linda.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:03 PM

My pleasure.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:08 PM

Hi, PDQ-
I agree wholeheartedly with almost all of your suggestions for possible running mates. Wouldn't it be an interesting election if all the candidates were honorable, reasonable people?
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: pdq
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:52 PM

I think that is what the founding fathers expected. Never give up hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:24 PM

He always reminded me of the politician in the Stephen King book 'The Dead Zone'. Didn't like him from day one.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: number 6
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:32 PM

At this rate, the race for the presidency will be over by the end of March. Winner being the one that retains the money flow.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: number 6
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:35 PM

"He always reminded me of the politician in the Stephen King book 'The Dead Zone'"

Good one Jacqui ... to me Romney reminds me of the actor George Hamilton in the movie Love at First Bite.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:35 PM

What that means is, the presidency is in the hands of people other than the voters.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: number 6
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:57 PM

Looks that way Riginslinger ... but in reality it has been that way for some time now.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: MaineDog
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:06 PM

Having heard a clip of his departure speech, I respect him much more than I did before. He may yet be a player in national politics.
HOWEVER , it is essential for the Republicans to have a candidate who can beat Billary.
MD

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:21 PM

If he's crafty, maybe McCain will choose as VP someone who could appeal to conservatives, and also undercut one aspect of both Clinton or Obama's appeal. A conservative black woman - Condoleeza Rice.

That's a dream ticket all right. After all, nightmares are dreams...

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:23 PM

At his age one imbalance in his potassium could change the whole picture in seconds.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 09:41 PM

I laughed out loud when I heard Romney's speech--"for the good of the nation" give me a friggin' break! As if! Who here doesn't think Romney threw in the towel to save what he hasn't blown through of his fortune and kids' future inheritance?

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:14 AM

Peace and Linda Kelly: to avoid embarrassment for either of you when talking to the English at street level, "tosser" does not mean "arsehole". It means "wanker", and its etymology it the same as "tossing off".

In its original meaning, a "toss" is a gentle throw, most particularly a gentle underhanded throw. Scale the motion down a bit and you will see the analogy to male masturbation.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 12:57 PM

Took the words right out of my mouth, Richard. Tosser = wanker.   I've been called a "tosser" so many times by Teribus that it has become one of my favorite British expressions. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Jim Lad
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 01:42 PM

"I wouldn't give a tosser" however, refers to a coin. For convenience sake we could say "Penny" but in actuality would most likely refer to whichever coin was used for Pitch & Toss in that locality.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:35 PM

Heard in my office today (well it was Friday) - what is the correct term to use for a collection of bankers? Answer, a wunch......

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:37 PM

Well, there's also the nautical use of the term for "tossing" one's dinner o'er the side.

I won't miss Romney. I find that kind of plastic rich Republican particularly scary. He has proven himself capable of speaking from all four sides of his face. I've always wondered how he got himself elected Governor of Massachussetts. But I've been grateful that we Mainers seceeded from Massachussetts in 1820.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:53 PM

"I wouldn't give a tosser" - never heard that in my life.

"I wouldn't give a toss", often enough.

Perhaps the usage varies in different parts of the country.

"I wouldn't give a brass farthing" still survives, as does "I wouldn't give sixpence", or "I wouldn't give tuppence"   The old coinage still hangs on in these ways.

But back to American politics, I imagine.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: PoppaGator
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 04:10 PM

"Tosser" = "Wanker" indeed, I suppose, but both words are pretty exclusively British English. The American equivalent would be, pardon the expression, "Jerkoff."

To be categorized as a jerkoff is roughly equivalent to being an asshole, I suppose, but with an emphasis on being self-centered and short-sighted. (They say that'll make you go blind, after all.)

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Jim Lad
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 04:31 PM

""I wouldn't give a tosser" - never heard that in my life."
Well we are from different countries, man from Harlow.
Same goes for that word being used in its ruder context.
It's an English rather than a British thing but I have heard of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 06:27 PM

Surely "jerk" is a closer parallel than "jerkoff". And of course that's a usage that has crossed back over the Atlantic.

Anyway the epithet Linda Kelly introduced into the thread which set off this intriguing linguistic drift seems a pretty appropriate one. Romney did come across as by far the least appealing candidate, on either side.

I can see why Democrats might be sorry he won't be the one their choice will be up against - but it's as well to remember that anything can happen in an election, and he might have won, which is not a pleasant thought. Not even for most Republicans it appears.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 06:38 PM

I didn't think Romney came off nearly as repulsive as McCain did, and still does.

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 07:09 PM

Well he does look rather as if he's on something, but at least he's funny with it. To me looks a lot like some member of the Bridges family who's strayed into the political wing of show business. ( Lloyd and Beau Bridges and McCain)

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 07:15 PM

Actually Kevin, "jerkoff" is rarely used and is generally "jackoff" instead. Jerkoff is the verb, jackoff is the noun.

In eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania in the areas of Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Steubenville, and points in between, the word is pronounced as "jagov." Jagov is almost never used alone but is virtually always preceded by "fucking" but pronounced locally as "fockin'." The art of profanity can at times be subtle. Where you might say, "Romney is a jerk. He's nothing but a fucking jackoff," this has naughty words but no real flavor or venom.

"Romney? That broke-dick Mamalucca ain't jack shit. The Douchebag's a fockin' Jagov with a dick the size of a sand flea."

You can readily see the improvement. Happy to help.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 07:34 PM

That's poetry, spaw!

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 08:59 PM

Should we forward the most relevant statements in this thread to the Romney Campaign Headquarters before they close shop, as a demonstration of our concern for their demise?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Feb 08 - 06:14 PM

Charley, I have reviewed this entire thread in depth and it is my considered opinion that the most relevant statement on this entire thread was in my last post where I suggest this candidate is basically worthless.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Romney out of the race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Feb 08 - 06:46 PM

Man, you are merciless, Spaw! I sure hope that poor Mr Romney does not get to hear those insensitive words you uttered.

Save 'em instead for someone who's as hard as nails, someone who can take it and dish it out in equal measure. I'm thinking maybe Condoleeza Rice...but you'd have to alter the wording a little for her.

Well, or maybe Dick Cheney. Dick can take it.