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JohnInKansas 11 Apr 08 - 02:32 PM
Wesley S 11 Apr 08 - 03:01 PM
Rapparee 11 Apr 08 - 03:04 PM
Wesley S 11 Apr 08 - 03:18 PM
Liz the Squeak 11 Apr 08 - 06:41 PM
Peace 11 Apr 08 - 06:50 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 11 Apr 08 - 07:38 PM
Liz the Squeak 12 Apr 08 - 03:27 AM
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Subject: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 02:32 PM

I've cut out some of the details in the original article, but – apologies extended – it's still a rather long post.

government plans to move foot and mouth disease lab

By LARRY MARGASAK
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
updated 8:55 a.m. CT, Fri., April. 11, 2008

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is likely to move its research on one of the most contagious animal diseases from an isolated island laboratory to the U.S. mainland near herds of livestock, raising concerns about a catastrophic outbreak.

Skeptical Democrats in Congress are demanding to see internal documents they believe highlight the risks and consequences of the decision. An epidemic of the disease, foot and mouth, which only affects animals, could devastate the livestock industry.

One such government report, produced last year and already turned over to lawmakers by the Homeland Security Department, combined commercial satellite images and federal farm data to show the proximity to livestock herds of locations that have been considered for the new lab. "Would an accidental laboratory release at these locations have the potential to affect nearby livestock?" asked the nine-page document. It did not directly answer the question.

… Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan. … Roberts supports moving the government's new lab to his state. Manhattan, Kan., … one of five mainland locations under consideration. "It will mean jobs" and spur research and development, he says.

Safety rules sufficient?
The other possible locations for the new National Bio-and Agro-Defense Facility are Athens, Ga.; Butner, N.C.; San Antonio; and Flora, Miss. The new site could be selected later this year, and the lab would open by 2014. The numbers of livestock in the counties and surrounding areas of the finalists range from 542,507 in Kansas to 132,900 in Georgia, according to the Homeland Security study.

Foot-and-mouth virus can be carried on a worker's breath or clothes, or vehicles leaving a lab, and is so contagious it has been confined to Plum Island, N.Y., for more than a half-century _ far from commercial livestock. The existing lab is 100 miles northeast of New York City in the Long Island Sound, accessible only by ferry or helicopter. Researchers there who work with the live virus are not permitted to own animals at home that would be susceptible, and they must wait at least a week before attending outside events where such animals might perform, such as a circus.

The White House says modern safety rules at labs are sufficient to avoid any outbreak.1 But incidents in Britain have demonstrated that the foot-and-mouth virus can cause remarkable economic havoc — and that the virus can escape from a facility.

An epidemic in 2001 devastated Britain's livestock industry, as the government slaughtered 6 million sheep, cows and pigs. Last year, in a less serious outbreak, Britain's health and safety agency concluded the virus probably escaped from a site shared by a government research center and a vaccine maker. Other outbreaks have occurred in Taiwan in 1997 and China last year and in 2006.

If even a single cow signals an outbreak in the U.S., emergency plans permit the government to shut down all exports and movement of livestock. Herds would be quarantined, and a controlled slaughter could be started to stop the disease from spreading.

The former head of the U.S. Agriculture Department's Agricultural Research Service said Americans are not prepared for a foot-and-mouth outbreak that has been avoided on the mainland since 1929.

"The horrific prospect of exterminating potentially millions of animals is not something this country's ready for," said Dr. Floyd Horn.

The Agriculture Department ran the Plum Island lab until 2003. It was turned over to the Homeland Security Department2 because preventing an outbreak is now part of the nation's biological defense program.


1 Shut off the dams, it won't hurt the salmon: Dick Cheney, 2003.
  No commercial salmon fishing this year: California and Oregon, 2007.

2 Probably the US Federal agency with the absolute best record of knowing what they're doing … … … ?????

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 03:01 PM

I'm all for jobs. But in this case I think the jobs should stay on Plum Island. There's no good reason to move.


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 03:04 PM

Idiocy. Pure idiocy. Politics and not science.


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 03:18 PM

Try telling those cities that having that lab relocate to their town is a good thing. Good luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 06:41 PM

Learn from the mistakes made in the UK last year... a lab situated near farms and towns managed to "let" F&M disease escape the lab.... Wide scale panic from the farming community and absolutely nothing they could do to stop it - proved by it happening again a month later.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 06:50 PM

I saw the thread title and thought GWB and Cheney had been impeached.


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 07:38 PM

Well, we could take over another Pacific Island, like we did Bikini-
but the object is not only to replace an old, inefficient facility, but to put it where the scientific know-how is and people are willing to come and work and have the facilities needed for their families.

Not an easy one to handle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Apr 08 - 03:27 AM

Build it and they will come!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Apr 08 - 11:33 AM

How about putting it in Crawford, Texas?


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Subject: RE: BS: Homeland Security Disease Control?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Apr 08 - 12:30 PM

NEAT IDEA, Rapaire.


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