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Lyr Req: Sherman Valley (Bascom L. Lunsford)

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FORTY BELOW
RED RIVER VALLEY
RED RIVER VALLEY (2)
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Roberto 24 May 08 - 04:06 PM
Joe Offer 24 May 08 - 03:43 PM
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Roberto 24 May 08 - 02:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bascom L. Lunsfords' Sherman Valley
From: Roberto
Date: 24 May 08 - 04:06 PM

That's it, thank you very much Joe. R


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bascom L. Lunsfords' Sherman Valley
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 08 - 03:43 PM

Aha!!!

Volume V, pages 186-187 of The Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore has this excerpt:

    #260G
      "Red River Valley" Sung by Bascom Lamar Lunsford, of Turkey Creek, Buncombe County, probably in 1921. This is a second version by this singer. The text, however, is based on the second stanza of the A version. The recording is very poor and breaks up at the end of the stanza. The singer, upon inquiry, informed this editor that the chorus uses the same tune.

    When you're far, far away from this valley -
    And you're thinking of loved ones at home,
    Remember that you left one behind you -
    That will love you wherever you'll roam.

    #260A
      "Laurel Valley" Sung by Bascom Lamar Lunsford, of Turkey Creek, Buncombe County, probably in 1921. Another title given by the singer: "Sherman Valley." For additional text cf. MAFLS XXIX 74-5

    3. I have waited a long time, my darling,
    For the word you never would say,
    But alas, my poor heart it is breaking,
    For they say you are going away.
    Then consider a while ere you leave me,
    Do not hasten to bid me adieu,
    But remember the bright Laurel Valley-
    And the girl who has loved you so true.


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Subject: ADD Version: Bright Sherman Valley
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 08 - 03:20 PM

Here's another version, much closer to "Red River Valley."

THE BRIGHT SHERMAN VALLEY

From this valley they tell me you're leaving;
I will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile,
For you take with you all of the sunshine
That has lightened my path for awhile.
Do you think of the home you are leaving,
Of the parents so kind and so true?
Do you think of the fond heart you're breaking,
Of the girl who has loved you so true?

CHORUS
Just consider a while ere you leave me;
Do not hasten to bid me adieu;
Just remember the bright Sherman valley
And the girl who has loved you so true.

For a long time I've waited, my darling,
For the sweet words you never would say,
And at last my fond heart now is breaking,
For they tell me you're going away.
When you go from the scenes of this valley,
And they tell me your journey is through,
Just remember the bright Sherman valley
And the girl who has loved you so true.
(Chorus)


Notes:
    THE BRIGHT SHERMAN VALLEY
    No folk song has been more widely sung by all types of Americans than "Red River Valley"; no other has been claimed by so many regions. Residents of the valley of the Red River of the North call it their own. Residents of the Red River Valley of the South are just as certain it is a song about their river. Many Texans have told me it was "made up" at Sherman, Texas.
    The truth is that the song was originally written about the Mohawk Valley of New York and called "In the Bright Mohawk Valley." It was composed and published as sheet music in the middle of the nineteenth century, and thus has been in oral circulation about a hundred years. Though the title has changed, both words and music have, strangely enough, remained remarkably faithful to the original.
    In my early associations this was a "lonesome song." Negroes on chain gangs, in the bottomland cotton fields —or wherever they were set to work— sang it in a slow soft murmur as they labored. Whites sang it too, picking out the tune when they could on guitar or banjo. It formed a background for our lives and work even more realistically than it did for the Joads in the motion picture version of The Grapes of Wrath.

Source: Texas Folk Songs (William A. Owens, 1950), pp. 190-192


This thread (click) has other versions of "Sherman Valley" - but none has the part that's giving you trouble, Roberto.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bascom L. Lunsfords' Sherman Valley
From: Roberto
Date: 24 May 08 - 02:36 PM

Thank you very much, Joe. R


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bascom L. Lunsfords' Sherman Valley
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 08 - 02:34 PM

There's a recording of "Bright Sherman Valley" by Doctor Lloyd And Howard Maxey here (click).
I gather that the song is the basis for "Red River Valley" - or vice versa.
-Joe-


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Subject: Lyr Req: Bascom L. Lunsfords' Sherman Valley
From: Roberto
Date: 24 May 08 - 01:10 PM

Red River Valley (Sherman Valley)
Bascom Lamar Lunsford
(from the CD anthology MOUNTAIN FROLIC - OLD TIMEY CLASSSICS 1925-30)

I can't get a couple of words in the last stanza, where I've put question marks, there is also a little jump of the disc. Please, someone who has this recording to check it. Thanks. R

I've been waiting a long time my darling
For those words you never would say
And alas, my poor heart it is breaking
For they say you are going away

Then consider a while ere you leave me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the bright Sherman Valley
And the girl who has loved you so true

When you're far, far away from this valley
I will miss your bright eyes and bright smile
You will take away all the sunshine
That has brightend my path for a while

Then consider a while ere you leave me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the bright Sherman Valley
And the girl who has loved you so true

When you're far, far away from this valley
And think ..???????..(of your dear ones)??? at home
Remember that you left one behind you
That will love you wherever you roam

Then consider a while ere you leave me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the bright Sherman Valley
And the girl who has loved you so true


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