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What does Sarah Palin remind you of?

Donuel 14 Sep 08 - 05:04 PM
Little Hawk 14 Sep 08 - 05:57 PM
The Fooles Troupe 14 Sep 08 - 07:53 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 15 Sep 08 - 04:44 AM
John J 15 Sep 08 - 12:01 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 15 Sep 08 - 02:14 PM
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Riginslinger 15 Sep 08 - 09:50 PM
GUEST,Jack the Sailor 15 Sep 08 - 10:28 PM
Emma B 15 Sep 08 - 10:45 PM
Riginslinger 15 Sep 08 - 11:00 PM
Stilly River Sage 15 Sep 08 - 11:29 PM
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Amos 16 Sep 08 - 10:22 AM
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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 05:04 PM

editorial cartoons are often trollish, thats what makes them funny.

The trolls here are perfect parodies of themselves but only about half of them know it.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 05:57 PM

Most people thoroughly enjoy trolling...as long as they are the perpetrator of it, and not the recipient.

Then there are the really twisted ones. They enjoy it going either way.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 07:53 PM

From the thread list just now

What does Sarah Palin remind you of?         
BS: Mortimer country -North Herefordshire


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 04:44 AM

WORTH POSTING, AGAIN!!


From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 03:08 PM

Heh! This thread is a perfect example of what politics does to ordinary human beings. It's the Great Divider. It might even be termed the Great Destroyer.

WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE THEM, WHEN THEY HAVE US WALLOWING IN THEIR FILTH??? RISE HIGHER...Clean up our OWN filters, that obstruct information to be processed in our minds, without pre-conditioning and bias...get clear, see it how it is....and share the truth that binds us together. To that, the politicos are powerless!!


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: John J
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 12:01 PM

Although I'm in the U.K. where we're not exposed to quite as much of the presidential campaign as Americans, we do get our fill.

I'm not sure who she reminds me of - but she gives me the impression of being more blinkered than Margaret Thatcher and a lot more gobby. I find it very worrying that she is a potential leader of the 'free' world.

I wonder how she would cope with being interviewed by Jeremy Paxman or John Humphrys. It could be quite entertaining and very revealing. Those guys don't take prisoners!

JJ


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 02:14 PM

Little Hawk,
    While re-reading various posts, I re-read the one I just previously sent to you(or at least copied ans pasted....and in re-reading it, I saw that my response, may have been taken as an exhortation, and rebuttal. I assure you that it was meant as a supportive assertion, to whom ever may have ears...wink


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 02:48 PM

Yeah, I got that.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer, etc.)
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

"I find it very worrying that she is a potential leader of the 'free' world."

I have to agree with John J. This is not a bleedin' game, folks. There are some real issues at stake.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 03:21 PM

Just one word only.

EVITA !

(Don't cry for me America!)

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 09:50 PM

The good news is, she's only running for vice-president. On the other ticket, with about the same level of experience, Obama is actually running for president.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 10:28 PM

Riginslinger, you have to hold the record for the most posts making the same tired point.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Emma B
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 10:45 PM

Just how far are folks willing to go to smear Sarah Palin?
read on

Randi Rhodes seems determined to sink to new depths.

'She's the woman who shows up at the kid's birthday party and starts opining about everything from politics to lawn care. This is the woman that knows it all. Will shout you down, will get revenge on you. That's who she is.

She's friends with all the teenage boys. You have to say no when your kids say, 'can we sleep over at the Palin's? No! NO!' '

'Sarah Palin Likes To Sleep With Teenage Boys' - you tube

Mind you she seems 'even handed' ......

She made derogatory references to U.S. Senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and former Congresswoman and Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro, specifically calling both "Fucking Whores"


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 11:00 PM

"Riginslinger, you have to hold the record for the most posts making the same tired point."


                   It needs to be driven home!


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 11:29 PM

Ah ha!


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 09:37 AM

From: Emma B
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 10:45 PM

"She made derogatory references to U.S. Senator and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and former Congresswoman and Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro, specifically calling both "Fucking Whores"........So???...what's the argument or untruth there????

From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 10:28 PM
Riginslinger, you have to hold the record for the most posts making the same tired point. ....Hey Jack, You may hold the record for having to repeat things to, because of a certain denseness.......


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 10:15 AM

Funny, Stilly, very funny!


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 10:22 AM

An Arctic blast of action has swept into the 2008 race, making thinking passé. We don't really need to hurt our brains studying the world; we just need the world to know we're capable of bringing a world of hurt to the world if the world continues to be hell-bent on misbehaving.

Two weeks after being thrown onto a national ticket, and moments after being speed-briefed by McCain foreign-policy advisers, our new Napoleon in bunny boots (not the Pamela Anderson kind, but the knock-offs of the U.S. Army Extreme Cold Weather Vapor Barrier Boots) is ready to face down the Russkies and start a land war over Georgia, and, holy cow, what business is it of ours if Israel attacks Iran?

The trigger-happy John McCain has indeed found a soul mate. Trigger squared. In Fairbanks on Thursday, at a deployment ceremony for her son who is going to Iraq, Governor Palin followed the lead of McCain and W. in fusing Osama bin Laden's diabolical work on 9/11 and the mission in Iraq. She told the departing troops, "You'll be there to defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans."

Asked by Charlie Gibson what insight into Russian actions her Alaskan proximity gave her, Sarah blithely replied: "They're our next-door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."
...
(Maureen Dowd, NYT)


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 10:47 AM

Rig, that was me, not Stilly


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 11:57 AM

The thing is, why the Barrage O' Blah-Blah's supporters, are so adamant, is because they are coasting on, and feeding their enthusiasm on mere hope, hope in his words. Hope that what he is 'saying' might give them more hope. Unfortunately, these people will wear themselves out, hoping on something based on just words, with absolutely no track record. 'Words'?..yes, 'words'. I used to believe in 'words'. Even by his own admission, from his 'memoirs' (his book), he said that after his 'community organizer days, he went back to Kenya, for a while, returned to Chicago, and found all his efforts were a failure!!! Read it yourself!...So, dear friends of O-bowel-ma, what is all the excitement about?? Free heath care, with a tax on it so high, that you'll need it, after working your ass off, just to pay for it??? I'd rather have a focus on cleaning up the insurance/medical corruption to make heath care more affordable to those who need it, wouldn't you?..instead of having the government, WITH ALL ITS KNOWN EFFICIENCY, running one more thing!!!!!(And you want to trust your health to a government run program?????)


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 12:16 PM

What the h***! I like Medicare.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:27 PM

"What the h***! I like Medicare.".........yeah, I guess it doesn't get any better than that, does it????


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 01:35 PM

GfS:

Keep a civil tongue, and be not a shrew. Mister Obama has done nothing to merit your random acts of antagonism whether you like his policiey proposals or not.

IS it your assumption that the un-affordability of health care at present is attributable to waste and corruption, primarily? If so, what do you base this assessment on?

I suppose I coudl also ask what these has to do with Palin-drone the Magnificent Spear Carrier, but why waste mt breath?


A


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:15 PM

"Keep a civil tongue, and be not a shrew. Mister Obama has done nothing to merit your random acts of antagonism whether you like his policiey proposals or not.
"


Amos,

Perhaps you would like to be honest enough to admit you have failed in this yourself ( re Palin and McCain) and provide the slack you have demanded of us for yourself?


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:39 PM

Be fair Bruce, Amos's posts aren't full of silly name calling. They're pretty literate. Sanity Claus brings the tone of the place down - its like a fourteen year old has got hold of the computer.

OhBlahblah and Ohbowelma.

I still think the woman looks and sounds a bit strange. I wouldn't put her in charge of a whelk stall. Anyway - you'll only have yourselves to blame if the wicked witch of the north gets elected.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:41 PM

My point, GtS, if you fail to grasp it, is that Medicare is a socialized form of health care and it works quite well.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:43 PM

"the wicked witch of the north "

Boy, are YOU illiterate!

Glinda was the witch of the North, and a Good Witch.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:48 PM

Nowhere near, Bruce. The quality of horseshit I put out is refined, free from extraneous inclusions, grain-fed and contentedly pastured. Hers is lumpy with exaggeration, green with bile, falls loosely on the ground in unpleasant disarray, and is accompanied by greate and unpleasing wyndes.


A


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM

OK, I blew it:

mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.


Baum's 1900 children's novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz refers to Glinda as the Good Witch of the South. Later books call her a "sorceress" rather than a "witch".[1] Baum's writings make clear that he did not view witches as inherently wicked or in league with the Devil, so this change was probably meant[original research?] to signal that Glinda was even more powerful than a witch.

Another explanation may be that he decided to avoid the negative connotations of "witch"; in Queen Zixi of Ix, he had made Zixi a witch, for which she is shunned by fairies.[2] Again, at the end of The Marvelous Land of Oz, Glinda distinguishes between "respectable sorceresses" who do not perform shapeshifting magic because it is not honest, and "unscrupulous witches" such as Mombi who will do it; this is why Mombi, rather than Glinda, turns Tip back into the form of Ozma.[3]

Glinda is usually described as the most powerful magician in Oz. In The Patchwork Girl of Oz, neither Ozma nor the Wizard can break a spell, but later it is revealed that Glinda can do so.[4] In The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the Soldier with the Green Whiskers describes Glinda as "the most powerful of all the Witches".

In the books, Glinda is depicted as a beautiful young woman with rich red hair and blue eyes, wearing a pure white dress. However, it is suggested that she is actually much older than her appearance would suggest, and uses magic to maintain a youthful exteriour (a trait which she shares with Zixi, the witch-queen of the Kingdom of Ix). This fact is first alluded to in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, when the Soldier with the Green Whiskers mentions that Glinda "knows how to keep young in spite of the many years she has lived". In a later book, Glinda herself states that she has ruled the Quadling Country ever since she overthrew the Wicked Witch of the South during the period when Ozma's grandfather was king of Oz, a statement which provides further support for this theory.
......................................................

I was fooled by the movie version.


"In the original novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the Good Witch of the North is an elderly sorceress from Gillikin Country who is summoned to Munchkin Country when Dorothy Gale's falling house kills the Wicked Witch of the East. She arrives at the site of the Wicked Witch's death with three Munckins, and alone of the party is brave enough to speak to Dorothy, who, having killed the Witch of the East, is believed to be a powerful sorceress. She welcomes Dorothy to the land of the Munchkins, points out the body of the dead Witch and then introduces herself as the Witch of the North. Having been told that all witches are evil, Dorothy is initially frightened of her, but she assures the girl that she is a good witch who is loved by her people. She also mentions that she is not as powerful as the Witch of the East had been, or she would have liberated the Munchkins from slavery herself. Using a magic slate formed from her hat, she advises Dorothy to travel to the Emerald City to seek the aid of The Wizard in returning to Kansas. She kisses Dorothy on the forehead, so as to protect her from harm on the journey, because "no one will dare injure a person who has been kissed by the Witch of the North". This statement is proven to be correct later in the book, when the sight of the shining mark left by the kiss prevents Dorothy from being harmed by the Winged Monkeys or the Wicked Witch of the West. The sight of this mark is also one of the factors which convinces the Wizard to admit Dorothy to his presence.

At the beginning of The Marvelous Land of Oz, it is revealed that the Good Witch of the North had banned the practice of magic by any other witch in Gilliken Country. In Baum's fifth Oz book, The Road to Oz, the Witch of the North is one of the many guests who attend Ozma's birthday party.

The name of the Good Witch of the North in Baum's own stage version of The Wizard of Oz is Locasta. However, in Ruth Plumly Thompson's Oz novel The Giant Horse of Oz, the Witch is named Tattypoo."

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But I stand on the fact that the Witch of the North was a Good Witch.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:51 PM

"In the classic 1939 movie The Wizard of Oz, the Good Witch of the North is called Glinda, which is the name of the Good Witch of the South in the Oz novels. In the movie, the Good Witch of the North, portrayed by Billie Burke, is relatively young and beautiful, but also a bit scatterbrained, and in addition to meeting Dorothy on her arrival in Oz, she also supervises her progress on her journey to the Wizard and helps her find her way back to Kansas at the end of the story. The movie makes no reference to the Good Witch of the South.

The two witches were combined for the sake of the film to save time. This was often done in many movie versions - combining the elements of two popular book characters to shorten lengthy novels."


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:55 PM

It was a figure of speech, not a literary allusion.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:56 PM

Thanks for the information, bb. lol


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:11 PM

All I was saying is, that I have had both in my life, and 'Medi-care' was vastly inferior.....perhaps it was the best you've had...and you don't think it could be better.....even if the bill for implementing such a program would cause us(the public to be extremely over taxed, broke, and die or get sick trying to make ends meet...no matter how long and hard we worked!..Being as the government is so corrupt anyway, I don't think any 'efficiency' is going to be wasted on us!! As I pointed out, to clean up the medical PROFESSION' and the link to the Insurance INDUSTRY, would very adequately provide better health care for affordable prices. For instance, if you went to a private medical provider, and before your visit, tell them you are going to pay cash, and want to get a break, for it, you will find they usually knock off about 1/3 price off...did you know that??   Try it. Also the insurance INDUSTRY has a pricing schedule for certain services, ..way higher than really necessary( this is done to compete, with what medical firm accepts who's insurance program......thanks for you kind consideration..


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:14 PM

GfS, when I didn't have health insurance, the only way I could get care was to pay cash, and they charged me a higher rate than if I had insurance. There was NO discount in my experience.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:18 PM

I don't suppose anyone here knows that the Wizard of Oz was a parody about the Economic Foibles of the early 20th century.
Much had to do with he gold standard. It was written as a childs book and you know the rest.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:18 PM

You are either a poor negotiator, or got a crappy doctor


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:20 PM

quick and dirty


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 07:57 PM

when you're ill, it isn't really the optimum time for being ready to negotiate. You just want treatment. ASAP. If possible in time to save your life.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 12:26 AM

"when you're ill, it isn't really the optimum time for being ready to negotiate. You just want treatment. ASAP. If possible in time to save your life."

Well, true, depending on how ill you are....but I have found that doctors, if you have a rapport with them, (not the receptionist, or a nurse), you can work something out.....if not, find one to whom you can, they're out there...besides, if you pay cash, it is now, and doesn't suck up the paperwork time, and time lag insurance companies pay the doctors at..which they(the doctors) claim is about 30%.

Besides that subject: Remember a little while back, I told you all, that the dollar was going to depreciate, just after the elections, no matter who won....well the AIG, Merrill Lynch, Leymann Bros., mess,and the 'Fed' bailing them out, well that's just the beginning...When the 'Fed' pumps 85 billion dollars into a private company, what happens when you just 'print up' more money???...it devalues the existing money...and more and more becomes federalized. Just what this idiot told you, in one of my 'drivels'(I think it was)...so....eat crow!

Your Loving Driveler,
Guest from Sanity


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 12:45 AM

From: Alice
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:14 PM

GfS, when I didn't have health insurance, the only way I could get care was to pay cash, and they charged me a higher rate than if I had insurance. There was NO discount in my experience

He must have seen you comin'! It cost them money and time, and have to wait longer for the insurance companies to fund him...etc etc(I have this on a different post, so read that one, so I don't have to explain it again....)


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 12:56 AM

"All I was saying is, that I have had both in my life, and 'Medi-care' was vastly inferior....."GtS

Sounds to me like you are referring to Medicaid. I have no experience with Medicaid.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 01:08 AM

From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 12:56 AM

"All I was saying is, that I have had both in my life, and 'Medi-care' was vastly inferior....."GtS

Sounds to me like you are referring to Medicaid. I have no experience with Medicaid.

Hmmm, Have to check.....but All I know, is that whatever swiched, I was treated far better, on the private.(btw, I was in one time under private insurance, from another party, and I was treated VERY thoroughly!!) Other times, the doc was perfectly easy to talk with.
P.S. weather still holding out up there?..or is it cooling off a bit?


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 07:08 AM

what you sayabout inflation and printing money - of course is not drivel.

however theres such thing as priming the pump. In England we had a leader in mrs. thatcher who wouldn't prime the pump - if she didn't like the cut of your jib - weren't her sort of people. there was money for any number of daft right wing 'initiatives' - but anybody with dirty fingernails was personna non grata.

it cost us nearly all our manufacturing and heavy industry. In the short term the social problems that came in its wake were devastating- we had never had beggars on the street before, or a major hard drugs problem, or really much in the way of organised crime before that.

Now we've got the lot. Plus the chickens are starting to come home to roost. So far we have been lucky. People come to England and see it is a nice place to live. And the value of our houses has provided a lot of collateral that has kept the country afloat - albeit in debt.

We are about to discover the penalty for stopping producing items of worth to our fellow inhabitants of the globe.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 07:40 AM

The mean cheerleaders who run every high school in the nation.

--WW


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 08:33 AM

"In England we had a leader in mrs. thatcher who wouldn't prime the pump..."

                   Yes, we had a buffoon named Ronald Reagan at the same time. It was a sad period for honest people.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:33 AM

Sarah had a 10 point swing downwards in her favor/disfavor polls this week.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Amos
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:40 AM

R. D. Levno, a retired school principal, flew in from Fairbanks. "She's a child, inexperienced and simplistic," she said of Sarah. "It's taking us back to junior high school. She's one of the popular girls, but one of the mean girls. She is seductive, but she is invented."

(From Maureen Dowd's column today)


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 01:07 PM

From: weelittledrummer
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 07:08 AM
what you sayabout inflation and printing money - of course is not drivel.
however theres such thing as priming the pump.

I guess the problem is, there's more water priming the pump, than the pump is pumping.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Alice
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:34 PM

I put this on the McCain choice thread, but it looks like no one is reading that one any more.

For her former mentor who got her started in Wasilla politics, Palin was not what he and the other Republicans thought she would be.
Here is what he had to say about her irresponsible spending as mayor:

By David Talbot

Sep. 17, 2008 | Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin's tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.

"Executive abilities? She doesn't have any," said former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, who selected and groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her after her election to the City Council.

Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office -- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization.

"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal, because Sarah had not received the council's approval."

According to Carney, Palin's office makeover included flocked, red wallpaper. "It looked like a bordello."

Although Carney says he no longer has documentation of the expenditures, in his recollection Palin paid for the office face-lift with money from a city highway fund that was used to plow snow, grade roads and fill potholes -- essential municipal services, particularly in weather-battered Alaska.

Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was shocked by her response.

"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'"

"I'll never forget it -- it's one of the few times in my life I've been speechless," Carney added. "It would have been easier for her to finesse it. She had the votes on the council by then, she controlled it. But she just pushed forward. That's Sarah. She just has no respect for rules and regulations."

the rest of the article can be read HERE
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/print.html


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM

The idea that one can afford medical care if one learns how to negotiate is a fiction. It's possible that one might be able to afford a visit to their doctor's office if they negotiate with him or her, but hospital stays and most medical procedures and treatments are out reach for anyone who isn't fairly well off.

And people who don't have health insurance are forgoing preventative medical care because they can't afford it. They can't afford to treat their high blood pressure and their diabetes, either, because of the cost of the prescriptions and supplies. Pharmacies don't negotiate prices.


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Subject: RE: What does Sarah Palin remind you of?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

One can afford health care if one gets a job with government. Sarah Palin realized that and is applying for the job.


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