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BS: Why is this man being extradited ?

artbrooks 31 Aug 08 - 01:04 PM
olddude 31 Aug 08 - 01:03 PM
Megan L 31 Aug 08 - 12:52 PM
Peace 31 Aug 08 - 12:48 PM
Peace 31 Aug 08 - 12:38 PM
Peace 31 Aug 08 - 12:28 PM
John MacKenzie 31 Aug 08 - 12:21 PM
Peace 31 Aug 08 - 12:13 PM
Murray MacLeod 31 Aug 08 - 12:02 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: artbrooks
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 01:04 PM

"Terrible sentence"? Has he already been tried and convicted? If not, how could anyone say he faces the death penalty?   US law forbids the extradition of US citizens - why doesn't UK law do the same?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: olddude
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 01:03 PM

gosh I hate hackers, But when they have breached my servers in the past I blamed myself. I know better and I know the tricks.   He should be fined in England, or get his hands slapped, even go to jail . Not extradited here, it is over kill and a waste of tax payer dollars to drag it out. There are many classic ways to nail hackers, A server called a tar pit to grab and hold a connection, a trogan server deliberatly left open to nail a hacker. My guess he is cut into a trogan server that never had real data on it only misleading data. Most sensitive government networks are setup in such a manner. I don't believe he even go close to critical data but was a government server hence the crime. The millions it cost were millions to trace the entry point. Nothing was compromised IMO. But a waste of more taxpayer dollars ... no not for this. If he launched a virus ... damn right he should


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Megan L
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:52 PM

Then why not send him to prison here not tae some foreign country that is considering either the death penalty or sending him to gtmo


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Peace
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:48 PM

John, I do understand where you're coming from, and I suppose I agree a bit. But there also has to be a sense of proportion. There is no doubt in my mind that Bush and Cheney should be doing hard time for the deaths of so many kids, both soldiers and civilians. However, they got a pass on that. Yet some poor bugger looking for UFO information deserves the full and undivided attentions of the USA court and penal system? Hell, the bar has been set so low that I have difficulty seeing this as the crime of the decade. That honour is presently held by the White House, and it will continue to be until such time as thoose two are prosecuted for crimes against humanity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Peace
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:38 PM

Terrible sentence. However . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Peace
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:28 PM

So the US should make its defence secrets so easy to access? Perhaps Homeland Security should investigate the Defence Department and NASA. Sure as hell if he could do it then so could people who do not have the best interests of the US/Europe in mind have done so too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:21 PM

So he should be able to break the law with impunity or what?

JM


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Subject: RE: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Peace
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:13 PM

Ten to one they hire him to help protect their systems. Makes one feel all cuddly and warm to know that the nation's secrets are so securely handled. WTF!

And the folks in Europe NOT telling the US to get stuffed on this one lets ya know who doesn't have any cajones.


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Subject: BS: Why is this man being extradited ?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 12:02 PM

I don't frequent the BS section much so forgive me if this has already been discussed (I couldn't see any sign that it has been)

It makes me sick that the British Government don't have the balls to stand up for their citizens' rights, and are going to allow the extradition of this man to the US for an "offence" which I am sure most of us here would be only too delighted to have committed.

(And I speak as a dedicated Americanophile btw )

the GaryMcKinnon story

Officials at the Pentagon have egg on their faces and are seeking a scapegoat for their own incompetence imo


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