BS: Solstice Greetings

Subject: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:00 AM

Joy, Health, Love, Peace and Blessings to all at the time of the Solstice.

So mote it be.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Paul Burke
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:06 AM

Downhill from now on. JHLP to all of you today and the rest of the year too. I've never worked out what "bless" means.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:29 AM

Only 6 months til Christmas!!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 06:54 AM

And same to you Bryn.

Liz...you always look on the bright side *G*

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 07:03 AM

Now according to Wiki it is today not the 21st, mind you - for the sake of one minute!, must be all those leap seconds we have missed.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: billybob
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 07:32 AM

It is my birthday on June 21st, my mother says it was the longest day!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 07:39 AM

Rudyard Kipling - A Tree Song (Oak, Ash & Thorn)

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 09:44 AM

Happy Day!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: lady penelope
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 10:35 AM

Cool bit of Kipling there. I wonder if anyone's stuck a tune to it?

Wotcha!

Merry Solstice...tide!

What I can never figure out is that May is supposed to still be spring but we hit MidSummer's Day not even a month later....!?!?!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 11:01 AM

Ah, yes...Peter Bellamy put a lovely tune to "Oak & Ash & Thorn"

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Def Shepard
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 11:14 AM

Joy, Health, Love and Peace, be all here in this place.....

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: lady penelope
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 12:38 PM

But of course Bill D. I wish I could get hold of the albums (in a format I can play!!)

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 12:44 PM

Merry Solstice!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Marilyn
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 12:57 PM

Lady Penelope said: "What I can never figure out is that May is supposed to still be spring but we hit MidSummer's Day not even a month later....!?!?! "

That has bothered me for nearly 60 years and the grown-ups never give a proper answer!!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 06:32 PM

Here's MY Merry Solstice: Click!!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: skarpi
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 06:53 PM

hear hear , hohoho merry chri.......... I mean solstice :>)

ATB Skarpi

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: topical tom
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 08:22 PM

MERRY SOLSTICE, EVERYONE!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 08:53 PM

Man, it's been a long day...

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 10:50 PM

Lady Penelope...can you play YouTube videos?

here's a version

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 10:56 PM

It can, I'm sure, be obtained from Folk Legacy...as a tape or perhaps a CD. Or Dick Greenhaus at CAMSCO will have it.

John Roberts and Tony Barrand...Dark Ships in the Forest, Folk Legacy FSI65

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 03:02 AM

Shame on you Lady P... were you not at Hastings when the Spirit of Summer, the Jack in the Green was released?

Part of the problem is that the calendar does not exactly match up with the lunar phases.

If we start the calendar year on Monday January 1st, week 26 (half of 52) begins 25th June, more or less Midsummer. If the Spring Equinox is around March 22nd, that falls in week 16. The Autumnal Equinox is around September 21st, or week 38.

Therefore, if Summer begins on May 1st, there are about 8 weeks til midsummer. Taking that as the central point, summer ends about 8 weeks later in the middle of August.

Midwinter's day, Dec 21st is in the calendar as week 51, 13 weeks after the Autumnal Equinox. Add 13 weeks to that and you come around to the beginning of March. Therefore, Spring is actually 3 weeks at the beginning of March and Autumn is the 4 weeks between the middle of August and the Autumnal Equinox...

See, it's easy!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 08:40 AM

bobert you had a long day ?? there is no night here so its still daytime

so I sleep very well thank you , went up early this morning to
have some 30 km bike ride tomorrow 50 km .

so we dont say good night here now . blink blink

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Cats
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 01:09 PM

Blessings all.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 08:39 AM

I will go and find-out the facts but the longest day, earliest sunrise and latest sunset are not the same as solstice. The longest day is midway betwwen the sunrise/sunset days. Solstice refers to the day and time we are nearest to the sun, given the Earth's tilt, but becuase it rotates the sunrise/sunset thing are about a week apart. Not sure what happens with longest day & soltice but given the criteria it is inevitable they are not automatically the same date.

I once visited the Rollright Stones just to see the sunrise on mid-summer's day (to prove I was a real Englishman according to the saying).
Problem was I did it on the longest day, Solstice was another day and anyway the revellers that always congregate had been there on the Saturday so they could sleep-off the hangover on the Sunday. And there was a mist so sunrise was indetermninate. Am I still a proper Englishman?

Go figure.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 09:06 AM

Looks like Wiki dates for the Solstice and the longest day shown on sunrise calculator follow. Maybe the year (1986) I go it right but the websites don't go far enough back to pin it down. This year the longest days wer 20 & 21st. Given the Solstice at almost midnight I would need a few decimal places in the seonds dept to separate them. Which I don't have.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 12:27 PM

I hope for your next season to be full of whatever weather, health and luck you desire. Stat well, stay sane!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 12:55 PM

Too soon too soon but niice.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 02:11 PM

Solstice is a point in time, not a day. This end, it's at 10.43 PM today. It may call for a dram of Ardbeg 10...

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 02:28 PM

By all means,
let us all rejoice to have endured
to see this solstice,

and let us all take good care
so that we are all here to rejoice in the next solstice.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 03:33 PM

Solstice is both the time at which the sun peaks/troughs, and the day on which it peaks/troughs. This is the longest/ shortest day of the year. Today is the summer or winter solstice. Have a happy one.
The pedants can worry about my verbing Trough.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 20 - 06:01 PM

Mrs Steve hates malt whisky but she bought me a bottle of Ardbeg Uigeadail for my birthday last week, the genius. I cannot say that it's the world's greatest malt because I haven't tasted every malt in the world, but, begod, it must be right up there. So we clinked glasses at precisely 10.43 PM, me with my malt and she with a glass of classy red. Shit, the nights are drawing in...

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 09:20 AM

I stayed up till 10:43 anyway but I suspect it was a bit different here in t'frozen North :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 12:03 PM

It isn't nitpicking to say that the solstice ("sun standing still") is a point in time some time during the longest/shortest day. It's a bit like a pendulum's instant of stasis at the extreme of its swing. Immeasurably brief, I should say.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jun 20 - 09:13 AM

Neither is it nitpicking, but rather incorrect, to say that it doesn't mean the longest or shortest day. It's like saying You is only a plural pronoun.

But I'm just in a bad mood. Why hasn't this thread been renamed just Solstice like my Happy Juneteenth one getting renamed just Juneteenth? Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb!

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 04:03 AM

It doesn't say if it's a Happy or Unhappy Solstice, it just sends greetings.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 10:36 AM

Get over it Mrrzy, that thread was restored to its trite recognition of the date on the calendar. The OP doesn't own the thread, but your constant whining certainly made an impression on everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 10:53 AM

My son has been in the Pacific Northwest for a few years now and has grown accustomed to the lovely long spring and summer evenings that we didn't have in Texas; I imagine he isn't so pleased with the really early dark afternoons of winter.

Subject: RE: BS: Solstice Greetings
From: JHW
Date: 27 Jun 20 - 06:49 AM

Forgot all about it. Thanks. Have been singing June songs (alone) while walking walks, noting many sheep sheared in best tradition of Rosebud in June.