BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?

Subject: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:06 AM

How about McCain's top National "Security" Advisor?

If he gets elected, Little John's gonna make Bush look like a peacenik.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: DougR
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 06:40 PM

The sky be falling again!
DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Amos
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 06:48 PM

It's not the sky, Doug; its the plummeting credibility of anyone with the (R) associated with their name. And I don't mean registered trademark!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:03 PM

If by the sky falling you mean its possible that another shoot first ask few questions President might be elected then yes it is.

McCain is already trying to get NATO sucked into supporting a petty little Napoleon who pick fights with Russia "peacekeepers", who also happens to pay the salary of this "top advisor". Imagine what he will do if given some real power.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:17 PM

1) McCain will never get elected.
2) Obama will.
3) Your sky IS about to fall, Doug.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:38 PM

I hope you are right Peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:40 PM

Trust me, Jack, so do I.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:49 PM

I am going to get Simon Weisenthal on this right away.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 07:50 PM

War is a racquet
or a big fing accident.

you're just not supposed to look behind the curtain.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 08:02 PM

Simon Wiesenthal is dead. The Centre is still going strong, however.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 12:04 AM

I don't think they are hunting for Neocons though.

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 10:25 AM

They are Neocons!

Subject: RE: BS: Looking For Neo-Cons?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 11:51 AM

We should never torture NEOCONS!
Nor should we hunt them down like Nazis.


How and why did America create SS style torture prisons and a near total disregard for the Constitution, the Geneva Convention and every other pillar of justice in the world?


Answer:

1 The Army traditionally conducted all interrogation in past wars but the Bush administration with its family history deeply entrenched in the CIA gave the interrogation job to the 'Company' and Titan Systems Inc. which was a war profiteering private interprise.

The model of torture they went shopping for turned out to be the North Korean style with the aid of former Korean torture experts.
This is a documented fact.



2 Character and integrity is the other factor. Both Bush and Cheney are fundamentally cowards evidenced by Bush's retreat on 9-11 and Cheney in mortal fear and terror, warping his life. By the way his undisclosed location is a new multi billion dollar bunker on the grounds of the Wash. DC Naval Observatory. Even Richard Pearle said he could not recognize Dick Cheney due to a dramatic psychological change in the man.
The cowardly fear that these men lived and breathed became mutually reinforcing. Their attempt to appear brave gave way to every base instinct that caused them to abandon the American values the world once lauded. They become as criminally savage as their lawyers claimed they could be and still remain free from prosecution. For these men, appearing powerful became more important than being powerful.



In 2001 I wrote that the first causualty of the invasion would be our becoming like our enemy, which is not only war itself but adopting the 'medevil' barbarity of Arab blood letting. You may know this idea of becoming like your enemy in war, is in the bible.

George and Dick became like the enemy and felt the same toward the American people who could see them to be arrogant foolinsh cowards that succeed in private war profiteering but little else.


They insulated themselves against the extreme criminal culpability of ordering torture with extreme legal advice and the old stand by strategy of using expendible low ranking Americans to take the fall.


Too bad they didn't listen to experience. The Isrealies know that torture does not work. What they have found is that money, power and sex are the best stimulus to get information from indiviuals.




A note to patriots who favored, sacrificed or profited from this WAR...

Respondsibility is considered an honored human value. If you voted for Bush even once, you are respondsible for the sensless torure and murder of men women and children. War is not a sport. In court these war crimes are punishable by death or life imprisonment.

What is your punishment?

I forsee that you will probably continue to lie to yourself for the rest of your days. If you do ever come around, your redemtion will have to come in the form of action and not words; action such as raising an Iraqi orphan or some other honorable life long good deed. Of course doing something honorable is its own reward for everyone.

If you chose to financially profit from this war, your punishment should be the likelyhood of personal tragedy, not because I hold to any ideas of revenge or unforgivness, but simply because you would then be guilty of premeditated murder for money. Afterall when you live by the sword*, it is said you will die from it.

George and Dick will carry their inner cowardice to the grave. Out of a psychological compensation they will continue to brag of their bravado and courage with a profound need to believe their own lies.


*(Rapaire sword sport excluded)


I learned that in the military trial of bin Laden's driver who was sentenced to time served and to be released in Dec.08, has been overturned by the President of the United States.
The prisoner is now ordered to remain in prison as a criminal combattent.
(Only a pardon by a future President could release him)

If that should be Obama, you can see what Karl Rove would make of that.